ZetaTalk: Aftertime Living

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The Zetas talk about how there will be Government Collapse due to the Devastation and plans for a Carry-On

Government or Martial Law or a Bunker Government will be thwarted; what the future form of Government will be; why in the US a New MJ12 emerged and an Aftertime MJ12 will exist; that Live ZetaTalk will likely continue and even the Internet will be functional; and why ZetaTalk on Coast to Coast radio will be explosive. The Zetas talk about how worldwide there will be Devastated Cities with even the Machine Age halted; that stocks and paper money will be

Worthless Money, and how what are considered Precious Possessions will by necessity change and the Barter system

will rule. The Zetas talk about how offers of Safe Havens and Individual Preparations and Personal Decisions and

Rescue Expectations prevail going into the shift; how there will be Survivors despite the Death Rate; whether

Magnetic Pulse during the shift will affect humans; how to deal with Preexisting Health problems and Unhealthy

Environs; the composition of Survival Groups and if Group Policy can force cooperation, and why Small Groups are

best. The Zetas talk about how some humans are operating in Service to Others already, Guided in this, a Mainstay for

Others; how mankind will change for the better After the Cataclysms and there will be Great Opportunities; how the orientations differ in dealing with the pending Pole Shift and the Aftertime; whether an Orientation Test can be given and how Actions are a guide; when Sharing Supplies is advised; how Anxieties will be reflected in Aftertime Religions

and if and how the game Survivor and being Self Sufficient are related. The Zetas talk about who will end up in High

Tech communities, their determining Characteristics, and the Sorting Out process; how Spontaneous Groups will form and Survivor Allegiance tested, and where the Elite Enclaves will be found; why many will be Led by Children after

the shift and find What the Heart Seeks and why contactee Coordination increasingly occurs; how communities will have help in Aftertime Raids from Prison Gangs; how many will even share Hybrid Homes and the Cataclysm Link to the hybrid program, and what the Time Frame is; why isolated Hybrid Colonies will develop and how Intermarriage

with humans the hybrids consider their Team Mates will eventually occur; and how aliens will Walk Openly among us in the Aftertime.

The Zetas talk about how Quake Swarms and Pre-Shift Quakes and Meteor Showers and Imploding Cities and

Exploding Factories will occur during the Months Before the shift and especially during the week Rotation Stops; how

Dark Side Clues that the shift is eminent and the Scripted Drama about to begin; the Hour After the shift and how

Rotation Returns within a day; how there will be a New Geography and a Sharper Axis and Climate Changes resulting

in a New Climate and fewer Deserts and how Some Countries will fare; how the Prevailing Winds will re-establish themselves and being Downwind from ash avoided; how a Return to Normalcy may take several decades and why

Exploding Toads relates; how there will be inundations due to Melting Ice Caps with Rising Seas; how long the rise in

Sea Level and Atmosphere Loss will last; how a Nuclear Winter will not occur but volcanic Gloom and Drizzle will

descent; how there will be renewal of Natural Resources and a Rebirth as the Seeds of Rebirth are in the wilderness refuges. The Zetas talk how Human Health will be impacted and many will be in Shock and there will be Rotting

Bodies and Starvation; how to address Social Services and deal with those who Beg to Die; how Starvation will be rampant and how to achieve the Best Nutrition; how the Seasons Shift and how to Forcast Seasons for your locale; when to Restart Gardens and that Crop Adjustments will be necessary; how Flocks and Herds will fare during the shift; how life will be on the rebound with oxygen from the Ocean Life and Inland Lakes will often prosper. The Zeta talk about why Generating Electricity or Storing Fuel will be difficult and hopes for New Sources futile, but for some a

Perpetual Power Pack will appear; how hopes for a return of Civilization will be different this time, but Short Wave

communication will prevail and Magnetic Pulse damage minimal. The Zetas talk about how not all water will be Safe

Water but Pollutants outside of Industrial Areas will have dissipated; that Ruined Worlds can undergo a Cleanup; how the eventual Earth Switch to 4th Density will occur and what will be Left Behind.

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ZetaTalk: Government Collapse

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ZetaTalk: Government Collapse

Note: written prior to July 15, 1995

Consider what constitutes the government of the United States, which we will use as an example, as it is indeed the

strongest government, and the first and foremost democracy. This government, by and for the people, is founded by

elections. Elections even in the best of times are difficult to pull off. Turnout is frequently low. Counts must be

checked and rechecked for accuracy, and computers and the ready hands of volunteers assist in this process. And then

there is the pre-election publication of candidates and their views, debates and other such enlightening affairs.

How would all this take place in a world having undergone a cataclysm such as we describe? The existence of

electricity will be spotty. Communications will in the main return to what it was in the previous century, by letter or carrier. The concept of legislature even at the county level would be difficult to maintain, much less at the state or

federal level. Add into this the fact that the geography will change. Some lands will disappear, others rise from the

seas. The poles will align in different parts of the world. What is north? What is south? Maps previously drawn up will be useless. How can the polls be sure who is to vote when the survivors will wander, in search more of others living

than anything else.

We are not describing a world where the established government is likely to continue as it was. We are describing a

world where new forms of governing will emerge. The type will depend on the nature of the group of people. As we

have detailed, there will be an increasing separation of Service-to-Other from Service-to-Self. Those groups oriented

to Service-to-Other will not require the same controls that are required today. Rather than the problem of citizens

stealing from each other, held in check only by the enforcement of law, these new communities will share.

Consideration will be the rule, rather than the rule of law. For those groups oriented increasingly to Service-to-Self, no laws or corps of police would hold the self-serving actions in check. There, the rule of law is supplanted by the rule of the strong.

How will the governments take being so supplanted? Will they attempt to collect taxes, order cooperation, or demand

allegiance? Some lone individuals will attempt to do so, perhaps in small bands, but where there is no food, and the

citizenry is essentially homeless, these attempts will turn about on the so-called representatives of the people. Where is the government assistance? What does the government anticipate doing for its citizenry? Why, when the government

was assuring the populace that they should not be alarmed by the approaching comet, should the populace now give

any heed to the so called government? Any attempt to continue federal or state level government will in all likelihood

be short lived. On the local level, there may be some continuance, according to the competence of the local

government. Leadership will have to be earned.

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ZetaTalk: Devastation

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ZetaTalk: Devastaton

Note: added during the Dec 14, 2002 Live ZetaTalk IRC Session.

Those fearing a takeover by the elite, military units used to commandeer control, need not fear. Bridges and rail lines will be broken, so trains or cars will not be moving about. Planes need runways to lift off, and runways to land, and if one is in place, the other will not be. Communications will be utterly disrupted, no satellites working, phone lines broken, and none but local communications possible. Fuel supplies will explode and burn, equipment break and be

unfixable, and personnel distracted or insane of absent. It is simply not going to be a mechanism that the elite can use, outside of their immediate area!

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ZetaTalk: Carry-On Goverment

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ZetaTalk: Carry-On Goverment

Note: written on Dec 15, 1997

Increasingly as the year 2003 approaches [Note: see 2003 Date explanation], there will be sculpting of reserves in the US for not only the military but also what is termed a carry-on government. Those whose lives have been in government

service cannot imagine life otherwise. As the population would be likely to swarm onto military bases, demanding to

be fed, those bases that will be set aside for a government recoup will be made undesirable to the public - the storage of biological warfare components, nuclear war-heads, or armaments likely to explode during massive earthquakes.

There is no way for the public to determine which report of storage of undesirables is true or untrue, and we are not

advising that this be done. In truth, all such locales, whether the story was true or not, will be undesirable.

Any survivors close to such a military depot or processing center for biological weapons disposal or nuclear weapons

reserves will find themselves equally distressed. If the stories are true, then they are living if living at all steeped in poison during the Aftertime. If the stories are not true, then they are living close to former government workers and

military who want to re-establish a government. The rationale is that the populace will be better off with this

governance, so they are doing a service. In truth, there is nothing such a tattered remnant of a federal government could do for the populace that they could not do better for themselves. Naturally, the first thing these former

government workers will be looking to do is impose taxes, and without a money base, this will be in the form of food

and supplies.

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ZetaTalk: Martial Law

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ZetaTalk: Martial Law

Note: written on Dec 15, 2001

Martial Law is a device that cuts both ways, so will not be used lightly by those in power, and only if they feel they

have no other recourse. The threat of Martial Law is tossed about a great deal, as it seems an obvious trend given the

nervousness of governments and the power they hold in wielding their military. But this conclusion assumes the status

quo to be continuing. In other words, adequate food for the troops, and stability elsewhere. Martial Law can be quickly wielded to quell a riot, or quarantine disease, and is accepted by the populace. In these cases, the troops consider that their own families are being protected by these acts, and go along with the orders. The riot is being prevented from spreading to family and friends, or at least the soldier comforts himself that should such a riot spring up in his

neighborhood, the same means of quelling it would be used.

What would the attitude of the soldier be, if starvation were rampant, news of this coming from home, and the soldier

asked to protect the rich and powerful from demands from the starving? The willingness of the soldier to go along with

this erodes, rapidly. Especially if it is apparent that the government, the elite, have not been open and honest about what is besetting mankind. Desertions would occur, erosion of the troops such that the generals soon find they have

left their posts, leaving the defenses vulnerable. The military knows this, discusses this, endlessly. They have great

history to examine. The common phrase that an army marches on its stomach is a clue. This is known. One cannot

fight an effective battle unless the troops are heartened, and feel that there is a general advantage to continuing. Only groups of thugs operate solely for themselves, and these are not what the military accepts in its ranks.

Martial Law will be utilized only as a last resort, often dropped as soon as possible thereafter, and we anticipate only in those countries where the rich strong-arm the poor today. In those countries, this will be no change from their status quo, in essence no Martial Law being enforced. Martial Law is in effect today in some countries, for instance China

and Indonesia, though they would not call it such. Human rights are nonexistent, and the government uses the military

to support itself. To the extent that governments use these techniques today, they will continue up into the time of the shift. To the extent that these techniques would be a new imposition, they will not, we predict, be deployed. This is, of course, in the hands of man, something we do not control, and therefore could change. Britain and Canada likewise are

exploring their limits. These also are countries with a strong history of human rights and law. Like the US, we expect

they will conclude that such measures are counter-productive. The repressive will get more so, the democratic or socialistic remain so, with the coming changes not addressed in the media.

Countries are striving, at this time, to do the least that will disturb their populace, already uneasy due to weather and crop changes and a world-wide depression not yet called that openly. Thus, they will not rock the boat, but will to the extent they can impose Martial Law techniques without fuss from the populace, do so. Thus, the US has the Bin Laden

crowd not on US soil, and are not calling them prisoner's of war, so they can torture them freely without challenge.

Even this has not passed without challenge, and they have taken note of this. Thus, Martial Law in the US is not

expected. We anticipate, rather than a Martial Law setup, that troops will be sent home just ahead of the shift, to be

with their families. In this way, they will be disbanded, less of a threat, and more likely to assist their families than run as gangs. We anticipate that the rich and powerful will go into enclaves, with immense stores of goods, with armed

guards often gathered from the military. These will not prove to be a good setting, however, and will become the worst

hell for those expecting to be protected and live well behind locked doors. Thus, Martial Law will become a reality

only for those rich enclaves, where the strongest and most ruthless will rule.

Note: below written during the Mar 29, 2003 Live ZetaTalk IRC Session.

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interested is prime, and the expectation that the troops would simply move to take over the Saudi fields after wining in Iraq. The troops are deemed an enforcement mechanism, thereafter, an occupation, despite empty words that they

would be resident only until democracy could be installed. These empty words are coming from an administration that

is busy removing liberty from its own people, as fast as the people will allow. There are many agendas among the elite, and where a plan can mesh several agendas, it gets faster approval. Thus, the invasion of Iraq, allowing reserves less aggressive to be the defenders of the homeland, suited more of the power mongering elite than not.

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ZetaTalk: Bunker Goverment

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ZetaTalk: Bunker Government

Note: written during the Feb 23, 2002 IRC Session, and added to during the Jul 13, 2002 IRC Session.

Underground bunkers where the US government expect to proceed as a carry-on government have long been in the

news. Mt. Weather was a shock and an expose when first discovered, as it was so well outfitted and financed that the

issues was more how such a facility could escape notice, not only physically but financially within the budget, rather than any other implication. Since its discovery, and exposure, Mt. Weather has not been the location of choice. This is, obviously, because it is well known, and in times of trouble the public would crowd the entry and lay there, dying and

stinking, complicating life at this facility. Instead, other facilities not exposed, and supposedly secret, have been

promoted. This includes, as is well know by their neighbors, a spot in Indiana, the prime location now. Near Kokomo,

Indiana, in the hills surrounding this small town, burrowing goes on as the shift approaches. Other facilities are know in the mountains of New Mexico, adjoining to facilities above ground in Utah and Colorado. Less well known are

facilities in Houston, which will be much under water but were placed there to satisfy the Bush family, who were not

into listening to our warnings about Earth changes and flooding. These in fact received the greater amount of funding,

and are stymied now as to what to do - move or stay and risk drowning? Facilities to house the elite are also fairly

well know, in North Carolina and Wyoming, prize locations of the ultra right.

In other countries, such as the Urals in Russia, there are known locations. Britain is planning to leave their island and head elsewhere, most likely Australia. This is little publicized, but the rules about immigration in Australia reflect this mindset. Canada has become a mass of public opinion the Brits do not welcome, and Australia has pockets of the ultra-right well in hand for many decades, which the Brits feel they can count upon. The Australian elite are planning,

surprisingly, on being inland, the very places where flooding will occur. They reason that they will be safest where least expected to be found, in deserts where little life except the peaceful aborigines exist. Thus, they are setting up, like the NASA elite in Houston, in the worst place, flooded for sure. However, we expect them to change these plans at the last minute, and thus they will be obvious as to where they are headed. Just follow the truck loads of supplies!

Africa, where expected to be above the waves, is considered a cesspool of infection, Ebola not the only issue of

concern. Muslim countries are expected to remain, the ruling class sitting tight, as they have no confidence in their

ability to move and still be on top of the pile.

Note: below written during the Sep 7, 2002 IRC Session.

In the past, the elite in the US planned to go underground in facilities such as Mt Weather. Mt. Weather, like

Greenbriar, got revealed and of course this ruined their ability to house the elite out of the reach of the maddening

mob. Many, many other facilties were constructed, as rumored, with the idea that the pole shift would ruin the

atmosphere but not cause extensive quakes and shifting of the crust. In those days, the CIA, who was dominant in MJ12 in the early years, listened to the Service-to-Self aliens who impressed them with technology, and talked their

language, frankly, one Service-to-Self group to another. The Service-to-Self aliens spoke of saving the few, the elite, and leaving the masses to their lot. This resonated with the CIA, who were composed at the start with recruits from the Nazi SS.

What the CIA did not understand was that these Service-to-Self aliens were not into truth telling, and cared not for the CIA one wit. The goal is to harvest Service-to-Self souls, and the more hardened the better, so despair and a sense of

being abandoned and abused were the emotions and setting they hoped to achieve. Thus, they lulled the CIA into

believing they would survive, even encouraging the Sr. Bush to institute underground facilities in Houston, which will

be under water well before the shift. During the past few years, while the truth of these Service-to-Self aliens vs the truth of ZetaTalk have emerged, some hysteria has emerged among the elite. The orginal underground facilities, which

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no longer suitable. Thus, at this time, all plans are up in the air, though any and all facilities may in fact be used by the desperate. They will be entombed, or drowned, or attacked by angry mobs gaining entry, and thus in the true light of

Karma get what they deserve.

Note: below added during the Dec 21, 2002 Live ZetaTalk IRC Session.

The US with their Mt Weather is not alone in their expectation that underground facilities would be the best bet in the event of a possible pole shift. Human scientists present, in their limited view, the nuclear winter scenario, where all life above ground would die. Humans tend to put a few facts into the mix, ignoring a massive amount of other facts,

and thus come up with wrong conclusions. This is done for several reasons,

1. the limited human IQ,

2. the desire to arrive at a conclusion and thus limiting the options,

3. limited human knowledge in the first place.

Thus, given the projection that a nuclear winter, caused by volcanic eruption, could and perhaps has in the past as in the case of the presumed dinosaur extinction, the elite planned to go underground and live several decades thus.

In fact, as we have stated and any thorough analysis of the facts will present, dinosaur extinction was not caused by a nuclear winter, as not all forms were so affected, thus it was species selective, not global. It was a virus, not a nuclear winter. But given that military personnel are not know for their deep thinking, are brusque and bossy, they grabbed at

the projections and plotted their course. Given the size of the quakes, Richter 9 force worldwide, with mountain

building and renting of continental rifts, these underground facilities will hardly be a safe place. It takes little to trap an outlet, torque an elevator such that it cannot rise or fall, and create panic in the tomb. Air circulation will not work, slowly smothering those trapped inside. Water will find its way into underground pockets, drowning those trapped.

Electrical equipment will falter, plunging those into darkness. A fitting end of the elite who have, in their greed for power and wealth, sent the poor into mines and such circumstances.

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ZetaTalk: Government

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ZetaTalk: Government

Note: written during the October 19, 2002 Live ZetaTalk IRC Session.

The Aftertime will find most of mankind in a dearth of government directives. Even small towns, governed by mayors

well known on the city streets to all, and traveling bands governed by chieftains, will feel the lack. Insanity, depression, loss of life and confusion will remove the firm hand so familiar from governing. Families will look to their elders, the family man, the religious leader, and find them all staring, shaking their heads, and unable to speak. In these situations, leadership arises from the needy, natural leaders emerging. Often they are children, to whom most of life is startling and strange, the unfamiliar presented almost daily. To the child, this is more an adventure, an opportunity to act

without constant parental admonitions. They will make suggestions, and be allowed to proceed, and often lead their

dazed and depressed parents and elders about like rag dolls.

Beyond the children, who will be inventive and energetic in the main, women will assume command by doing daily

chores. It is often said that men, who have single tasks in society, suffer when retiring, but women, who had the many

tasks keeping the household going, are without retirement. Thus, women see what to do with their time, and proceed, and being useful live longer and in greater health. In like manner, after the shift, women will wash and clean, gather

and cook a meal, and thus be looked upon as someone who can direct activities. When the depression clears, and

survivors begin looking about them, determining if they should seek out a government rep or make a report, perhaps

seek help from their government, a different conclusion will arise. Each initiating, others observing and offering to

help, and sharing, has taken place. This is the Service-to-Other society of your future, and once established by

survivor groups, should not be supplanted by ego driven directive by the power hungry. Tell them to sit back down and fall silent, as you did so much better before they found their tongue.

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ZetaTalk: New MJ12

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ZetaTalk: New MJ12

Note: written on Jan 15, 2001

The members of MJ12 who formed the new group have in almost all cases physically disappeared so that you could

not find them in the phone book or locate them. The government cannot hack at them. They don’t have relatives or

children so they cannot be harmed in that way. They are free agents. The new MJ12 group has determined an agenda

and course of action.

To prevent disinformation and misinformation from ruling.

Not that it cannot be spread, but it cannot prevail as the only message the people receive. They want

the public to receive the truth. They will arrange to have cover-ups exploded and leaks to occur and

countering information to come up from unusual sources.


To maintain the democratic ideal.

They do not want to see democracy completely bite the dust and martial law imposed so that people

become literally serfs of the wealthy or powerful at gunpoint of the military. This new group is not

restricted in the same way the old group of MJ12 was, in that the old MJ12 had rules. There was a

need-to-know basis between the various intel organizations and arms they utilized, the CIA and

FBI. In many cases these agencies had no idea they were doing an MJ12 service. So MJ12 had full

access to the government bureaucracy and agents, but they had many rules, such as not assassinating

somebody who was in the public eye. Therefore, someone in the public eye could get away with

maneuvers and thumb their nose, so to speak, at MJ12, knowing they were a public figure and

therefore could not be taken out. This group does not have such restrictions.


To retaliate against the initiator, not the agents.

They are carrying forward an earlier MJ12 routine, which was to attack the instigator of an action,

rather than any agent. In other words, if a high level executive of a corporation desired to have

something blown up or someone killed, when this was against MJ12’s rules, they would punish the

person setting off the bomb or person carrying the gun. These people would be stopped, but the

person to be retaliated against would be the person setting this in motion, in this case the executive,

who would be tortured in front of his compatriots or killed. This stopped a lot of nonsense in that

those who would create chaos tend to live in fear of having this come right back at them in their

front door, like a type of karma. So this new group is continuing this and going right to the top to

the person who has perpetrated the crime, rather than to punish the agents and it is remarkable how

effective this is.

This new group is very effective and has been functioning for some weeks at the time of this writing. The group has no

name. You can call it the new MJ12 if you wish, and if and when they decide on a name they will announce

themselves through ZetaTalk. In such a group as ours, a close-knit group, working effectively together, where there

are human telepaths who communicate with us as Nancy does, pretty effectively, names are not necessary.

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ZetaTalk: Aftertime MJ12

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ZetaTalk: Aftertime MJ12

Note: Written during Dec 8, 2001 Live ZetaTalk IRC session.

The new MJ12 will be the least devastated during the coming shift, in terms of communications capabilities and travel

and a safe and secure place to live. These individuals who formed the new MJ12 are with us, being to a one highly

Service-to-Other. They are living on the surface of Earth, in 3rd Density, with a group of Zetas who do likewise in

order to live with those humans who have teamed with us as a result of prior association with MJ12 and the necessity

of our being present, so to speak, at all times. Just where these living quarters are is not something we care to

announce. They are, to facilitate travel and pickup, of course wearing implants. None of these folks, nor we, have any

time to lose. Their travel is via the means offered to the old MJ12, with our space ships and the cloaking they can

effect, so they are invisible. Their agenda has changed little since we announced the formation of this group.

Their communications are highly telepathic, as there are a number of telepaths employed formerly by the old MJ12

among them. We boost this capability so this communication means by these humans is enhanced. The old MJ12 had

40 members on 2 boards, but no females. Due to the nature of the old MJ12, there are few females in the new MJ12.

But there are a few. This group is likely to grow, over time, after the shift, as conscious awareness of the alien

presence is all that qualifies for initiation. That, and a strongly Service-to-Other orientation, of course. The count today of the new MJ12 member is 57, but this in no way compares to the old MJ12 which had approximately 2,000 member,

of which President George W. Bush was one, and Cheney.

How will matters change for this group, who have left human society in the main, after the shift? They will find

humans more open to their message, having suffered the shift as ZetaTalk has predicted. They will be busy helping

Service-to-Other communities become aware of the wider world and universe, no small deed in that introduction to

alien lifeforms may indeed be made with the new MJ12 being ambassadors. They will be busy continuing their agenda, which is to block and frustrate Service-to-Self human groups from having their way on the new Earth. Thus, they will

be busier than ever, as will Nancy and some of her human acquaintances.

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ZetaTalk: Live ZetaTalk

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ZetaTalk: Live ZetaTalk

Note: written Feb 15, 2002

With all of ZetaTalk we jointly decide matters. Nancy suffers from various health problems, is not a young person,

works extraordinarily hard, and is carrying a huge workload. Thus, we must consider her needs [re the Live ZetaTalk

IRC Sessions]. As a team, we were also looking for a time when the world as a whole could participate. Nancy posted

suggestions, and this time was not objected to much, so is currently the time [for the sessions]. It is possible to have more, other times, but for now this seems to be sufficing. We are not allowed to warn of Earth changes other than the

broad message of the coming shift, for instance, in response to the Call. To alert that there is a likely quake due in this or that part of the world is considered interference, parenting, and not allowed. To step in and attempt a warning would send us packing! So, we hold our breath and say nothing.

As with all of ZetaTalk, teams are assembled based on the expected questions. We indeed know who will be attending,

who plans to ask what, and sense new questions arising before they are voiced. In that we are highly telepathic and can assemble a team in an instant, this is not problem to change the participant mixture. We have a broader range of

specialties than humans imagine, as we come from many different worlds, and have lived more lifetimes, in a more

technological society. We are multi-faceted, but as most humans have discovered, they can contribute more with some specializing. Are we physically present? No, we stay at our tasks, perhaps taking a break in part to participate.

Telepathic brain waves go long distances, are highly tuned as to frequency, and we are all participating as though

picking up a phone! Thus, we are ahead of you, at all times.

Will Live ZetaTalk continue after the shift? Where will Nancy be? Will she be connected via the Internet? Short wave,

as we have mentioned, is the best means of humans to contact one another. For those Service-to-Other communities that will setup with this means, inability to link due to a hilltop missing an antenna will not be a problem. They will find this network intact! Angels at work. We mentioned during a prior chat that Nancy has been invited to live with us, in hybrid communities. Those humans invited into these communities know who they are, and have either declined or

quietly accepted. This is not necessarily an easy life, as we bustle. There is not an idle moment, in spite of fatigue, and no quarter given to weakness such as the need for a good cry or a distraction. Thus, as hard as Nancy works, she can

expect to work harder, experience more grief, in her old age. The means of communication is being deliberately

withheld at this moment, for obvious reasons. The self centered, the power hungry, the elite desperate to continue their grip, are trying to position for the future. More as the hour of the shift approaches.

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ZetaTalk: Internet

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ZetaTalk: Internet

Note: written prior to July 15, 1995

The months before the cataclysms, satellite failure will be sporadic, but enough to impact technology as it support

lifestyles today. Land lines will be reliable, but cell phones will not. This will be most disconcerting to the power

brokers among the elite, who will find business floundering, stocks which have fallen almost to the ground unable to

be salvaged, and the reliance of the military on communications creating choas among those expected to protect the

elite. These groups will be screeching at each other, making shrill demands where no fix can be made. The little man,

the common man, will fare better, especially if they are using short wave technology. They will rely on this

increasingly, and it will be old hand and familiar by the time it is needed solely, for communication at a distance from the site.

Computer networks will remain in place following the cataclysms in accordance with their structure. Any electrical

appliance protected from damage will operate after the cataclysms as before, provided a source of electricity is

available. Networks are another matter, as there are many parts to the whole, and in the main any breakage will disable the whole - the weak link theory in action. Networks relying on wires run over the Earth cannot be expected to be

operational. Likewise, networks operating by satellite bounce will find themselves with a problem when the satellites

are torn from the skies. How then will computer networks operate? We would suggest that short wave radio networks

established by dish, not relying on satellites, may be a solution. From high point to high point on Earth, such a network could operate after the cataclysms. And where the pole shift will affect land lines, which will be torn, and satellite

bounce, as the satellites will be ripped from the skies - short wave radio communication bouncing off the Moon or the

ionosphere will survive.

Cloud cover does not much affect this short wave communication, today, so the murky atmosphere and low cloud

cover will not prevent short wave communication in the years following the pole shift either. The ionosphere will

reform, within weeks of the pole shift, as this is a factor or the component of the atmosphere. Like the separation of oil and water, which takes place after a bottle of salad dressing is violently shaken, the components find their level and re-establish their relationship afterwards. The ionosphere will be lower, however, due to an overall loss of atmosphere

which will only gradually be replaced, which will require using a different angle during communication to achieve a

bounce. Thus, radio operators should adjust to their changed circumstances after the pole shift as they would in any

changed circumstances today, using the same approach and choosing their techniques accordingly.

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ZetaTalk: Coast to Coast

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ZetaTalk: Coast to Coast

Note: added during the Nov 30, 2002 Live ZetaTalk IRC Session.

The Coast to Coast radio show, reaching on their estimate some 20 million listeners, has long been viewed as a way to spread disinformation and information by the establishment. During the Hale-Bopp episode, Art Bell could be counted upon to echo the establishment/NASA line, which he did, being none the wiser as to his role in spreading

disinformation. Likewise, he regularly had on Ed Dames, a former CIA agent, and Hazelwood, the son of a close

friend of Art's, also none the wiser that disinformation was or is being spread. To Art, or George for that matter, who are not personally privy to information sources nor themselves contactees, one wild line is the same as another, and the issue is keeping the audience rapt and coming back for more. But Art began to notice the relationship to earth changes

and prophecy, which was evident to the regular listener who caught him repeatedly bringing the subject up. Still, since quakes and weather and even Global Warming or periodic climate changes are cited by the establishment as within

normal swings, he did not buy into the Planet X and 2003 pole shift theory at all. George on the other hand is a more

logical individual, as Nancy noted during her interview. He laid the information out for the audience, in a logical

progression, as this is how his mind works! Thus, for himself personally and for the audience, they were arriving at the logical conclusions.

Both Art and George do not entirely chose their subject matter, nor their hosts. It should be no surprise for those working in large corporations, or major media, or working within clubs or associations, strings can and are pulled,

though this is denied. In a large corporation, a CEO may pronounce a decision as his alone, when in fact the phone

wires were burning with activity just prior to the announcement. In the major media, top executive and even major

stockholders hold the calling card, can squelch a planned documentary or suggest subject matter. All the while, the host is claiming these are matters solely in their hands. And likewise, something as simple as pillow talk, or a golfing buddy making a tangential request, can result in a change in agenda. Thus, both Art and George were asked to address

the Planet X issue, and George was asked to revisit this repeatedly as it is a hot internet item. The Coast to Coast

listenership is a gabby sort, which is why they burn the midnight oil listening to interesting gab. As a result, the

comments of the listeners get passed around a lot, and the grapevine being what it is, people at least are aware of our predictions, and the inbound planet being imaged. Thus, when this becomes the dominant obsession of all, due to

seeing it in the skies, they will recall having heard about it, and go research! Thus, it is expected to have reached 35%

of the American and Canadian populace, indirectly, no small feat!

By his closing remarks, George indicated he felt he would be having Nancy back in May 2003 [Note: see 2003 Date

explanation], to explain a failure, but this will soon change to a frequently, perhaps even weekly, schedule. Little time was spend on the ZetaTalk accuracy track record, so Nancy has spend a lot of time on email pointing this out to the

skeptical. In future, we would like to see this issue given George's considerable logical analysis, as it is certainly due us, and ZetaTalk, and most importantly Nancy who has sacrificed so much for little respect.

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ZetaTalk: Devastated Cities

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ZetaTalk: Devastated Cities

Note: written prior to July 15, 1995

The stories about Atlantis, which has never been found, are supported by myths of great cities destroyed suddenly by

rising water. Well, that of course happens extensively all over the world every time there is a pole shift. Cities in the main are established on coastlines and broad rivers, where fish and transportation ease abound. When the massive tidal

waves slosh back and forth, these cities do slip under the rising water and are utterly decimated. The cities are destroyed, completely. Buildings that remain are not repaired, as there are no hands to do so. They crumble under the

weather, stones eroding and covered by blowing volcanic dust and eventually rooting plants as the endless rains have

made the volcanic dust into inviting soil.

On mainland China there are remnants of ancient civilizations, and the stories of their past glory seems to exceed the

humble peasantry of today. Was there a great civilization that fell? Yes, as on all continents during the pole shifts, the devastation is so great that cities essentially are brought to dust. China of the past was in keeping with the Chinese

people, who are intelligent and diligent. But their development was no more impressive than what they have today. Of

course, there are places where today there is but a village, the inhabitants of which can scarce do more than tend to

their fields for survival. And if there are traces that indicate a great city once stood nearby, one could postulate that mankind fell. However, after the pole shifts the few survivors regularly migrate, constantly, seeking to escape the

gloom and constant rainfall which is everywhere. Of course the survivors disappeared. They went elsewhere.

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ZetaTalk: Machine Age

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ZetaTalk: Machine Age

Note: written on Apr 15, 1999.

Consider what is necessary to run the average manufacturing plant, which runs heavy machinery. Gears, metal plates -

it all looks quite solid. Lets say the building stands after the pole shift, having been retrofitted and braced, and the machinery itself is pretty durable. Some parts break, but one can replace them, so why would it not run?

There are factors in this scenario that are not being considered. All the necessary small parts, the lubricants and

additives, that will not be available. Most lubricants are necessary, to maintain a certain chemical balance, or there is corrosion. Without these lubricants, parts burn out, wear out, and you can't simply pour water or any chemical in, you

need a particular chemical. The chemical industry will be very hard hit, as much of their stores are liquid and will

burst, spray, disburse, and require specialized ingredients to create in the first place. So you back up, endlessly, and anytime there is a break in the link, the link is broken and affects everything downstream. So it all goes down the

chain. Even a tiny broken part can stop the process, as perhaps a particular metal or particular alloy is needed. Without this a particular function won't occur, an electrical impulse will not occur, or an etching will not occur. If that alloy is missing, all the rest of the machinery becomes idle, and simply is not effective. And if it's not effective, what is the point of maintaining it.

What motive is there for staying and maintaining this factory? Who is going to feed the workers, or pay their salary?

There is simply no flow of money. Bridges are down. The grid is down. The government is in chaos, and gone off to

huddle and get drunk and discuss among themselves. Workers do not come out of loyalty, starving to death, to keep a

corporate fat cat in business. They go off, attempting to find food for themselves. If the industry loses its skills, what occurs? Any industry that finds that its skilled workers are no longer available fails! This is a common fact, and one

reason that bringing immigrants into the US, educated and with a skill set, is considered a necessity. 3rd World

countries can't even get started unless they have this educated skill set. If it goes off, because its more important to feed the family than keep the boss in power, who's going to run the factory?

It's for these reasons that industry will not run, but will go idle. There are cities discovered in Central American and in China, found under the jungles or under the shifting sands, with no explanation for where the inhabitants went. These

were great cities with grand steps. They had irrigation, water flowing through the city, so why did it collapse? Was it a great plague? Was it a terrible drought? Did someone come and slaughter them all? These are remnants of pole shifts,

where great civilizations have fallen in the past. The survivors wander, in search of a better life. They are often

confused, as they don't know what has hit them. They are sure this is a local event and they are off to find out where

the sun is shining and the grain is growing. They all wander. So your industries will be idle, for these reasons.

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ZetaTalk: Worthless Money

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ZetaTalk: Worthless Money

Note: written prior to July 15, 1995

Money will begin to lose its value long before the cataclysms hit. This will be worldwide, and in almost all human

cultures. Why should this be the case, when, as we have stated, the majority of humanity will either be unaware of the

coming cataclysms or in denial? The financial structure of the world's financial empires is really quite fragile. Look to the swings of the stock markets, the bond markets, and other speculations. Panic sets in at a moment's notice. The

problem is that financial matters are based on human perceptions of worth. This moves about, even in the most stable

of times. The value of an item increases during shortage, plummets during times of plenty, and otherwise is affected by various perceptions of being in the right place at the right time. There are gamblers aplenty in the financial arenas.

One of the reasons that financial giants among the elite seek to negate awareness of the alien presence is their fear of the repercussions on the financial markets. If they cannot negate awareness, they seek to minimize panic. Look to

history, to see how little it took to create financial panics. What with the millennium approaching, and all the dire

predictions made by many, true or untrue, many people worldwide will be on edge. Add to this the increasing crop

failures, with consequent food shortages, affecting the markets in commodities.

Humans of good heart concerned with survival through the cataclysms are advised not to look to the money markets

for assistance. Put your money into land and stable structures, documentation on the technologies and scientific

knowledge of today, and apparatus with which to grow hydroponic vegetables and tanks for fish and crustaceans on

the nutrients from recycled sewage.

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ZetaTalk: Precious Possessions

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ZetaTalk: Precious Possessions

Note: written Aug 15, 1996.

During the Transformation, human society will not only find their moorings lost, they will also find their priorities

changed and their sense of what is considered to be a precious possession drastically altered. During stable times,

civilizations build on the past, the past dragged forward as welcome or unwelcome baggage. The past is intrusive, something the young and old are constantly reminded of, and serves as models for the young, rules to be guided by,

and social norms for the newborn to adapt to. During tumultuous times the grip that the past has on society is broken,

and priorities are reassessed. What are termed great works of art by humans are considered valuable only because they came from the past and carry a long list of credits. Each new admirer is thus bolstered and each potential critic is thus intimidated. Even frankly ugly works are thus floated forward, gaining in price. Possessions such as houses or land

carry value as they are assumed to be permanent, the house standing until deliberately torn down and the land

maintaining its view or agricultural productivity on into the future.

After the coming pole shift surviving humans will be starving, broken, frightened, and will find that the price of a meal is nothing so worthless as a painting or statue from the past. A sharp knife, a sewing needle and thread, some seeds,

these things will become the precious possessions.

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ZetaTalk: Barter System

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ZetaTalk: Barter System

Note: written Dec 15, 2001

We predict that long before the shift, a barter system will be replacing the current paper money system. The value of

the dollar, in all countries, will be falling, such that in any transaction one or both parties will feel they are getting a fair deal only if a thing, not a representation, is given or received. This is a common practice in countries where the dollar is falling, and a natural migration as the thought occurs readily to mankind, the barter system being recent in

their cultural evolution. What will this mean for the common man, and what will it mean for the rich? The common

man will find they are pleased with themselves if they have had the foresight to secure goods of value, such as seeds or tools or dried food. The value of appliances that are dead and not able to run, even of cars unable to run over broken

roads, will be zero. The value of items that can increase worth, such as a needle and thread which can repair clothing otherwise worthless, or a shovel that can create a garden otherwise a weed patch, will balloon.

The rich will of course whine endlessly, and try to convince anyone who will listen that their goods will return in value, which it will not. Moneys will be used as a medium of exchange, as will jewels and art, in some settings, for a

brief period of time. This will occur until those being offered these at bargain prices realize the shift has happened

worldwide, and rescue and a return to civilization as they knew it will not occur. Perhaps months, but more likely weeks, and only in limited settings. We advise the common man, as we have in the past, to relieve themselves of stock

and jewels and paper money that will fall in value, perhaps suddenly and without warning. Better to stock up on things

that will have value, candles and matches, school books and a guitar, than what the rich treasure.

In that one's skill sets can be considered a bartering item, one should examine their own skill set by the following

exam. If you were in the middle of a wilderness, alone, what steps would you take to survive? What is the first skill that you would need, and not have? Whom do you know that you would wish about you, in such as circumstance?

What is that skill that they possess, that you perhaps could develop? Imagine a group in such a setting, having arrived at a land dump where various pieces of junk are about and could provide mechanical devices or shelter, if utilized

creatively and resourcefully. How would you go about creating a comfortable home for yourself, and others, in such as situation? If you are clueless on how to use junk to structure a home, recycle and hook up, then perhaps you should

work with a junk man, in his yard, and take lessons! What we are telling you is that you should mentally put yourself

in this setting, and you will have no difficulty determining what is useless or most worthwhile, in a skill set. If you are an accountant, and cannot translate this skill into becoming a tailor or herdsman or cook, your skill is useless!

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ZetaTalk: Safe Havens

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ZetaTalk: Safe Havens

Note: written Oct 15, 2001

Where we have mentioned that increasing polarization will occur, between those in the Service-to-Other and Service-

to-Self orientation, this will become noticeable and even publicly announced during 2002. The population of the Earth,

to the extent that it could travel and move about or establish economic interests in a country of choice, has been

polarizing for some decades, such that the Scandinavian countries have become supportive social democracies and the

entire continent of Africa has been enslaved or brutalized for economic reasons. On a local level, communities living

almost within shouting distance of each other have likewise polarized, families choosing to move or maintain

friendships based on their orientation. Thus, within a city, one suburb may be strongly Service-to-Other in their

support of community needs while another is filled with self focused individuals ignoring each other and intent on

personal agendas. So how does a community announce that it is of a certain orientation, if this is to occur?

Sensing that troubled times are soon at hand, many strongly in the Service-to-Self will attempt to line up a soft life for themselves, where they can be in control of others and dictate the daily events. This takes the form of attempts at

leadership, and offering a safe haven to desperate people unable to do anything but grab a life-line. These safe havens, of course, will be anything but that, and are in essence slavery and abuse. Such offers, to the public at large or to

selected groups recently made desperate by disasters in their communities, take the form of offers of assisted

relocation, guaranteed work, loans with easy payment terms, and joining a community of supportive individuals. A

quick determination of the sincerity of such offers can be done by gauging the longevity of the organization. How long

have they been in business? If new, why have they not formed earlier when human suffering is not new?

Organizations offering self-help, where those in need are empowered with no strings attached, are relatively safe.

Organizations which would put the individual or family in a potentially stranded situation are highly suspect.

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ZetaTalk: Individual Preparations

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ZetaTalk: Individual Preparations

Note: written Oct 15, 2001

On an individual basis, the subliminal mental and emotional preparations done by many who have sensed that

something momentous is about to occur, will move into the overt. Individuals who have been watching the news,

seeing the erratic weather and the increasing inability of scientists to explain the changes and the impotence of

governments to address the obvious implications for their citizens, will decide to take action. In the main, these

individuals are not contactees, though many are as they have given The Call due to their concerns. The steps that an individual takes will differ, depending upon the individual’s spiritual orientation.

Those in the Service-to-Other have considered changes in light of family needs, such as the need for children to

receive the best education, or the need for a particular family member to receive expert medical attention, or the need for employment to support the family at a comfortable level, or the need for able-bodied members of the family to be

close to those needing physical assistance. Often these individuals have lined up an alternative site as a vacation home or second home, or made contacts during business trips so as to be able to move if the need arises. Those in urban

areas are most likely to be struggling for alternative living, as well publicized riots in heavily populated areas have brought home the danger when times turn ugly. Those living along coastal areas subject to tearing tides or on fault

lines subject to increasing quakes likewise increasingly consider their alternatives. The Service-to-Other guided

individual or family will make their move not when the opportunity arises, but when the advantages to moving offset

the advantages to staying. This varies, and can be no more a trigger than the loss or threat of loss of a job, or the end of a school year, or the failure of a family garden.

Those in the Service-to-Self are looking to either perpetuate their life style and control over others, or in some cases to take full advantage of the distress that many will be under to create an essential kingdom for themselves. Those

attached to a spouse or co-worker or friend who is a giving individual in the Service-to-Others will try to tighten the noose, either by increasing demands or enticements. This will be accompanied by a requirement that the person being

clung to report frequently on their whereabouts or intentions, so the clinging Service-to-Self individual can ensure no escape. Those attempting to setup a kingdom for themselves attempt to parlay any semblance of leadership they may

have effected in their life into group formation, becoming a leader in a survival community espousing a safe haven for

all comers. Here one need look no further than the individual’s past history to discern their intent. What have they

done for others in the past? These would-be kings will cast their nets far and wide, seeking the gullible who can be either enslaved by the arrangements offered to them or at the very least fleeced of all their goods and money.

Those in the majority, the undecided, will take many routes depending more upon their immediate vicinity and the

influences in their life than upon any self-initiated urge. If living in comfortable circumstances, young and with money and opportunities for amusement, they may just remain in their setting until surprised by the week of rotation stoppage going into the shift. They will be joined by those in the Service-to-Self who were unable to make safe arrangements

for themselves, and will party, hard, into the end. If living in supported circumstances such as government housing or

government employment or institutional living, it is likely that whining demands will increase. The throng of

undecideds, who have migrated to supported living due to their passive personalities or lack of strong personal drive,

will encourage each other until any but a whine is drowned out. Those in the Service-to-Other serving in such

circumstances will be exhausted and weary, and the lot will go down as time passes due to the death of these

individuals, leaving the undecided to wander off looking for other caretakers. Thus, the steps toward preparation that

the undecided make, in the main, are not preparation but merely reaction.

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ZetaTalk: Personal Decisions

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ZetaTalk: Personal Decisions

Note: written Mar 15, 2002

We have predicted that mankind in the main will go into the pole shift unaware. Most of the world has no access to the

media, or the Internet, and relies on the senses of seers within their culture or their own intuition. As prophets have emerged over the years, warning of the coming earth changes, other cultures such as Africa have also been rich in their own folklore, though the West has been unaware of this. The indians of South American, the tribes of Borneo, the

Australian Aborigines, all have their seers and prophets of old. You are aware of the Hopi warnings, the Red Sky story, but this is just a small part of the underground lore among the American Indian. Most hearing at this time, or even in

the recent past, about the coming changes are not planning any action at all. As astonishing as this may seem, this is because of a predictable set of steps the thinking process goes through.

1. The first thought is that action should be taken. This requires health, resources, and teammates. Should the

individuals have this, in youth, energy, the ability to travel, and others of like mind, they make plans. Should the

individual not have this, in that they are in poor health, old and tired, or blocked from travel due to finances or responsibilities, they move to the next step.

2. The next thought is what to do in the event the warnings are true. For those trapped, by either inability to move

or finances, the conclusion is either death or slow debility. Should the individual be strong enough to consider

the warnings affecting their immediate locale, and concluding that life would be horrendous afterwards, they

subconsciously decide to allow death to overtake them and their loved ones. This is no different than the

decision that those beset with cancer or the final stages of a debilitating disease make - they go with the flow.

Should the individual be weak, frightened at the thought, they move to the next step.

3. The next step is denial, and this takes many forms. Denial is usually loudly shouting down the offending

message, or ignoring it. In any case, it is put aside. Once put aside, the individual moves to the next step.

4. Distraction is the final and lingering step that those in denial take. Work, play, overeating, overexercising, or

getting drunk or dopey. Taking up religions, deciding that saving the local song-birds is the most important thing that one could be involved in, whatever can consume the consciousness.

If a quiet resignation to death is not taken, will a frantic running about after false promises occur? This is unlikely to happen, in spite of the plans of the Hazelwood crowd who hoped to reap millions if not billions from the public due to

their panic. Those in step 1 who have funds will make their own plans, and if they have no funds, will be of no interest to the ilk of Hazelwood. Those in step 2, who have decided that nothing much can be done and they must resign

themselves to the inevitable, will not send Hazelwood funds. Nor will they run into the arms of strangers. They will, if they have religion or poetry in their lives, rely on this heavily. Music and poetry may have a renaissance, an upsurge, as adoption of orphans and the underprivileged. Love may have a blooming going into the shift, as it ought, those with

great love in their hearts responding to the realization that little else matters.

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ZetaTalk: Rescue Expectations

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ZetaTalk: Rescue Expectations

Note: written Feb 15, 2001

As the cataclysms draw near, those who have taken the ZetaTalk message about the coming pole shift seriously will

make their plans. For many, when these plans fall short of their expectations for a standard of living, or comfort, or

security - the gap is filled in with their rescue expectations. Perhaps they live in an urban setting where they have

never had to scrape for food or bother to think about anything more than going shopping. Perhaps they have a high

tech standard of living and can’t imagine being without what technology provides in communication and entertainment

and labor saving devices. Perhaps they are indolent and want someone else to provide the missing pieces, to provide

security and comfort and by all means a good meal at least once a day!

As concern that the ZetaTalk message might be true, to distress when the predictions seem to be occurring in the time

frame predicted, to anxiety that their personal plans will not meet their expectations, rescue expectations, a form of

denial, rise up. What are these expectations, and how likely is rescue going into or during the pole shift, or shortly after in the Aftertime?

The Lift

Having read that those who are categorized as future residents of the Earth, those firmly in the

Service-to-Other, have been offered a lift during the pole shift if they desire to live through the

shift, many assume this rescue has been offered, or will be offered to them. And by the way, can

they be dropped back onto a safe place, into a good-hearted community waiting with open arms for

them. Surely they are Service-to-Other. They are always polite and never try to offend, don’t rob

banks or enjoy sadistic games, so surely this means they are of the Service-to-Other orientation! As

we have with great detail explained, this cannot be superficially determined by the actions a human

may take to avoid trouble with society or the police, or the posturing a human may assume, or any

title they may place upon themselves! Simply stated, if one is looking to the Lift for salvation, they

are not of the Service-to-Other orientation - so don’t count on this as a rescue.


Government Operations

In countries where social services exist, those desperate for a rescue will begin to assume that the

government will act, perhaps at the last minute but in time to rescue them. Announcements will be

made to peacefully evacuate cities and coastlines, tents will be erected, and the populace resettled

after it is all over with the worst of it the beans and rice endlessly served for supper. The military,

politicians, and those holding stakes in the cities and coastlines being deserted will put selfish

interests aside and become humanitarians, in the end. For those clinging to this hope for rescue, we

would only point out that the governments today do not act in this manner, but leave many starving

children and injustices in their wake, daily. Stressful times will not create heroes, it will create

slamming doors. Simply stated, if any are looking to the governments to rescue them, and move

close to government operations in the hopes this will occur, they will not only be disappointed, they

will become slaves or worse at the hands of those determined to remain in control during the

Aftertime.


Space Brothers

A theme of many discussions on the role aliens are playing, during visitations, is rescue. They are

benign space brothers, here to rescue mankind from destruction from atomic bombs, pollution of the

environment, or whatever. Surely, in the face of something as devastating as a pole shift caused by a

passing planet, steps could be taken! Divert the course of this planet! Carry mankind away in space

ships to temporary safety! For those entertaining such an appeal, we would point out that most of

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ZetaTalk: Rescue Expectations

mankind is starving, today, and disease and hardship abound. Rescue is not occurring today, for the

simple reason that life on Earth is a learning experience for growing souls, as we have explained,

and the passage of the 12th Planet is considered a natural occurrence not unlike hurricanes or

tornadoes or disease. Simply stated, humans are to rise to the occasion, and help each other, during

these times. Outside of the help given as a result of a truly Service-to-Other call to help another, no

help will be given. In these cases, another, not the self, is assisted.


Right Neighbors

Since our descriptions of the Transformation include humans and hybrids living near each other,

such that the human communities can benefit from alien high technology - those desperate for

rescue assume they can move in with the right group, and shortly after the distress of the pole shift

find themselves better off than ever! It is a characteristic of the Service-to-Other orientation that no

steps would be taken that would harm others, grossly, so that seeking out the right community that

would make oneself comfortable while deserting those who are currently neighbors would not be a

Service-to-Other goal. Simply stated, those who are shopping around for the right community,

hoping to migrate into a high-tech/alien-assisted life, will in fact doom any community they attach

themselves to rather than find themselves so assisted. Communities that advertise themselves as

Service-to-Other are invariably not that, and would be adoptees loudly proclaiming they are Service-

to-Other while they are trying to insert themselves into communities are likewise suspect.

So what is an anxious human to do? Since the soul lives on, while the human body dies, the spiritual aspects of

survival and life during troubling times is more important than any physical comfort. Look to those around you, for the sense of peace and acceptance they may have in place of desperation and panic. Look to those you are responsible for,

to see how you can make their transition - to the Aftertime or their next incarnation - done with a sense of teamwork

and caring. Look to a simple existence, with a minimum of comforts, during any transition, rather than demanding a

high tech existence or special attention. These attitudes, and this caring orientation, will ensure you more than any

actions you might otherwise take, in arriving at a place where personal comforts and security will once again be an

everyday assumption. Put aside desperation and casting about for rescue, and think of how you can help others. This is

your ticket to better times!

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The cataclysms will come quickly, and the great majority of deaths will be so instantaneous that there will be no time

for anxiety. Concern should be for the survivors, who will be injured, in shock, hungry, and looking in desperation for their loved ones. We would suggest that those who wish to commit suicide be allowed to do so. Most certainly those in

pain and torment, without hope of recovery or hope of receiving medical treatment when such treatment is scarce or

nonexistent, should be allowed this avenue. We would suggest birth control, without argument, as the infant mortality

rate will take out almost all born during the first few after years. Take pity on the mothers, who will share scarce food with a fetus only to see it born dead or struggle unsuccessfully for life.

The grief that will result from the cataclysms will be no greater for any given human than the grief their normal life

would sustain. Grief is something that comes to every life many times during a lifetime. Humans anticipate grieving

over the loss of loved ones, who may die suddenly by accident or unexpected illness or linger for a long, sad good-by.

Humans anticipate torrents of nature - volcanoes, tornadoes, floods, lighting, hailstorms, and earthquakes. These come

sometimes without warning, but many times are anticipated. Humans anticipate societal problems, the loss of jobs or

status, family and friends deserting one, banking failures. All this can suddenly place a human into grief, but in most cases the pending problems have been announcing themselves regularly. Any survivor of the cataclysms could have

experienced a life situation where home, job, family and friends, and health disappeared. This can and does happen

today to many, and not just due to acts of nature.

What will be different is that the anticipated assistance from wealthy countries or one's own government will not be

available. For most of the world, this won't come as a shock, as it is rather a shock when they do receive assistance.

For wealthy industrialized countries, this lack of assistance will be a shock. Some individuals will have to learn to rely more on themselves and to work communally with others. These are lessons that life teaches in any case, however, and

are not exclusive to the cataclysms. The cataclysms offer an opportunity, as does life in general, to be of service.

These are times of great opportunity, to be greatly of service. These are times when one can grow, and discover

strength within oneself previously unknown.

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The 90% die-off that we have predicted, as we have stated, will not occur simply because of the shift. Most will die because of depression, failure to thrive, sitting down with a slight injury and not eating or drinking, as occurs after all calamities. Mankind is used to limited calamities, where a single city suffers a quake, or a single family a devastating fire. In come the Red Cross, the rescue from neighboring towns, the assistance from neighbors. Global calamities are such that no area is prepared to go forth and rescue, and all sit and wait to be rescued. Thus, all sit and wait without rescue.

India will of course be affected massively, and has a high population density. Coastal cities, Hong Kong, Japan, LA,

Paris, will be drown to a great extent. Cities near volcanoes, Mexico City, Japanese cities, Rome, will have heavy die-

off from ash. The next highest die-off will be in heavily populated areas where feeding the survivors simply cannot be

done. Anyone crawling from NYC will find themselves in suburbs, endless suburbs, with no expertise in gathering or growing food. Mexico City is likewise so afflicted, in the numbers it houses that cannot possible escape and dilute

their numbers into the countryside, so as to feed themselves. The only food available will be each other, fellow

survivors. The effect of climate change must be taken into consideration. Population along the current Bulge of Brazil

will freeze, regardless of ability to survive otherwise. The Himalayas, though high and cold already, will become more cold due to their position in the new South Pole, and many will freeze there also.

In short, the highest ratio of survivors will be in rural areas where there is a low ratio of human survivor to land.

Second, where the populace is used to foraging for themselves, not pampered and soft such as in suburbs of cities.

Third, where inundation will not catch the populace unawares, as in remote Siberia, but where natural escape routes

exist, such as in the Mississippi Valley. An additional consideration is the placement of elite bunkers, where the elite will attempt domination over the survivors. This is likely to diminish hope for all there, as the kind of infighting that will occur will be so disruptive of cooperative efforts, that all will go down together with the king-pin demanding his rights.

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Humans note how sensitive their electronic devices are to magnetic pulse, electric surge, and imagine horror during the shift to their tender bodies. After all, are nerve impulses not governed by electricity to some degree? Do sparks not

numb the body part affected? Does electrocution not kill? The base misunderstanding here is the degree to which the

crust shields life on the crust from the magnetic field of Earth. We have stated this already, in ZetaTalk, during early discussions on the extent the magnetic fields reach out into space. We have stated that humans think their magnetic

field limited, as the crust shields them from the true force of the field. The field reaches out into space, flowing from one pole, wrapping around to the other pole, ignoring the crust surface in between. Thus, the field is extensive out in space, far reaching, as is the Sun's field. The crust, having been affected by many pole shifts with hardening magma

pointing in all directions, buffers this. What evidence do worried humans have that magnetic pulse affects their body?

It is true that recent studies have determined that humans residing under high tension lines have an increased incidence of cancer. There are many reasons for this, other than the magnetic field that might be generated in the area, but let us just point out the differences between a high tension line, or being electrocuted, and being a body experiencing an

Electro-Magnetic Pulse. Do you expect that the Earth will crackle with electricity to the extent that your body is when aside a current like a high tension line carries? This would be akin to being near a lighting strike, which seldom

happens, and does indeed leave its mark on humans where the lighting passes through the body to some degree. Man

does not have large magnets, outside of an electrical field! They have small compasses, small magnets, and huge electro-magnetic generators. Here you have the electric current flowing, confusing the issue.

During the pole shift, there will be a strong movement of the magnetic poles of the Earth, but this will not affect humans on Earth anymore than a human standing on the magnetic North and South poles today is affected. It is the giant magnet that is the core that cares, not humans on the crust. To the extend that a magnet inside human technology, or data, or sensitive instruments, receives a pulse, it will of course affect that technology just as data or magnetic

components can be ruined when inspected before boarding a plane. Here again, we point out the difference between

humans and magnetic technology! Do humans die when passing in front of inspection devices at the airport? No! Thus,

protect your equipment, your data, if obsessed, but worry not about yourselves.

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The shift will present many with preexisting health problems with challenges. At the same time, many will find their

health improved, and be surprised by this. most diseases have a psychological basis, a connection, as has often been born out by studies. Cancer, one of the prime killers, has such a strong psychological basis that it can literally be cured by the affected person simply deciding they want to live rather than die. Miraculous reversals, on the verge of death from cancer, are associated with the affected person making decisions to rid themselves of some burden, express their

feelings, or make dramatic changes in their live. Doctors repeatedly state they are astonished that some humans they

literally pronounce dead, survive, by the will to live alone. Others, expected to make a quick recovery, wilt and die.

The immune system is hugely affected by the humans outlook, with depression bringing this down to the extent that the slightest illness can get a grip and take the person out! This is one reason for the increasing illness we have

predicted at the start of ZetaTalk to be a symptom of the approaching pole shift, which is now so evident that people

are astonished at the extent this is affecting cruise ships and the like.

There are, of course, many illnesses that take a toll on the body, damage the body, and no matter how hale the person might be later, how optimistic and enthused, the body simply is not able. Many examples are quick to anyone's mind: Those with kidney diseases needing dialysis;

Those with Type 1 Diabetes needing insulin replacement;

Those with such severe emphysema that they cannot live without oxygen direct to the lungs;

Those with a continuing need for blood thinners, or blood pressure reducers, as the stress of the shift and a lack

of medication will create an instant emergency for these individuals.

What we have stated is that life should be viewed as life was 100 years ago, in industrialized countries, or as it is today in 3rd World countries. Many people are alive today, who would have died quickly in those times. Often death is

viewed as a horror to be avoided, fought, but when it is clearly inevitable, or the person in pain, is welcomed. Do those at the bedside of a very aged person, perhaps 100 years old, unable to move about and scarcely able to understand

where they are, have regrets? They say their good-byes, hold hands and weep a bit, treat the last days when family

may gather as a type of family reunion, and nothing much more is made of this as it is expected that the end will occur.

100 years ago, in pre-industrial or pre-modern times, when surgery was rare, transplants unheard of, vaccinations not

yet invented, and such items as insulin and bottled oxygen not available, many situations resulted in the same mind set.

A child with appendicitis died, and the anxious parents were in fact relieved when pain no longer wracked the child. A

broken limb resulting in infection and sepsis created a crisis and everyone knew the outcome, and all said their good-

byes without hesitation.

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Note: added during the Mar 15, 2003 Live ZetaTalk IRC Session.

It is only today, with antibiotics and replacements therapy, that the assumption is otherwise! This is an issue of an attitude, as death is not the end, and the same calm that accompanies a good-bye to an oldster at the end of a century of living should be in place for many illnesses and injuries. In fact, modern medicine often increases the pain a patient experiences, by prolonging the illness in favor of collecting insurance and pandering to any relative of the patient who demands that life goes on. Nature is not that unkind.

Clearly, there will be many injuries as a result of the pole shift.

Clearly, there will be many who go insane because they were not warned, and are feeling confused and

abandoned.

Clearly, those without medication or supports they need for life itself will die, quickly.

Clearly, many will be depressed and allow simple illnesses to overtake them.

The answer here is to point to the positive side of the changes, not to be anxious about what is happening to the person as your anxiety will have a negative effect on the patient, and to accept what comes as what nature brings or what the person has decided for themselves. Beyond this, there are health affects from living in the wrong place. If downwind

from a volcano, the ash will affect breathing and water quality, as well as the chance for any vegetation in the diet.

The answer to this, is to move. If in an area subject to flooding, such that the feet are always wet, the body never dry, and one finds oneself wading through sewage, then move. We have stated that the atmosphere will be stripped away such that the clouds will be low for some years. This equates, to some degree, to less air to breath in high places.

However, this is also offset by the rise in sea level, as this will push the remaining atmosphere up, thus recreating what most humans are familiar with. Few will be in the high mountain tops during the shift, such that they would be

affected, in any case, by a drop in air pressure or oxygen availability.

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Note: added during the Dec 7, 2002 Live ZetaTalk IRC Session.

Survival groups will be composed of a variety of diverse folk, shortly after the shift and in the long term. We will give some examples, in explanation, as the variety possible is endless, but some predictable patterns will repeat often.

Example 1

A family, with close friends, and extended family members have for some years been talking prophecy and

watching the earth changes. They are serious, plan to the extent that their pocket books and other obligations

allow, so have a site, supplies put aside, and an escape plan laid out. The week of rotation stoppage arrives, and

many of the group are already at the site, the others en route. Several scenarios may ensue, depending upon

location, neighbors, and personalities involved:

The group may be compatible and isolated, and subsist for many months before venturing forth to

meet others.

The group may find fighting breaks out, certain member becoming hostile and demanding and

unable to live under the constraints understood. This many result in that member being expelled, and

returning with others to loot and take revenge. This may result in continuing hostilities in the group,

making life unpleasant and creating stress diseases.

The group may not be isolated, and find neighbors coming with their hands out, starving, or

demanding. This may results in sharing all around, creating starvation in the group or arguments, or

may result in a larger and compatible community with the neighbors, all sharing resources and

ideas.

The group may be known at large, not kept a secret as planned, and have organized looting by the

US Military or local government, looking for hoarded supplies. This would place the group into the

same position they would have been had they not planned at all, on foot, without supplies, and

perhaps without a place to stay.

Example 2

A family has no opportunity to plan, or gather supplies, but is prepared to escape to a safe area, leave the city.

The family finds themselves afterwards with no more than a few bottles of water and canned goods, a sweater,

and a few hand tools in a backpack. They wander into the country side, find a friendly farm family, and all begin

working on mutual goals and tasks. They are joined by others, also on foot or stranded, and those not compatible

leave, those compatible fit in, and the community grows. The farm is isolated, by nature, so not that many arrive, and the sorting out process proceeds without being overwhelmed.


Example 3

A mid-sized community, seeing the earth changes and hearing predictions, decides to hold community meetings,

town hall, and lay plans. The mayor is respected and doing his best, the community has many community

minded groups and citizens, and serious discussions are held concerning problems. They bottle water,

commandeer food and supplies from local stores, assess individual and family needs, and try their best to

function as a governed community. The shift comes, and houses are blown off foundations, injured everywhere

beyond what the trained medical personnel can deal with, and many heart attacks and strokes occur, a medical

nightmare. Those who were to be responsible are in the main simply not found, are off wandering or sitting in

the shadows, overwhelmed, gone mad, or failing to deliver on their promises, a frequent human situation. Food

in storage holds is found missing, looted by those who knew about it and panicked, thinking of themselves.


Those trying to meet the needs of the community and follow through on the plans laid become exhausted,

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stumble about in fatigue, and finally simply sleep or get sick from the effort. Fights break out among the

demanding, who may have had a role to play, forgotten this, and reverted to their true personalities when

pleasant life in the town disappeared and distress arrived. Some new heroes emerge, but like the few trying to

carry out the plan, they too become exhausted, as the majority are not these, but the childish, the selfish, and the demanding. Service-to-Other folk are in the minority, worldwide, and this expresses when stressful times arrive.

In time, families headed by Service-to-Other individuals remove themselves from this scene, taking themselves

and their dependents elsewhere, into smaller groups. In time, those who have not died, looted and then starved,

or left, will be the immature in good health and strength, who will eventually go wandering in search of better

times.

Thus, the best laid plans most often do not work out, and spontaneous meetings, often guided, work out best.

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Note: added during the Jan 25, 2003 Live ZetaTalk IRC Session.

Service-to-Other communities, and their interactions are something we have described in an attempt to give humans an

understanding. We have described how we operate "without money" the title of the piece, for instance, replacing concern and communication for financial transactions. Humans, confused about who and what is Service-to-Other, assume many people and actions to be thus when it is not. An example might be a vain person, who spends time on their appearance and is distressed by being dirty or unkempt. Is this Service-to-Other or Service-to-Self? Depends.

Given a choice of completing an obligation, putting the self in distress to help others who need that help, the Service-to-Other vain person would show their colors. If leaning toward Service-to-Self, or undecided, this person might turn

their back on others in need to keep themselves prim, or vacillate. Thus, vanity, or laziness, or argumentativeness, or combativeness, or intellectual flights, or a tendency to hoard, or a tendency to check out when matters get tense, none of these are in and of themselves exempt from being part of an Service-to-Other entities behavior.

One must see the Service-to-Other person in a situation where they must chose, or change their behavior, to assist others, or not. We have stated that actions are more important than words, that words do not indicate orientation, but what the person does when a conflict occurs. These conflict situations must be where the person will potentially lose for themselves, lose their life, their possession, their stature, their health, whatever. It is then that you see the nature of the person, when put to this test.

Someone may be considered lazy, but this in effect a difference of opinion on what needs to be done. Must the house be all that clean, the ground trimmed, the car washed, or can life go on just as well with these tasks undone? Someone

may be considered unsociable, preferring to isolate themselves rather than interact in endless chatter, but is this a sign that they are not Service-to-Other? Should the situation be that communication and interaction is needed, in order to save the group from distress, the unsociable and uncommunicative one is suddenly a chatterbox! Thus, is it not

possible to give humans, who in the main are undecided, guidelines to determine who is Service-to-Other and who is not, nor to advise thus on social structure for a survival groups whom one hopes will be essentially Service-to-Other.

These matters will sort out quickly when the shift occurs, with the true colors of humans on display, often a shock to those who assumed otherwise. Wait and see, and be prepared to make changes if need be, at that time.

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Note: added during the Nov 30, 2002 Live ZetaTalk IRC Session.

We have recommended from the start that survivor groups start with one's friends and family, known entities. Even

should you not particularly like your relatives, and they despise your friends, at least you have known entities about you. We have advised against meeting on the internet, answering adds, posting one's qualification in a database, or

similar trust-all schemes. Those with skills are unlikely to need to post them and seek entry into another group, as almost everyone who knows them will be uttering invitations! Thus, those who advertise are likely the type of person

to need support, in massive doses, both physical and emotional. We have also advised, as has Nancy within Troubled Times, to keep a low profile, not advertise your site or your presence. After the shift, those who have not lined up a relatively safe location, stocked away a few weeks food supply or a tent or cot, will adapt. Even those who have

prepared must find themselves at that level, as the unprepared, soon enough. One cannot live as an island, well

prepared and ignoring the neighbors, as the presence of a well stocked and electrified group soon becomes known.

Would you turn your guns on your neighbors starving children?

We have predicted that government snoop methods, such as tracking small purchases or the whereabouts of those

claiming to be contactees, will fail. They will be overwhelmed with tasks more immediate and pressing, going into the

shift. We have recommended that supplies be stocked away from the home of the purchase, and no one talk of the survival site location. If in spite of all these efforts, a group finds someone in their midst that is passing this

information onto an establishment arm, what to do?

1. Should such a happenstance occur, first doubt it as the establishment has far more to worry about that a small group with few supplies. If you can feed an army for a month, you may have a worry, but otherwise, they will

ignore the tip!

2. Stay small, as this in itself is an insurance against attracting attention. Gangs looking to loot go to the rich, which have immense stores, not the little guy. Being small also allows a better likelihood that all members of the

group are known, and the likelihood of a snitch in the group lessened.

3. If all else fails and you feel you are under scrutiny, start over! Ditch the supplies, which in any case should have been place in multiple places, unknown to any one individual.

4. If you truly feel you are likely to be invaded and looted, then group after the shift in a place where no supplies exist!

These types of maneuvers will better your chances, and in fact reduce the likelihood of looting or takeover to almost

nil.

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ZetaTalk: Service-to-Others

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Note: written by Jul 15, 1995

Regarding what the future Service-to-Others Earth may appear to be, this will not be something strange. There are

many groups on Earth already who operate in the Service-to-Others orientation. They share their resources, address the

problems of each as though it were a problem for the many, sacrifice their own comfort for the better comfort of the

many, and do not impede the growth or awakening to knowledge of each other. In the Earth of the future, these

qualities will seem to increase in people, and groups will find less and less need for artificial controls on their behavior, and more and more allowance for trust among each other. There are no human societies, however, that exemplify the

4th Density spiritual Service-to-Others community. Human societies are, in the main, populated by the undecided. This

colors the social structure, inevitably.

Where Communism ascribed to a system where each gave according to his ability, and all were supported, this

of course did not occur. Corruption quickly gained the upper hand, black markets emerging, such that those

ascribing to the original philosophy starved and were worked half to death.

Capitalism on its face fails, as while supporting the greedy, who without hesitation step on the least of those

among them to raise themselves up, creates and enhances ignoring the suffering of the neighbor. Those who

espouse capitalism, saying that Capitalist nations are most successful, fail to count the suffering of the little man.

Success is not measured by the wealth and smugness of a few. Pollution, emotional deprivation, the dulling of

the mind and heart of the man on the street - these are the byproducts of Capitalism.

Religions likewise, even if based on the philosophy that the weakest among them should be cared for, and all

should give to the betterment of the group, fail. The Pope lives in splendor, gold and high ceilings everywhere,

while those supporting this structure starve and are given edicts of sexual suppression that the pedophile priests

hardly ascribe to.

Thus, even in the average family, the Service-to-Others 4th Density spiritual existence cannot proceed. Thus, other

than read what we have described as our existence, we cannot point to a human culture, a human philosophy, as a case in point.

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Truly Service-to-Other individuals, with dependents if they do not interfer with the Service-to-Other nature of the

individual, are being guided now. This most often starts by the individual giving the Call, as they see situations around them becoming less secure, changes not explained by the establishment, and wish to continue to aid those they feel

responsible for. The Call results in visitations, and the Service-to-Other individual gets informed of the coming times, and is assisted in sorting out their personal plans. For many, they cannot make solid plans, due to being underfunded or over extended personally, in committements to others. Thus, the Service-to-Other individual often has a last-minute

plan, to escape, with loved ones who will certianly need assistance, to postion themselvses where they can help others

in the immediate Aftertime. Often, the Service-to-Other individual plans to go into the worst situations, into collapsed cities to rescue the innocent, the orphans, and take them to better places. They are being guided as to where to take these troups of orphans, chosen not solely due to their need, but to their orientation, else Lord of the Flies result. And this giving of the Call, and Visitations, and being guided will only increase during the shift, and afterwards.

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Note: written prior to July 15, 1995

During the cataclysms those already operating in the 4th Density Service-to-Other orientation, spiritually speaking,

have an offer from ourselves and our brethren in the Service-to-Others camps, to be lifted to safety during the

cataclysms. This is, in essence, what the Bible is referring to as the Rapture, although this is much misinterpreted to mean a saving of the faithful. This lift is very temporary, and those so assisted will not even be conscious of it.

However, in spite of the brief time involved, most, the vast majority in fact, have declined. Why is this? The Service-

to-Others almost invariable have loved ones in their lives who do not qualify - wives and husbands, children and

grandchildren, and friends, co-workers, and even acquaintances and neighbors.

The time of most need is when the tidal waves and earthquakes hit, and the firestorms and trash in the comets tail

sweep the Earth. It is then that they wish to be with those they care for, to reduce fear and anxiety, knowing that these emotions can lead one astray, into the Service-to-Self camp. Often times the Service-to-Others individual, in the

minority on Earth, is the one who acts as a mainstay for others. They are seldom the one rewarded or applauded, and

most often the one quietly plugging away, supporting others. Look around you, and you will find them, though you

must often look behind the scenes. Take these individuals away, and put the rest in a great crisis, and you will see why our offer of rescue has been declined.

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ZetaTalk: After the Cataclysm

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Note: written by Jul 15, 1995

Each human life lives out its term, with the entity incarnated growing with the opportunities presented, or shrinking

from them. Those humans remaining alive after the pole shift will reform into small groups, leaning toward this

orientation or another, Service-to-Other or Service-to-Self, or being composed of the same mix that human society has

today. Where the trauma of the cataclysms will have been great, those who undergo a natural cataclysm often find this

easier to accept than the steady grind of manmade hardships. For the vast majority of those killed during the

cataclysms, death will have been so quick as to be unexpected and unfelt. No anxiety and no pain. This knowledge

will assuage the grief of the survivors. After the cataclysms the hardships will not be unlike those experienced by

humanity during prior centuries, where severe weather or drought or disease created hardship for the populace. It is

only recently that human society, in the developed world, has come to expect that life should be otherwise.

Note: below added during the July 27, 2002 Live Zetatalk IRC Session.

The US government will be diminished, as will all governments, to a very small locale. Someone landing on the planet

5 years after the shift would be hard pressed to even find their enclave, and this will be true of Australia, Russia, and China. The enclaves will be locale, within walking distance only, yet will be filled with the arrogance of continuing

power, such plans. Like the Pope and his entourage, a small group convinced the world is waiting for them, ready to

follow, a myth that will be a shock to them when they spread out and find no one cares nor listens.

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ZetaTalk: Great Opportunities

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Note: written by Jul 15, 1995

What the civilization of the future will be is open, depending on the free will and motivation of those who can guide

its progress. It would be unfair to those who will be in a position to affect this to speculate. This picture is to be

painted by the artists. The time after the cataclysms, what is termed the Aftertime, will be a time of great opportunity.

Where all the foundations of the past have been shattered, and all is to be rebuilt, there is almost endless opportunity.

The creative nature relishes such times. The courageous will find a bountiful return for their efforts. It will be a time when the capacities of each can be stretched to their limits, and entities can learn of strengths and talents within

themselves they had not imagined.

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Note: written Apr 15, 2002

A common reaction among humans when first contemplating the pole shift as presented by us, is to think that the better

option is to go out with the tidal waves, go down under quake debris, or be blown against a wall by high winds and

have it all over with quickly. Most survivors of multiple pronged disasters sit stunned until death overtakes them.

Imagine the World Trade Center disaster, without rescue. No food stuffs brought in, no financial rescue, no media attention. This is in essence a depression, where less and less is done, as time passes. Illness sets in, and those stunned and unable to see a way out are at last given their way out, quietly.

We present a scenario of struggle to survive in the first place, with travel and terror and living a dual life of

uncertainty due to the establishment cover-up. Getting past that as a short term problem, the larger problem looms like a dark cloud. Life in the Aftertime is fraught with dying forests, lack of livestock or flocks or wildlife to eat, and

gardens that will not flourish. Add to this the description of a Mad Max world, where a set of laws and a governing

body will be nonexistent or turned toward self-service, marauding gangs and the need to live forever in a low-profile

mode to survive. Then the time frame of a 25 years volcanic gloom, with climate change requiring vegetation to adjust

as well as try to re-grow, and it seems a long way off before one can sit on the porch in the evening, enjoying the evening. Those with children despair that they will be educated, will live to adulthood without health problems

besetting them, rotting teeth, painful disease, only to find they are bearing offspring into a world that is a nightmare.

Those in poor health envision that they will become a burden on others, fear this will occur in slow steps so they will be unaware of it, perhaps senile or comatose due to starvation, and unable to control their life at all.

Thus, there are huge worries to anyone taking the message semi-seriously, and the first though is that this is a nightmare to be avoided. So, given this perspective, what IS there to live for?

Those strongly in the Service-to-Others have no problem with this scenario, as they quickly sort out what life

for others will be, and make their decisions accordingly. This is no different than what they experience during everyday today. They may be told they have cancer, but consider who is dependent upon them and plot their life

accordingly. They may be told someone in the family or a neighbor is going to fall on hard times, and adjust

their own lifestyle downward to take them in and share what they have. They may be told someone nearby has

defaulted on their responsibilities, and step in without hesitation to fill the gap, being a father to fatherless

children or whatever. Thus, those strongly Service-to-Others would not be likely to utter a phrase such as "why

live?" as they know why troubled times in particular require one to be there for others.

Those strongly Service-to-Self sort this out in a similar manner, but in the other direction. As with their

everyday decisions, they look over the situation to see how it might be taken advantage of for their own pleasure

or power position. Since victims can be presented at any time, they assume many victims and looting and

plundering and savaging potential galore in a post pole shift situation. Thus, those highly Service-to-Self will

also not be likely to say "why live?" as they are licking their chops and rubbing their hands together.

The undecided are the ones likely to make the statement, "why live?" as they do not polarize in either direction, but rather think of their own life, and how they interact on a daily basis with other, or what they have come to expect as their daily fare. The focus is the self, but as a child focuses on the self. How will this affect me, what will I do when presented with this or that without the resources I've come to expect will be available to me. The immature spirit pushes the post pole shift scenario out only so far, to the edges of the cocoon they see their life

as, and see this cocoon not there. The job will be gone, friends and family may die or wander off, the store

shelves empty, the government offices simply not staffed, and whom do they go to with their complaints? Thus,

it is the immature, the undecided, who will present leaders in the Aftertime with motivation problems.

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Note: written Apr 15, 2002

The undecided have motive in life according to immediate pleasures, in the main. When they see suffering, before them, they feel compassion and may be motivated to give of their own good, or assist, giving of their time, but this

motivation vaporizes as soon as the painful situation is out of sight. They quickly react to a threat of having their

lifestyle diminished, or expectations of them increased such that life becomes more work and less play. Thus, to motivate a spiritually undecided individual is, in the main, to present them with suffering, without a buffer, or to

present them with a better life should they do this or that.

In a survival group, where undecideds are mixed in with strongly Service-to-Others individuals, the undecided

should not be allowed to avoid the sick room or pathetic crying of hungry infants. Force them into this presence, as choices will be made. They will either rise to the occasion and give of their time, being the better for it

overall, or get hostile. If the individual gets hostile, they are making an orientation decision, that their comfort is more important than assisting the suffering of others. In this, the group can decide if they wish to have this

member as a continuing drain, given the obvious orientation and mindset. If they grow toward empthy and

assisting others in pain and need, then they may in fact make a rapid transit to Service-to-Others orientation, a

bonus.

In focusing on the future, making a clear distinction on how the life of the individual, as well as the group, will be better should this or that task be done, works well with the undecided. This is not unlike a parent motivating

an immature child. They get desert if they do the dishes, get to watch TV if they finish their homework, or get to

go to the park if they clean their room. In the case of a post pole shift survival group, the carrot can be more

variety in the diet, less hunger, warmer or dryer quarters, or a chance to sight see a bit and travel.

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Nancy and ourselves are often asked how one can determine if a stranger, or even a familiar friend, is Service-to-Other or Service-to-Self. Those who are mature entities can sense this in the other's spirit, the soul, instantly. Nancy is often criticized for being abrupt with a questioner, but she knows the reason for the questions, the approach, the offer, etc. It is not the actions of the other, nor the words, that give this clue. How does she know? She reaches out and senses the

intent of the soul, and was wise in this judgment prior to this incarnation, one of the reasons she was allowed to proceed on this Communications role she has assumed, with all our support.

Immature entities, those young, who are always in an undecided position, not fully Service-to-Other in their

orientation, are confused. They are confused because they have not yet sorted out their own motivations, goals, and agendas. They themselves are presenting a persona that is often false, to the world, and reassuring themselves that they have better motives than is true. They themselves have hidden agendas, will fail to deliver on promises, and are looking for others to support them when times get tight, though posturing otherwise. They do not know themselves, are not

being honest with themselves as this is discomfiting, so are hardly known to others by the face they present. If anyone questions this analysis, thinking themselves more mature, then the proof is simple. Go into a messy human situation,

into poverty, disease, helping the lowest of mankind as Mother Theresa did in India, living among them. One does not

have far to go for this, as misery is everywhere. If one balks, makes excuses, cannot stay for more than a moment, then you have your answer! Thus, for those who want a criteria to determine Service-to-Other or Service-to-Self, we say that first you must know yourself, as otherwise you simply cannot determine.

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Service-to-Other or Service-to-Self orientation cannot be determined strickly by action, by a rule of thumb, as it

depends. As we have explained, a gruff person can be self centered, or just angry because they see that harm will come

to others unaware. A demanding person might be demanding for the self, although presenting the demands as for

others, and this cannot be determined unless one looks to the result of the demand. Someone barking orders can be simply trying to be in control, or trying to organize the confused and disoriented. There is simply no way to describe

every situation, as they all vary. Service-to-Other or Service-to-Self motives are best determined by the result of the action, as a test of motive, and what the individual is willing to do. If an Service-to-Other individual is barking orders, saying that all should move to higher ground, leaving the food stocks, but insists on r emaining with the food stocks, then you have your answer. This individual intends to run off with them, most likely, else would suggest that all carry a portion to higher ground, the food stocks in many hands, not just in the hands of the individual barking orders.

If an Service-to-Other individual is caring for the dying, binding wounds and comforting the frightened, endlessly for

hours, and there is scaresly any benefit to the individual, then they are displaying true Service-to-Other behaviour. If they are insisting on being in a control room sitting on the medical supplies, and parsing out based on intellectual

decisions as to need, then this is suspect. Thus, one should look to the actions, the willingness of the individual to get down and dirty, to share decisions, to dispurse goods into many hands, to trust others, etc. This is not an easy answer for those who are not mature souls, who can recognize instantly the orientation of another.

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written December 15, 2007

We have a POD outside with stored goods such as water, etc. When the time comes and people are

leaving the coasts for inland higher hills, and rampaging, pillaging, etc as they go, is it morally ethical to

protect goods with a gun with the possibility of having to shoot people because they are determined to

steal? My first impression is that killing is only allowed when one's person is in danger with that being the

only option to prevent the self from being killed. What about property like that which is outside the house

and basically essential to our survival? Of course, invasion inside the home, I would assume is okay to

protect oneself.

In anticipation of crop shortages and the consequent rising price of food, many people have been steadily stocking up.

Those who are anticipating the pole shift realize that there are many months, if not years, between the devastation of

the pole shift and that point where a community can produce food to feed the community. Rice and beans and canned

good are stashed in as large a quantity as the budget can allow, with the family eating the older supplies and

replenishing. When the matter of having one's stock discovered by looting gangs comes up in discussions, the first

thought is to defend the stock in the same manner one would defend the home. Is this not theft? Is it fair that those

who planned and sacrificed in order to be prepared must share with those who partied until the end and then expected

to be taken care of by others? Normally, this would be considered theft, but when there is no distribution of foods to

stores, no food available to be purchased or secured by barter, what is the father of a hungry family to do?

Food fights occur because there is unequal distribution of what is available among the survivors. If there are gangs of healthy adults who are simply out to loot whatever another has, they should be treated like criminals. In that a police force is not available and the phone lines are down preventing anything like a 911 call, survival communities must use

a vigilante force in these matters. It is far better to choose a location remote from cities, in rural areas, so as to keep a low profile and to stay out of the traffic lanes. But if one is trapped near a city or in the traffic lanes, then addressing the nature of the intruders is imperative. Service-to-Self gangs can be identified and give many clues as to their nature.

They will be loaded with weapons and well fed, will not have any young or aged with them, and will probably be

dragging captives they consider slaves or a future meal in a pinch along with them. These gangs should be dispatched

without hesitation.

Those survivors who are good of heart will arrive ragged, the babes and toddlers being carried and the fact that they

had been given food before the adults have eaten obvious as they will appear in good shape. Oldsters and the lame and

wounded may be part of the group, being assisted along by the other adults. These people should not be turned away.

If there is not enough food to support the newcomers, they should be given a good meal and sent on their way to seek

another spot. If it is clear they will soon starve if sent on their way, then decisions should be made based on the whole of the survivor group, including the newcomers and those who put aside a stock of food to begin with, as to who will

live and die. Clearly, anyone overweight should not eat anything but weeds for vitamin content. Anyone with a fatal disease or condition should consider dying sooner rather than later, for the good of others. Certainly, having

unprotected sex so pregnancies result should be forbidden, and this decision should be enforced. If someone is only

thinking of their pleasure, they should be expelled from the community. In many cultures, the aged volunteer to starve

by refusing food and water so they pass quickly and painlessly.

In these matters, it is the soul that survives, and the soul must live with any decisions it makes. If you deny food to a starving toddler so that you can live, then what is the quality of your life afterwards?

Anyone who has a stock of food who does not

Many people view with alarm the thought of

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food shortages and struggling with other

will still be subject to theft from gangs or

people to wrest away a loaf of bread or fist

hungry neighbors. t is almost a welcome sign,

fights over a bag of flour or rice. They view

saying come take this from me. The word

with alarm such thoughts, and their first

would go out that this person or that person

thoughts are to stock up, to buy many of these has a stock of food. So, in the end, hording is

items. Hoarding cannot be disguised. The

not a solution, even for those people who think

police can come door-to-door, open the doors, they are clever and have very carefully hidden

and see a stock of food and this stock can be

their food. People who are starving and

confiscated. These stocks will be confiscated

frightened will aggressively attempt to find

as food shortages occur and hoarding is to be where the food has been buried. It is much

discouraged, so that fighting and arguments

safer to be able to produce food on a regular

and theft do not happen, and this will be

basis.

distributed to others.

ZetaTalk: Growing Food, written Nov 15,

ZetaTalk: Hoarding, written Nov 15, 1999

1999

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Reactions to the changing times are varied, and in only a few cases represent preparations, most often representing stress reactions. Individuals expecting to reduce their live, to live more simply, will not necessarily eat less, exercise more, or have their teeth fixed. All these changes are short term, as rotting teeth will return, and someone slightly

overweight might find this well packed meal handy.

What are symptoms of true preparation? Substantial moves, such as leaving the city and moving to rural areas,

for one. Practicing gardening, or fishing with simple tools, or walking about in the country side munching on

weeds or bugs. These are serious steps, that directly relate.

What are symptoms of anxiety, or self concern, or simply trying to adjust to society to increase security by

fitting in? Getting fit, trim, learning a new language, experimenting with recipes, or getting up earlier in the day

can be interpreted as the type of activity one undertakes to be considered more fit, a better citizen, a more

desirable spouse or date.

The types of activities that are true preparation for survival after the shift are so odd as to be the last chosen by those trying to be a good citizen, or spouse, or date. Does one work with hand tools in the basement, on wood?

Hod odd, when power tools are the cool thing. Does one plant vegetables, in the yard formerly used for golf

swings? How odd, when the boss does not garden, but golfs.

Thus, those who suspect they are subconsciously preparing for the shift can line their new activities up against what is really required, or alternatively up against what society would approve of. Which fits? This will determine what you are up to!

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Note: written by Jul 15, 1995

After the cataclysms, religions of the world will enjoy both an increase and decrease in popularity. Some humans,

bewildered by what has happened, will cling to their religions. Some humans will assume that human actions have

caused the shift, which they will interpret as a punishment. Scapegoats will be selected from their midst, and

sacrificed. Other humans will attempt to modify their behavior, to placate what they assume to be angry gods. In the

main, these practices will occur among ignorant or weak peoples, and in truth these practices occur today. Regarding

religion, whatever trend was occurring within a given human will continue, or exacerbate. Those humans who today

think for themselves will move more in that direction, finding that their religion does not give guidance and is not

coming to grips with the situation.

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Note: written Sep 15, 2001

The Survivor show is a brainchild of the major TV networks, in response to a request floated out to them from the

establishment to mentally prepare the populace for drastic changes that would challenge their mind-set and ability to

survive. How could such a request be made, to major media networks, and not be discussed broadly in the news? The

manner in which the establishment influences the media - which includes TV, radio, movies, magazines, and

newspaper articles - is not bold-faced and with accreditation. It is subtle, passed from a high level government official to a high level executive, both of whom could be expected to keep their mouths tightly zipped. Thus requested, the

executive has a brain-storming session, and leans in the direction of the request during the ideas that are laid forth. The staff then thinks this their idea, and promotes it all the more heavily because of this. Their idea should be a success!

The basis of the Survivor show, as well as movies showing various Earth-threatening situations such as volcanoes or

meteors or asteroid, is to numb the populace to such scenarios. Think of the horrors the populace encounters regularly

- tornadoes, hurricanes, floods, cancer, child kidnappings, automobile wrecks that leave the survivors maimed. When

such horrors are discussed over coffee break or at the bar, they are treated as something that cannot be avoided, cannot be planned for, but just must be borne. By displaying such situations as Earth threatening disasters or bare-bones survival situations where a member of the group must be ejected so the rest can survive, the populace is being asked to consider such dire situations, and have the likelihood be accepted, and to become numb.

Take a look at old TV series, old movies, and magazine articles that appears some 20-30 years ago. Do you see such

scenarios? What changed? The reality of the inbound 12th Planet, the likely pole shift, and the fact that the elite have realized the cannot escape Earth, but must live here with the masses, through this and afterwards!

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Note: written Apr 15, 1999.

The Year 2000 crisis is also a paper dragon, one of many being used by the establishment to distract the populace from

the real danger. Many such distractions, such as the Presidential impeachment, are simply to draw people away from

the real concerns. Some disasters during the Year 2000 crisis will prove to be almost entirely man-made and could

have been prevented. They have been seeded. Not enough to cause terrible disasters, but enough to put some weight

behind the message so that people will start to take these kind of warnings seriously. The message is to rely on the self.

What if the grid were to be down? What if the stores were to be empty? Start to think. They are trying to get the

populace used to these kind of thoughts. Some of the difficulty with eating beef, some of the scares like mad cow

disease and e-coli, are designed to force people to turn away from a high meat diet and return to a vegetable based

diet, which is of course more efficient. Why feed the cow when you can feed yourself. You really don't need the

protein that you're stuffing into your mouths. Look at the Orient, where they make do with very little, a tad of fish in the rice.

The populace is being manipulated in many ways to become more self reliant. The faster they move in that direction,

the more honest the government will be with them. Those of good heart in the government cannot tell the populace the

bad news, as the arguments about what to do with panic are too shrill. But if the populace is preparing, if they are

gardening and are prepared to take the bad news, those in the government who want to warn people will bravely step

forth and begin to give it give these warnings to the populace. There are those in the government that agonize over the games that are being played, who cannot sleep at night and find it hard to live with themselves. But unless the populace is prepared to help itself, unless an alternative to panic exists, the games will go on. The basis for a lack of panic is the sense that there is an alternative, that the populace is preparing to be self sufficient.

There will be no security blanket that the populace can rely upon, so self reliance must be the rule. The panic that will settle into governments as the time approaches, when each individual will be dealing with their own personal panic and

anxieties, is completely unpredictable. It may run in all manner of directions. The movies that have been put out of

late, where asteroids are falling and a calm prevails, and the government is like a rock of logic and quietly empties

towns or flies people up to blow up asteroids, is so far from the truth as to be ludicrous. You will have your military running down the halls and bumping into each other; leaving their posts, turning guns on themselves and others. It is

totally unpredictable. What will a frightened animal do when cornered? Well, your entire government and

bureaucracies will turn into that in the last few months. So the populace should not look to them, but rather look to

themselves.

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Note: written Jan 15, 2001

Survivors will find that they have a mix of experiences. This will range from people being plunged into what is

essentially a Third World existence - straw and mud, eating what you can catch and kill, and hoping to cook it well

enough not to get ill - to being very high tech in communities that are established with enough money and expertise

and skill to have banks of batteries, radios and antennas, windmills and generators driven by gasoline or something

that can be burned, and food stocks. So there will be a wide range of survival communities shortly after the shift.

However, this will change over time. Those communities that find themselves scratching in the dirt and living a most

primitive life may find, if they are spiritually of the right nature, being Service-to-Other, that they encounter people who are odd looking - seem to be bald and not wish to linger and have a conversation, but drop things off. What’s

this? It appears to be a battery. What’s that? It appears to be a sack of food or seed. One thing leads to the next, and after awhile these mute, bald neighbors will be interacting regularly and these human survivors will find they are living a very high tech existence with remarkable neighbors. They will accept this because desperation fosters acceptance of

solutions.

The high tech communities of humans, who in many cases will be enclaves of the rich, who have used their wealth and

power to carve out an area whose perimeter they can protect with the military which will become mercenaries to the

rich in such situations, will find they do not get this type of assistance. What happens in these communities, then, when the stores run out, when there’s no more fuel to run the generator, when there’s no more bags of food and canned

goods to feed the community? Arguments break out. The mercenaries are hardly going to take orders from the idle rich

when they have no power or authority and can’t supply them with money or goods or anything of value. These

pampered rich people will be slaughtered, and sometimes in unpleasant ways, by their angry mercenaries, who in many

cases have thug tendencies and enjoy cruel games. So now we have gangs, chewing down everything they can get their

hands on and then going on the loose after there is nothing more to eat. These types of people are not prone to plan and work with each other, so growing crops and gardens and the like is the least of their thoughts, but looting is. But when they go on the loose, they will in fact be turned away from enclaves of good hearted people, in the many ways we are

able to deflect knowledge and attention. We can be in the room with you, and you don’t see us. Likewise, a gang of

thugs can pass by a good-hearted survival community and not see it, because we have prevented them from seeing it.

So these gangs of thugs will die out, and the enclaves of the wealthy will become true hell-holes, something they don’t anticipate.

Survival communities of good-hearted folk will become high tech, due to interactions with aliens who have a

technology many thousands of times superior to the technology that your human cultures now enjoy. But it will not be

the technology of Homo Sapiens today. It will be better than that.

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Note: written Jan 15, 2001

During the Transformation, groups of humans will not be separated entirely by orientation at first. This is due to the

mix of orientations in human society today, done deliberately to facilitate 3rd Density choices among humans who

must decide their orientation - Service-to-Self or Service-to-Others. Often, a highly Service-to-Self entity is placed to reincarnate into the arms of highly Service-to-Other parents, so that both can become familiar with their future

situation, where clear polarizing of the orientations will occur. In 4th Density spiritual existence, where the

orientations are separated, there is no mix except during those occasions where an engagement is agreed upon, and

then those in the Service-to-Other meet highly Service-to-Self oriented entities, and vice versa. Thus, it is often

deemed an education, a preparation, to mix these entities together in family or small communities, during 3rd Density

life just prior to a Transformation.

Thus, during the cataclysms, many highly Service-to-Other families or small communities may find they have a highly

Service-to-Self child among them, or someone of this orientation who is physically dependent upon them in some way.

Do they cast these young children or dependents aside, in order to become a fully Service-to-Other group? This is in

conflict with the nature of those in the Service-to-Other, especially as there can be no certainty that the child or

dependent person has truly decided on a Service-to-Self path. What if they are undecided, dithering, and abandonment

would push them in the wrong direction? The Service-to-Other human wants to establish a tone of hope and caring, for

all in the group. Should these individuals be punished, during the Aftertime, living in desperate circumstances without help from high tech hybrid communities, only because they are caring for some who are not fully Service-to-Other?

There are rules visitors and hybrid communities are under, set by the Council of Worlds to ensure that the

Transformation proceeds apace and is not delayed unnecessarily. The line where visitors or a community of hybrids

can assist their human neighbors, or not, is determined by who controls the community of humans. We will give

examples.

If the community is led of a consensus of the adults, the majority of whom are Service-to-Other, assistance can

be given. This community might include some highly self-focused adults, perhaps with young children whom

those in the Service-to-Other orientation feel responsible for, and thus tolerate the adults parents for the sake of

the children. However, these self-focused adults do not rule, or even influence, the course of affairs in the

community.

If the community is so mixed as to have as its leadership undecided adults, who are as prone to listen to self-

focused arguments as arguments with a strong Service-to-Other motive, they cannot be given assistance. This

line is drawn as these communities would then gain strength, which would surely be misused by those in the

Service-to-Self in the group, who would take any high tech assistance to further their power over others. Worse

yet, this high tech advantage would be used to conquer other groups of humans.

After the Transformation, those in the Service-to-Self do have high tech advantage, but they are strictly quarantined from those in the Service-to-Others. This is controlled by the Council of Worlds, and prevents those in the Service-to-Self from conquering those they would make as their slaves. But during the Transformation process, where mixing can

occur and frequently does occur, such a strict separation is not possible. Thus, where leadership is not under a Service-to-Other motive, these communities cannot have a technological advantage outside of that currently achieved in human

society.

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Life in a hybrid community would not be something desired in any but a highly Service-to-Other individual. We have

stated that polarization will be natural, after the shift, with those undecided leaving highly Service-to-Other

communities, for these same reasons. Those highly Service-to-Self naturally leave a group highly Service-to-Other

when they cannot dominate or control them, as the incessant attention to others, to the well-being of others annoys

them. In human society today, normal for 3rd Density existence where the orientation decision is the prime lesson to

be determined, Service-to-Self can dominate others. They migrate to where this domination has the least resistance,

among the weak, the young, etc. If in a situation where they cannot rule, dominate, they move on seeking a better

setting. Thus, a man who smacks his wife and children about when they displease him, his endless demands for

immediate satisfaction of his wants and needs, leaves this family if he comes under community surveillance or

policing. He lines up a new wife, in another community, and starts this practice again.

In the Aftertime, he will find these new communities so highly full of Service-to-Self that he will have competition, and be likely to be the one abused himself. When he leaves and tries to insert himself into a Service-to-Other

community, he will be rebuffed and sent elsewhere or will have to abide by rules that frustrate him in the extreme, so

he leaves. If he finds an undecided community, he will try to reinstate what he recalls from his 3rd Density mixed past.

Now, increasingly, the Service-to-Other will separate from the undecided, and certainly separate from the Service-to-

Self. They will, in essence, disappear! They will thus leave the undecided to fend for themselves with the Service-to-

Self, so the balance of Service-to-Self will increase, and the undecided then leaving this setting, slipping away,

endlessly. Thus, the Aftertime setting will be

1. disappearing Service-to-Other's,

2. undecideds slipping away to form their own groups,

3. Service-to-Self left with themselves only!

Now, the undecideds will find their life much as it is today, in human society, regarding rules and societal

expectations. The Service-to-Self will find life unlike what they recall, as they will be the picked upon where they expect to be the dominant person, but this is experience in preparation for their next lifetimes, so just as well. And the Service-to-Other will find they are meeting new neighbors, the hybrids and other visitors from elsewhere.

What is life like, in these hybrid communities, that Service-to-Other desire this and others do not? We have mentioned

this already within the body of ZetaTalk, but will list the highlights again. There are no secrets! Telepathic knowledge of the others, their needs, their desires, their thoughts, is utter and open. This means that you are aware of anothers needs, and can respond, but this also means that unlike human society today, others are aware of your resentments,

your jealousies, and those thoughts you might like to keep secret. There is a sharing of resources, and workloads, so

that what needs to be done is addressed, rather than what someone might have planned for their day. This means that your personal agenda, your mission where you will be the star and can feel accomplished, might not be what is considered important! Perhaps you planned to continue writing your book, but must put this aside to harvest fish. An

adjunct to this is that taking credit, getting your name in lights, is not considered a necessary part of the action. Your contribution may be behind the scenes, to help someone else achieve, as they are more suited to being the spokes

person than you! Where in human society today this is a big issue, in Service-to-Other society it is a point of

satisfaction to help others, the credit and the stage not being the big issue.

Thus, those undecided and especially those highly Service-to-Self find this all stuffy and dull and frustrating, and leave on their own accord!

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written Dec 6, 2003

Distraught and frustrated at trying to convince family and friends that preparations for what seems to be surely upon

mankind must be made, many wonder how they can join with others to enhance their survival possibilities when no one will listen. Denial hardens the more a threat makes those in denial uncomfortable. Thus, the worse the situation

becomes, the more obvious the impending crisis, the more those in denial shout loudly that nothing is amiss.

Unabashed advertising for group formation brings a horror to the door: scam artists, clinging dependency looking for a

parent to lean upon, and those who have nothing to offer and everything to gain from association with others. Will

everyone sincerely trying to join with others to form communities find they are standing alone, waving a flag, in the

last days?

Existing Communities

Some communities, remote and rural, will continue essentially as they do today, perhaps with fewer individuals

due to death from shock during the shift, but with the same basic political and economic arrangements.

Distribution of goods and services will adjust to deal with the goods and skills available, and life will go on as

before. Newcomers who drift into such communities are likely to find themselves rebuffed, as the known is far

more reliable and comforting than the unknown from a stranger. Thus, strangers wandering into such

communities find themselves moving on, having been made to feel distinctly unwelcome if not encouraged at

gunpoint to do so from the start.


Planned Communities

Though widely unreported and discretely secretive, many people in cities or operating in the professions have

sought to arrange settlements for themselves and friends or others of a like mind. It is reported that NASA

employees have established monolithic dome communities for themselves, co-workers, and extended families.

Those with connections to the elite have been rumored to have burrowed into rock in Alberta and the Ozarks,

well stocked enclaves. Due to the number of untried relationships, which invariably hold surprises, these planned

communities rarely work out. Hidden agendas, personality quirks, and attempts to dominate the group tend to

fracture such arrangements, and there is a parting of the ways.


Spontaneous Communities

Spontaneous group formation will be the most prevalent mode in the chaos of the early days of the Aftertime.

Crises brings out the worst and best in individuals, heroes and leadership, a sense of responsibility for the larger

group, and a willingness to share offset by demonstrations of utter selfishness when fear takes hold, desertion of

loved ones no matter how frail and desperate they may be, and loud demands to be taken care of before all

others. Thus, survivors will find themselves with their truth test, in regard to what individuals they might want

to join with or avoid. Those who have run from the cities will find themselves wandering for a time, but most

likely will settled into either:

1. frank wilderness living, with makeshift tents and hunting and gathering for food

2. farm stead’s, where the farming family finds the newcomers to their liking and needs willing hands

3. waterworld living, where a boat or houseboat is constructed or located and coastlines traveled

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Decisions will have to be made. In an ideal situation everyone is good hearted, everyone is reasonable, they all share.

This is the optimal situation. But in reality, life will not be that dissimilar from today, when decisions are made.

Families say they are kicking a family member out of the house, for various reasons, or someone is fired from a job or

no longer allowed in an association. This will be no different. People will make their decisions, for good reasons or for bad. Lets say they are for good reasons, lets say there is somebody who threatens the survival of the entire group, they have an unreasonable attitude, they don’t want to work, they don’t want to assist, they want a larger share, they create arguments, being selfish. The decision is made that if the group is to survive, because perhaps it has come to that, this person must be ejected.

In this matter, think more of those you are protecting, the little children in the group, those who roll up their sleeves and are willing to do whatever is required. They deserve equal time, so to speak, and consideration with this person

who is threatening the group. In some cases, you will have to move, you will have to pick up and leave, even in the

dead of night, with your dependents, to get away from a situation that is overwhelmingly bad. Think less of your sense

of responsibility to those who are trouble makers, or thinking of themselves and trying to get their larger share, or

dictate to or dominate the group. Think less of your obligation to them and more of your obligation to those who

deserve your time and attention in these matters. This would be our advice on those ethical dilemmas.

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ZetaTalk: Elite Enclaves

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written Jan 10, 2004

The Zetas mentioned that the Elite are commandeering whole geographical areas and sealing

them off with landmines and armed guards; and that they are targeting survival groups upon

which to base an economy in the Aftertime. Would the Zetas care to mention any geographical

areas to avoid?

As we have mentioned, the elite have belatedly come to realize they have No Place to Run, having arrogantly assumed that their pacts with Service-to-Self aliens to lift them to safety would be honored, or this pact failing that bunkering into mountain sides would be fail safe, and that in any case all of these efforts would be guarded by the might of the

US Military. Of course, Service-to-Self aliens lie, and would in any case not be allowed to rescue those humans who

had given them the Call, as the Council of Worlds will only allow those in the Service-to-Other such an offer, in that

Earth voted to become a Service-to-Other planet during the Transformation. Thus those humans who assumed they

would be lifted to safety to cities on the dark side of the Moon or to Mars, which by all appearances would be

habitable with frozen water beneath the surface and an atmosphere capable of creating dust storms, were stunned, the

hollow cry of the Bush Administration for manned Moon stations and a manned trip to Mars only bravado in the face

of this failure.

Bunkering into mountains has been a favorite theme since the days of Mt. Weather, only the barest revelation of a

massive undertaking to go underground, from Denver to Houston to Kokomo to Virginia, known to the public. As the

Earth changes have commenced, the lock-down of plates during the deep quake that peaked in the 80’s and early 90’s,

the move to domino quakes where the whole world felt the shutter of an adjustment anywhere on its surface, and the

devastating effect of stretching, not even considered in prior calculations. The term ‘rock solid’ takes on grim

overtones when this is rock that drops into the tunnels during stretching, or shifts to skew a doorway such that it cannot be opened. It is known that when rock is compressed radio static and compass interference occur, but those in

underground chambers die mysteriously during intense rock compression, a surprise to their human masters who

suddenly find themselves making other plans at this late hour.

The US Military, as we have mentioned and as has been suspected since the August vacation time of grim faces all

around the Crawford Ranch in Texas, has bolted and no longer takes orders from the White House, all appearances

aside. Thus, the elite, from arrogant politicians and corporate executives to the pampered wealthy, must make new

plans. The result, not surprisingly, is to enclave in those countries or regions where the locals are either in sympathy with the elite or well suppressed and considered a slave class, to move their supplies and militia there under the guise of establishing vacation homes, and to encourage discussion in the media about the possibility of an interloper in the solar system along with the many prophecies anticipating this time, so that solid survival camps can be anticipated to

form among the hardy, the basis of a new citizenry to be managed by the elite in the Aftertime, or so they hope.

These regions are, not surprisingly, in central Africa, Argentina, eastern Australia, Kazahstan, and Wyoming. Norway

was considered an option until very recently, which explains the odd visit by Bush to this country in the past months. It should be noted that these spots give access to oil reserves in the case of Nigeria, Kazahstan, and it was hoped Norway with access to the North Fields. Argentina and Australia are harshly ultra-right, as is the Wyoming enclave of Cheney.

Each of these enclaves allows outreach to land masses, in all directions, so are not expected to be isolated. Places

avoided by the elite are areas expected to be crowded from overpopulated cities, such as the East Coast of the US,

Europe, and the Pacific Rim. Countries dominated by Islam are also avoided, due to anticipated culture clash and

resultant hostility. Our advice to survivors, regardless of how friendly these new neighbors portray themselves,

regardless of what gifts they come bearing or what offers of aid, avoid them, like the plague.

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ZetaTalk: Led by Children

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Note: written Jan 15, 2002

Many children are being born at this time, quite young to face the cataclysms that will occur before they reach their

teens, much less adulthood. Why would this be the plan, when such children would likely be in shock, neglected, and

unable to lead, certainly. These special children are in a optimal position to lead, contrary to mankinds understanding.

Why would this be so? Children, souls incarnating into the young, are without the burden that human adults have

assumed, of preconcieved notions and the societal need to conform. They are open, and comment upon what they see

as reality, not with the suppression that society imposes and which becomes automatic and adopted by adults who must function in society. Likewise, these children have stamina and health, as in truth the human body is strongest

prior to the age of 20 or so, and declines afterwards.

Thus, survival groups, stunned by what has happened and in despair over being abandoned and lied to by their

governments. In shock over the adjustments to their prior lifestyle, and depressed over the adjustments that must be

made. Will be led by these children, who will see resources and avenues not apparent to their parents and caretakers.

They will find each other, and communicate, and create bonds between groups that the adults would not think posible.

They will be the visionaries of the future, among human survival groups, to a degree that would stun their parents now.

Thus, led by a child is a phrase that will become a reality in the near future. They are on the increase now, to serve as during the shift, when most of humanity will be stunned and hurting and the lack of leadership crying for natural leaders to step forward. Of course, the children will not be the only ones leading, as there are many natural leaders among the adults! But the relative youth allows them more flexibility. Not the least of which is that adults may resist other adults, getting into posturing, but will take a child's suggestion as just that. Children have ways of influencing their elders which the elders scarsely take note of, but an anaylsis of the process shows that the child is leading.

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ZetaTalk: What the Heart Seeks

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written Jan 12, 2004

There is often endless pain when a loved one goes missing and is not confirmed dead. Look at

the MIA issue in Vietnam. Those seeking closure imagine their loved one in pain somewhere,

in trouble, needing help, lost, lonely, and are in anguish. Won’t the pole shift, with disrupted

communications and families spread far and wide going to school or traveling for work or

pleasure, not the nuclear family of old where all were local, create this scenario? What can

be done to ease the anguish and worry?

Forced separation will be one of the major reasons for mental breakdown, during the days of anguish leading up to the

shift and in the weeks and months following. Man is a social animal, and as any analysis of disrupted social networks

in the animal kingdom will demonstrate, experiences emotional pain when separated from what is considered the

family group. Dogs run in packs, and domesticated dogs are grieving when separated from their owners for any length

of time. Cats fun in prides, and though often considered aloof by their owners, can be found situated on a window sill

or chair in the vicinity of their owners. Birds are found in flocks, and will have it no other way. This is inherent in the animal, a survival instinct, and the emotional pain caused by separation for good reason. In human cultures, expulsion

from the group is considered a punishment known to bring pain. Exile. Excommunication. Divorce. Termination.

These have impacts beyond the financial and convenient, the primary being emotional pain.

Nancy will relay that some of the most poignant email she gets is from individuals forced to make trips, the potential

of being separated from family and home so worrisome when no firm date for an upswing in Earth changes will be

given. These are real concerns, far beyond the convenience of whether a bill should be paid or cosmetic surgery be

scheduled. When serious slowing commences, there will be some who find it difficult to return home, but these will be

few. Steady slowing will be a drumbeat that will not be mistaken, so unless one is held prisoner in some manner, prevented from returning, such a situation will not present itself. But what will be in lost when the phone lines fail, the mail no longer delivered, will be the connection between extended family members, or those friends and coworkers

long held dear who stood as replacements for a family bond.

grandparents worried sick about the young grandchildren in a suburb close to a city, trapped there, apparently, by

parents who refused to consider any emergency until the government formally announced it. Is the child

wandering alone, injured and starving and frightened?

the wife whose husband was on a construction crew, far from home, knowing he is now homeless.

a nephew, who always considered his aunt and uncle his parents, wondering how they faired in a river delta

when the flooding started, the home and all in it perhaps swept away.

Beyond the worry for the other, is the anguish of separation, a matter not easily put to rest and properly grieved over as certainty is not at hand. Funerals are for the living, allowing them to come to terms with the death, the certain death, of a loved one, else the heart is trapped, suspended. What will occur in such instances? Migration will be so

commonplace as to almost be the norm, after the shift. Where this will primarily be due to flooding and earthquake,

survivors having scampering ahead of rising water or crawled out of the debris heap that cities will become, and

secondarily due to a search for food, it is also a search for family, comrades, to establish the sense of belonging.

Shelter and food are more easily gained than the connection, which when lost takes a period of grieving before

substitutes are accepted, emotionally. Thus depression will be rampant, the sense of loss aggravated, the anguish

unresolved. We have often stated that those heavily into the Service-to-Other orientation will be assisted, most often

sight unseen, by guides in the Aftertime. This will include assistance in reuniting separated loved ones, if only via

visits as contactees on space ships, for reassurance or closure, but often also as guided migration, to help the heart find what it seeks.

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ZetaTalk: Coordination

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Note: written Dec 15, 1995.

Increasingly, during the Transformation, contactees are beginning to work together. They find each other not by

accident, not because they are browsing over the same books at the book store, not because they are members of the

same organization, but because they have been introduced to each other behind the scenes and have plotted their meeting time and place. It is we, and our brethren in the Service-to-Other, who respond to The Call of many by

arranging these opportunities, which are warmly received and acted upon. These meetings result in marriages, business

arrangements, friendships, philanthropic connections, and long range planning galore.

Survival groups are very unobtrusively arranging themselves. Neighbor to neighbor talks, people meeting in their

normal association and identifying each other more so than any kind of organized activity where they answer an add

placed in the paper. They are in fact migrating to live close to each other regionally, and by this they are being guided since often they are meeting each other as contactees. They are most often not unaware on a conscious level of why

they are making the moves that they are making. They make all manner of excuses, pick up and move, change

occupations, and find themselves in an area where they get along better with the neighbors and their particular skill set meshes nicely. This will increasingly happen as the time arrives and even after, where those survivors will migrate

following their instincts more than anything and finding each other.

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ZetaTalk: Aftertime Raids

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Note: written by Jul 15, 1995

Regarding attacks on Service-to-Other groups by Service-to-Self groups in the Aftertime. Of course, this will be their

first thought. Conscientious groups of Service-to-Other humans, having prepared, will have food and shelter. There

will be laughter coming from their midst, as they find life goes on and the good things they held precious are still in their lives. The young will grow and be curious and educated. Music still comforts and scientific discoveries still

intrigue. The Service-to-Self, having not bothered to prepare, will look to these communities as a place to raid. This

will be a decreasing problem, as time goes on. We have stated that the Service-to-Self humans will die out on Earth,

and this is in part because they do not nurture their young, but primarily because those prone to this orientation will not reincarnate here. This is not a matter in their control, over which they have a choice.

But what about the interim, when various humans of mixed orientation or distinct Service-to-Self orientation look to

the Service-to-Other communities and consider a raid. There will be assistance in these matters, from ourselves and

others. Primarily this assistance will be in the form of blockage, where the Service-to-Self humans either cannot find

the communities, cannot see them, or are distracted in some way. In this regard we advise these communities to be

remote and not advertise themselves. Those who are to find you will do so, as they will be guided to your location.

Secondarily, this assistance will come in the form of active repelling, where the Service-to-Self will find their blows or missiles do not land as expected, but turn somehow upon themselves, perhaps blowing up prior to being launched or

the like. It is best, therefore, for these communities to focus on survival, and life after, and minimally on self defense.

The best defense is a well chosen location.

It is also advisable to be selective on who is allowed into the community. Where the community is truly Service-to-

Other, there should be only periodic encounters with the Service-to-Self orientation to deal with. Remember, the

Service-to-Self will not be in close communication with each other. Cooperation is not normal among those in this

orientation. Where frustrated, they will turn and look elsewhere. They will attack each other more often, as they

themselves are the type to horde. Should the Service-to-Other communities be of soft heart and allow into their midst

great numbers of humans who have not yet chosen their orientation, they will find they have brought the problem into

their midst. The soft hearted should share knowledge of their techniques in growing food, but send the spiritually

immature to live in their own groups. Thus the Service-to-Other communities will not be destroyed, and the separation

will be sped along on its course, which is inevitable in any case.

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ZetaTalk: Prison Gangs

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Note: written Mar 15, 2002

Prison populations are well know to the public, who hears the horror stories of activities both by the guards and

prisoners, in the news and in the movies. The guards are scarcely better than the inmates, being inclined to sadism and lording it over others when in control. During the shift, prisons will spill out and prisoners escape. These will as

expected become the primary Service-to-Self gangs in operation after the shift. However, less the public expect

Ghengis Khan to reincarnate in essence, the opposite will occur. Such gangs require a continuous supply of food and

goods to continue a looting and savaging campaign. After the shift, supplies will run out quickly, and dead people

offer no satisfaction to these marauders. They will quickly, as we have stated earlier, find themselves without the

means to keep warm until the morning, and without anything but each other to eat. Weakened, and decimated by

infighting, they will succumb to disease and defense by Service-to-Other communities who will give in return the

aggression they sense in their attackers.

In the US, Texas was to become a prison state so that Bush Sr. could have his hordes in the Aftertime. Bush Sr. was

aware of the Zeta predictions, but being highly Service-to-Self listened to these aliens voices instead. They are interested in agony, great despair, and raising hopes and then dashing them achieves this end. Likewise, the Texas

trend to house prisoners and mistreat them, has a Service-to-Self base. Rather than cost cutting, Bush Sr. intended to

have them released, escape, and be his savaging horde overtaking survivors in the US. Do you think it an accident that

so many prison escapes occur, in Texas? This is by plan, occurring earlier than expected. This was setup during the time when Houston also was established as the best stop for a carryon government, in underground bunkers. Bush Sr.

and his Service-to-Self advisers were scarcely listening to any advice we gave, and thus discounting, omitted to be

concerned about flooding in Texas, which will be overrun with a flood tide. Thus, prisoners locked in prisons will drown, and those escaping will likely meet this fate, except for a few like wet rats crawling onto shore, alone.

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ZetaTalk: Hybrid Homes

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Note: written by Jul 15, 1995

Will our hybrids take up residence on Earth, after the cataclysms? But of course, in Service-to-Other communities.

This will be selective and cautious, and in most cases human societies, as much as they can function after the

cataclysms, will be unaware. Some of our hybrids will live alone, or with us, the full- blood Zetas, and in some cases

will live also with humans. The standard of living in these communities will be much higher than you now enjoy - very

high tech, as you say. The hybrids will expect to live as they now live, with automated food production and controlled

temperature and light. Science is advanced, and exploration in the sciences is an occupation of almost everyone. The

forms of energy and travel will approximate those we, the Zeta, and the hybrids enjoy today.

The Service-to-Others hybrids and Zetas will adopt Service-to-Other humans into our midst, to some degree. Where

there are communities of humans, only, who are living in the Service-to-Other orientation, these technologies will be

given as a gift. Communication, or the sharing of news, is complete and without censorship. Community activities are

determined by vote, much as we have described how the Council of Worlds now polls the opinions of people on Earth.

Each has a voice, and there is no need to rush to the poles.

Most human societies, even when operating under the Service-to-Other orientation after the pole shift, will remain

strictly human. Some communities solely composed of our hybrids will spring up on Earth after the shift, in areas

greatly devastated or on new, uninhabited, ground. As our hybrids are not entirely unknown, today, to some humans,

there will also be mixed communities. In these it is expected that humans will share the technologies enjoyed by our

hybrids, thus essentially being adopted. Of the whole, these communities will not be that numerous. Recall also that the humans adopted will have undergone a great devastation, and be essentially homeless. Where humans have prepared

for the cataclysms, and are operational afterwards, direct adoption by our hybrid communities is not likely.

Humans desiring to form Service-to-Others communities in preparation for the cataclysms should not concern

themselves about physical proximity to the Zetan hybrid communities. We will find you. We do not have our future

locations picked out, as this will be dependent on many things. The free will of humans, who will make many changes

between now and then, affects the result. Your focus should be on your convenience, and being able to achieve your

goals, which will not be all that easy. Convincing humans to give up many conveniences, to live in a more primitive

state, just in case, is not all that easy a matter. Many will resist your suggestions, and proof of the comet's existence and path will come late in the game. Focus on what you can achieve, and we will be in touch. We will come to you.

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ZetaTalk: Cataclysm Link

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Note: written by Jul 15, 1995

There should be no confusion between the coming cataclysms and our goals. They are not related. The cataclysms are

something that happen regularly to the Earth, have in the past, and will in the future. The cataclysms are more or less traumatic, in any given cycle, depending on where the earth is positioned in relation to the comet when it comes

through. There is nothing that changes this situation.

Let us address first our goals, to genetically engineer a Homo Sapiens who carries enough Zeta Reticulan genetic

structure to be more intelligent, more telepathic, more caring, less violent, and we might add, not prone to fat. Should the Earth be a planet not prone to cataclysms, this would occur anyway. The genetic infusion would be more gradual.

At some point, we would elicit the cooperation of the populace being genetically engineered, as at some point the

general orientation of the populace would be Service-to- Other. These parents, in all likelihood, would want for their

offspring a better life. On other planets, where the transition has been made from 3rd Density to 4th Density, this has been the process.

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ZetaTalk: Time Frame

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Note: written by Jul 15, 1995

Regarding how our races will merge, and the time frame. The human race will eventually die out, although this may

take some centuries and may never be completely a fact. How will this occur? After the cataclysms life will be

difficult to sustain. As in times past, where healthy animal strains became extinct, there is a massive die-off and a

struggle for the survivors to feed themselves. Reproduction requires a healthy mother and a lack of food or undue

stress will cause a natural abortion. Infants are delicate after birth, and the environment they require will not, in the main, be around during their early days. Thus, the come-back will be slow.

Add to this our endeavor. We are increasing our collection of genetic material, even given the requisite that this needs to be gathered along family lines, for the braiding effect. In addition, the environment we can provide, for our Service-to-Other communities, will be safe and healthy. These will be protected communities. The general human populace,

here and there, will establish such communities for themselves, but not in great numbers. Where we, the full-blood

Zetas, are living communally with humans, or where our hybrids are living communally with humans, the genetic

engineering will continue. The races will thus merge, over time. Some humans, today, are being born with Zeta

genetics, but not to the degree that our hybrids contain. Thus, the human race, in the Service-to-Others communities

where the Zetas or hybrids live, will in and of itself move toward a hybrid condition.

Will the human race not again flourish outside of these Service-to-Other communities? Recall that there will be a

separation by orientation, increasingly. As humans who have not decided their orientation die, they will move to

another planet to continue their deliberation. As humans who are Service-to-Others die, they will find themselves

reincarnated into our Service-to-Others communities. Those humans who are Service-to-Self, even in the best of

times, have difficulty continuing themselves. Nurturing is almost nonexistent. As those with this orientation die off,

they are not reincarnated onto Earth, but will move on to a planet with their chosen orientation.

Thus, eventually, perhaps within 100 years or what you might call a generation, the Earth will be composed of Service-

to-Other communities. Some will be strictly human, but will begin interacting with the other communities,

intermarrying, and will thus merge. Others will be a combination of full-blood Zetas who will not be continuing,

hybrids who will be reproducing, and humans who will be gradually gaining Zeta genetic material.

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ZetaTalk: Hybrid Colonies

Note: written Apr 15, 1997

The merging of our hybrids with humans is often viewed by humans in the same light as the merging of two human

cultures in human society today. Using such models as Columbus discovering the Americas or the failure of divergent

cultures to assimilate, they imagine hybrid colonies entirely separate from human society warily eyeing each other

from a distance. In human society Islamic and Christians do not merge, Asians and Africans do not merge,

industrialized and primitive cultures do not merge, so how could aliens and humans merge! In the Aftertime, several

aspects of the setting will be different:

Following a severe pole shift such as is anticipated to occur this time, human society itself is discombobulated.

Cultural assimilations are resisted in part because the dogma and traditions are firmly in place and habits are

strong. There is resistance and a reluctance to change. Where dogma and traditions are the least concern,

assimilation is not blocked.

Assimilation is encouraged where one group or the other stands to gain a commodity or protection greatly

desired. Trade between China and Europe was facilitated because both wanted commodities the other offered. In

the Aftertime, desperate groups of human survivors will be eager for contact as they will be suffering from

nutritional deficiencies, hunger pangs, and festering injuries or intractable diseases that were formerly curable in

times so recently in their memory.

Self centered motives that hinder assimilation will be steadily decreasing as entities who are undecided or firmly

in the Service-to-Self orientation migrate to other worlds following the death of their human bodies. In today’s

human society, the leader of the group likely to lose influence and power during an assimilation resists. It

matters not that the followers may suffer. Most leaders in human society are in that position because they desire

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