ZetaTalk: Hybrid

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The Zetas talk about What are Hybrids and Why Hybrids are being produced from a combination of Zetan and human genetics; how this is not the First Time Homo Sapiens has been genetically engineered; whether Non-Zetan Hybrids

are being produced; how the hybrid program is in operation only in the Good Old USA but Special Children are being born worldwide; how there is a Cataclysm Link to the pending Pole Shift; what the Time Frame is; why many abductees report that the Zetas seem to be Stepping Up the Pace; why isolated Hybrid Colonies will develop; and how

Intermarriage with humans the hybrids consider their Team Mates will eventually occur. The Zetas talk about how the hybrid program runs in the Family Line and why are there No Elderly in the hybrid program but there are sometimes

Prebirth Agreements; how abductees are sometimes given a formal Introduction to their offspring; how they feel about the Pregnancies that they lose or resent their lack of Custody Rights; what the Father Donors experience; why

Extended Families are unlikely to occur, and how the Zetas Cherish Children.

The Zetas talk about Engineering Techniques; what fear stands behind recent Cloning Bans; how Genetic Diseases are

being corrected but we will not have a Perfect Body; what part Recessive Genes play; how there will be Basic

Similarities and Physiology Differences but desirable Human Traits are being continued; how there are indeed Zeta

Emotions, but there is an Evolution Impact, and a remarkable Zeta IQ, so the hybrids going to be smarter than their Earthly parents; why the hybrids are not exactly In the Middle; why the goal was not what we would call Beautiful

Bodies; and how the 90's Model has arrived in spite of the difficulties the Proto-Hybrids experienced. The Zetas talk about Where They Live and When We Can Meet the hybrids; that Full Blood Zetas will still be around but humans may become an Endangered Species; how there are Hostile Humans resentful over Who's in Charge; that resentful humans spread Disinformation; that the hybrids are not to save a Dying Race although there are Zeta Clones; and that some humans assert False Hybrid claims.

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ZetaTalk: What are Hybrids

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ZetaTalk: What are Hybrids

Note: written by Jul 15, 1995

The hybrid form is neither human or Zetan. The advantages to humans of being promoted to a hybrid form are many.

Briefly, they will be more intelligent and more telepathic. Certain human problems are being screened out - the

tendency to become obese; the ability to become enraged beyond all thought of the consequences; the short life span;

and the need to consume large quantities of food, requiring gassy periods of digestion and flatulence and frequent

defecation. Trust us, we have included the goodies. Your sex life will not be diminished in your future life times. Your

ability to dance, feel the rhythm, and feel the sensuous luxury of warm water or silky fabric will not be diminished.

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ZetaTalk: Why Hybrids

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ZetaTalk: Why Hybrids

Note: written by Jul 15, 1995

The Earth is about to become a home for entities in the next stage of spiritual development, or density. Those entities

currently in human form who have made their choice for Service-to-Self will eventually leave the Earth, and those

who have made their choice for Service-to-Others will remain. Those entities who have not yet chosen will be

transported elsewhere when their current incarnation ends, to continue their deliberation. The earth is to become a

home for incarnations in the Service-to-Other orientation. If you wish, you may relate this time to the heaven on earth

foretold, or the thousand years of peace. This time will neither be a heaven or for a thousand years, however.

And why have we chosen the Earth? Are there not many planets that are habitable and do not already have intelligent

species resident? Habitable planets, with vacancies, are not in great abundance, and competition for them is keen. The

Earth is due for a Transformation to 4th Density, which is our current density, and humans are genetically similar to

Zetans, so hybrids merging the characteristics of both Zetas and humans can give entities with a background in either

species a familiar home.

Our hybrid program is to create a new form of human which has greater mental capacity, including capacity for

telepathic communication. The human form is being phased out because it is not appropriate for 4th Density Service-

to-Others, which requires a mental capacity greater than that you currently enjoy. Those who will be continuing to

incarnate on Earth are desirous of this new form. They are being polled continuously, and voting willingly. As the

genetic engineers, we are responsible for ensuring that the specifications for a 4th Density incarnation experience in the

Service-to-Other orientation are met. We would not, for instance, bring forward violent tendencies, where blinding

rage can overtake one on a moments notice, even if the humans voting were to indicate a desire for this. Likewise, a

higher intellect is a specification, and even if humans voting were to indicate otherwise, this human vote would be

negated by the overriding specification.

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ZetaTalk: First Time

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ZetaTalk: First Time

Note: written by Jul 15, 1995

We are not the oldest visitors, as you sometimes like to call us, though we have been coming to Earth for millennia.

Our genetic engineering mission is not the first such mission on Earth. There have been dozens of such missions, each

of which has taken place over many stages, with some of these stages having millennia between them. We were

chosen for the current genetic engineering mission for three reasons.

1. Our genetic background is similar in origin to yours.

2. Where we aggressively pruned our genetic structure to remove aggression, emotion, and sexual

drives - which we considered to be the instigators in the manner in which we destroyed our world -

our genetic structure in regard to the capacity for intelligent thought and telepathic communication is

considered to be in an excellent state for 4th Density existence.

3. We have motive, as being those-who-mourn, regarding our past treatment of our own planet.

The point where the human race was first genetically engineered into its current form is much discussed. Neanderthal

Man was at one of the later stages of evolution. Why did it then take so long, and why is there so little evidence of the

earlier steps and stages? Genetic engineering takes a long time, because a creature that can live on the world they are

being designed for, and live well, must be the results. In the case of human evolution, the goal was not only an

intelligent species, but one which also had the degree of blind rage and aggressiveness to be able to live with large,

land-based carnivors. Neanderthal Man had a digestive problem and had to be totally re-engineered, with his

concurrence, into a later form of man. The reason there is a missing link is because these links are on the Moon, where

the genetic engineers frequently resided.

The start of genetic engineering goes back many multiples of the step back to Neanderthal Man. Tiny apes were

changed to make them larger, to make various parts of the brain expand, to make them dextrous, more adventurous,

etc. These were stages and steps, in each case. At each stage, the specimen was placed back on the Earth to see how it

fared, whether the experiment worked or was tinkering required. In most cases, tinkering was required. Should every

change to tried at once, there would be a muddle and a mess. The specimen would fail, and die. So changes are done

in stages.

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ZetaTalk: Non-Zetan Hybrids

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ZetaTalk: Non-Zetan Hybrids

Note: written Oct 15, 1996

The reality is such in human society that any couple or in fact any single person who wishes can have an offspring.

Human society attempts to control this by laying down rules about who can marry whom or dictate the number of

children a couple should bear, but in reality the sex urge drives the process, followed closely by the urge to become

parents. Individuals who break the rules run the risk of ostracism or physical punishment, but even forbidden racial

mixing occurs, surreptitiously. This is not the case during genetic engineering, which only proceeds after a long

evaluation period and is a deliberate intellectual decision and right granted by the Council of Worlds. In many cases a

genetic engineering project involving the merging of two species is followed closely or even overlapped by additional

genetic engineering to bring in selective DNA from a third or fourth species, but in most cases it is simply upgrading

one intelligent species with DNA from another with desirable traits.

For the Earth at this time, the Zetas were selected to be the species, as we have explained. Our selection was not

simply due to our genetic compatibility, our having an iron based hemoglobin for instance, but was due to our

emotional control. Humans are almost ruled by emotion at times, not only by blind rage which can cause them to

slaughter their loved ones in a fit of jealousy or frustration, but by fear. Fear can cripple humans, taking control of the

mental processes with a flood of images on what might occur, so that a palpitating heart or weak knees and mental

ruminating on what might happen engross the human. As we have explained, fight or flight emotions were necessary

for survival on Earth, due to the number of large carnivores here, but during 4th Density such defensive emotions are

not needed for survival.

No other alien species are participating in the development of a hybrid species, not by contribution of genetic material

or as genetic engineers, as the traits desired - high IQ and greater emotional control - are traits we have in abundance.

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ZetaTalk: Good Old USA

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ZetaTalk: Good Old USA

Note: written by Jul 15, 1995

The hybrid program we, the Zetas, are involved with is not underway throughout the world. The reasons for this are

territorial, among what is termed aliens, or entities from worlds other than Earth. These matters are addressed by the

Council of Worlds, where the various endeavors underway on Earth are laid out and agreements among the alien

groups as to how humans will be affected are administered. As the saying goes - too many cooks spoil the broth. The

hybrids being developed, which encompass the best qualities of both humans and Zetas, will in the future be the

incarnation home for Service-to-Others entities from throughout the world as well as North America. North America

holds, as the melting pot of the world, genetic material from all the Earth.

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ZetaTalk: Special Children

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ZetaTalk: Special Children

Note: written Oct 15, 1995

Human children have been born with a small percentage of Zeta genetics since the 1950's. In these cases the entity

scheduled to incarnate into the infant has given a pre-birth agreement and all caretaker parents are consulted. However,

the entity to be incarnated calls the shots in this matter.

While in our hybrid program we are seeking more of a 50/50 blend, with the best of both species preserved, the

gradual infusion of Zeta genetics into select human children has been a tiny percentage, 3- 5% during the 1950's

through the 1980's, and moving to 10% in the 1990's. The Zeta genetics chosen were for the purpose of research, to

determine under full stress conditions how certain genetic engineering approaches would work. Therefore, any two

volunteers would not have the same traits. To all intents and purposes the children born prior to the 1990's looked and

acted 100% human, slight changes to their digestive, circulatory, or nervous systems not enough for their parents or

doctors to even take note of. However, our careful monitoring of these volunteers has given us a wealth of information

which can be applied directly to the hybrid program. All future Earth inhabitants have thus benefited, and this point

has not been lost on our volunteers.

Starting in the 1990's this program went into the next stage, as the Zeta genetics inserted into the embryo are not

primarily for the purpose of research but are to position capable young people where they can assist with the

Transformation. These special children are being born all around the world, to parents highly motivated to protect and

nurture them. In these situations both parents and in some cases the whole extended family must be firmly in the

Service-to-Other orientation and whole- heartedly with the program. Anything less than this is a risk to the child, as

these entities do give evidence of their genius level IQ and other differences, which we will not enumerate here, to

those close to them.

Intelligence can be hidden, when the child is wise to the dangers about, where other characteristics could give them

away, if known. Is the quiet child a genius or failing to understand? Hard to tell. And genius children do not

necessarily perform well at school. Einstein, for instance, was thought to be retarded. In fact, he was bored into non-

participation, a common reaction of mentally gifted children to the stagnant routine where all must learn at the pace of

the slowest student. These children all have heightened telepathic abilities, and thus instinctively know whom they can

trust. Their placement throughout the world is such that they could never be located by humans wanting to murder

them, to slow the Transformation, or use them for their own ends. In addition, they are under our protection, and by

the Rules of Engagement aliens in the Service-to-Self orientation cannot interfere. You may deem this a type of

Unlimited Engagement between the entity incarnated and ourselves, life long.

These children are destined to become leaders during the troubled times ahead, and are working for the good of all

human survivors of the coming cataclysms. They should be viewed as the missiles of love and assistance that they are,

not as freaks.

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ZetaTalk: Cataclysm Link

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ZetaTalk: Cataclysm Link

Note: written by Jul 15, 1995

There should be no confusion between the coming cataclysms and our goals. They are not related. The cataclysms are

something that happen regularly to the Earth, have in the past, and will in the future. The cataclysms are more or less

traumatic, in any given cycle, depending on where the earth is positioned in relation to the comet when it comes

through. There is nothing that changes this situation.

Let us address first our goals, to genetically engineer a Homo Sapiens who carries enough Zeta Reticulan genetic

structure to be more intelligent, more telepathic, more caring, less violent, and we might add, not prone to fat. Should

the Earth be a planet not prone to cataclysms, this would occur anyway. The genetic infusion would be more gradual.

At some point, we would elicit the cooperation of the populace being genetically engineered, as at some point the

general orientation of the populace would be Service-to- Other. These parents, in all likelihood, would want for their

offspring a better life. On other planets, where the transition has been made from 3rd Density to 4th Density, this has

been the process.

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ZetaTalk: Time Frame

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ZetaTalk: Time Frame

Note: written by Jul 15, 1995

Regarding how our races will merge, and the time frame. The human race will eventually die out, although this may

take some centuries and may never be completely a fact. How will this occur? After the cataclysms life will be

difficult to sustain. As in times past, where healthy animal strains became extinct, there is a massive die-off and a

struggle for the survivors to feed themselves. Reproduction requires a healthy mother and a lack of food or undue

stress will cause a natural abortion. Infants are delicate after birth, and the environment they require will not, in the

main, be around during their early days. Thus, the come-back will be slow.

Add to this our endeavor. We are increasing our collection of genetic material, even given the requisite that this needs

to be gathered along family lines, for the braiding effect. In addition, the environment we can provide, for our Service-

to-Other communities, will be safe and healthy. These will be protected communities. The general human populace,

here and there, will establish such communities for themselves, but not in great numbers. Where we, the full-blood

Zetas, are living communally with humans, or where our hybrids are living communally with humans, the genetic

engineering will continue. The races will thus merge, over time. Some humans, today, are being born with Zeta

genetics, but not to the degree that our hybrids contain. Thus, the human race, in the Service-to-Others communities

where the Zetas or hybrids live, will in and of itself move toward a hybrid condition.

Will the human race not again flourish outside of these Service-to-Other communities? Recall that there will be a

separation by orientation, increasingly. As humans who have not decided their orientation die, they will move to

another planet to continue their deliberation. As humans who are Service-to-Others die, they will find themselves

reincarnated into our Service-to-Others communities. Those humans who are Service-to-Self, even in the best of

times, have difficulty continuing themselves. Nurturing is almost nonexistent. As those with this orientation die off,

they are not reincarnated onto Earth, but will move on to a planet with their chosen orientation.

Thus, eventually, perhaps within 100 years or what you might call a generation, the Earth will be composed of Service-

to-Other communities. Some will be strictly human, but will begin interacting with the other communities,

intermarrying, and will thus merge. Others will be a combination of full-blood Zetas who will not be continuing,

hybrids who will be reproducing, and humans who will be gradually gaining Zeta genetic material.

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ZetaTalk: Stepping Up the Pace

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ZetaTalk: Stepping Up the Pace

Note: written by Jul 15, 1995

After the cataclysms the majority of the Service-to-Others humans due to remain on Earth will require new housing, so

to speak, and our task has been to provide sufficient infant hybrids at that point in time. We are rushing at this time to

meet that goal. Therefore, the number of hybrids are numerous.

How are we stepping up our hybrid program? Is everyone having sex all the time, and popping babies out yearly? Are

we using genetic engineering techniques, such as in-vitro production, where our genetic sampling is sufficient to go

into mass-production? Neither is the case. The hybrid program has yet to be allowed to go into automatic, where we

can let nature take its course. We are still braiding the genetic thread, correcting flaws with insertion of missing DNA,

and working around the clock on these issues. Because of the large heads, due to increased intelligence, and smaller

hip size, due to our Zeta Reticulan contribution, infants are not carried to term by the mother. This is not, technically

speaking, necessary. Infants within the mother are close to her heart, but infants developed outside the mother can be

sent our love too. We expect to use a mixture of techniques, as we do today.

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ZetaTalk: Hybrid Colonies

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ZetaTalk: Hybrid Colonies

Note: written Apr 15, 1997

The merging of our hybrids with humans is often viewed by humans in the same light as the merging of two human

cultures in human society today. Using such models as Columbus discovering the Americas or the failure of divergent

cultures to assimilate, they imagine hybrid colonies entirely separate from human society warily eyeing each other

from a distance. In human society Islamic and Christians do not merge, Asians and Africans do not merge,

industrialized and primitive cultures do not merge, so how could aliens and humans merge! In the Aftertime, several

aspects of the setting will be different:

Following a severe pole shift such as is anticipated to occur this time, human society itself is discombobulated.

Cultural assimilations are resisted in part because the dogma and traditions are firmly in place and habits are

strong. There is resistance and a reluctance to change. Where dogma and traditions are the least concern,

assimilation is not blocked.

Assimilation is encouraged where one group or the other stands to gain a commodity or protection greatly

desired. Trade between China and Europe was facilitated because both wanted commodities the other offered. In

the Aftertime, desperate groups of human survivors will be eager for contact as they will be suffering from

nutritional deficiencies, hunger pangs, and festering injuries or intractable diseases that were formerly curable in

times so recently in their memory.

Self centered motives that hinder assimilation will be steadily decreasing as entities who are undecided or firmly

in the Service-to-Self orientation migrate to other worlds following the death of their human bodies. In today’s

human society, the leader of the group likely to lose influence and power during an assimilation resists. It

matters not that the followers may suffer. Most leaders in human society are in that position because they desire

power and control, have ruthlessly secured it, and have no intention of being anywhere but on top of the heap.

Service-to-Other leaders have the welfare of the group, not themselves, as their priority.

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ZetaTalk: Intermarriage

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ZetaTalk: Intermarriage

Note: written by Jul 15, 1995

Under normal circumstances, intermarriage brings to the genetic table only those genes possessed by the parents. At

best the parents might hope for a throwback, a child whose genetics reflect an admired great- grandparent or ancestor

whose recessive gene was finally allowed to express. At worst, the parents might find the worst of both parental lines

expressed. It's a toss of the dice. However, when we refer to intermarriage between hybrids and humans, there are

several implicit assumptions in place. First, if a human is in contact with the hybrids, they are of the Service-to-Others

orientation. They would wish the best for their offspring, and accept the offer of what you term in vitro fertilization to

provide this. It is the genetics of the parents, plus. The marriage is an emotional bond, a helpmate situation, an

opportunity to care for young mutually planned and hoped for. The marriages are everything humans expect from a

marriage, and result from the same circumstances of young people being attracted to each other, for all the various

reasons.

Would not the hybrids be marrying down, due to the IQ difference? Being Service-to-Others, they have no desire to

see any of the group suffer. As we have explained, there is no them and us in a Service-to- Other group, there is only

we. How would it be, to cast the humans in one corner, telling them to spend time with each other, while the higher IQ

hybrids grab center stage? This, of course, is so often played out in the human arena that it is no wonder that this

would be the first thought of any reader. However, the Service-to-Others react in an almost opposite manner. The

handicapped come first. The slow are given every assistance. We stand in each other's shoes, and do not do to one

what we would not want done to ourselves. At the same time, in a high tech environment, there is plenty of

opportunity for intellectual stimulation. How much of this can you stand, before you need to go for a walk or go out

for a beer. We, the Zetas, are not all that much different, nor are the hybrids. Plus, married folks of the future will no

more be bound to each other every moment of every day than the married folks of today. Where humans come together

for different reasons, so will the citizens of the future.

There is an additional reason for wanting to spend time with full-blood or mostly humans. The hybrids are a mix of

genetics, and we, the Zetas, can really only surmise what it is like to be in a human body. Those entities who have

incarnated repeatedly into humans, and we are speaking here of native terran entities born on this Earth, have a deep

knowledge of human genetics. The hybrids will, in many cases, be incarnated Zetan entities, who are new to human

genetics. By a marriage, the Zetan entity in a hybrid body will better know him or herself. The human partner is in this

way a source of fascination, a way to know oneself better.

Note: below added during the Jan 11, 2003 Live ZetaTalk IRC Session.

The hybrids today are a mix of DNA from their parents, Zetas, human ancestors in some instances, and reparative

DNA where needed. The hybrid child certainly has many parents, in this regard. Those Special Children who have

been born among human society with Zeta genetics as well as human genetics are carried by the human parent.

However, the egg and sperm are mixed, in a test tube kind of setting, and then implanted back into the mother. The

necessary party here is the mother, who can arrive on a space ship for a visitation, a visit to her gynecologist so to

speak, with a ripe egg just released into her oviduct due to what humans often call a "baby-maker" love making

session, as well as sperm aplenty in her vagina. The egg is removed, the sperm removed, the geneticists do their work

and reimplant the fertilized egg. In similar manner, in the Aftertime, the parents of a pending child having given the

Call for their offspring to have the best life possible, the mother would be treated in this fashion after sex between the

human parents. At some point, when humans and hybrids are living together, intermarried, and the concept of large

brainy hybrids as children is not foreign, incubation for the latter part of the pregnancy would not be in utero. These are all matters subject to being delayed, or expedited, depending upon the readiness of the humans involved.

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ZetaTalk: Team Mates

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ZetaTalk: Team Mates

Note: written Mar 15, 1996

In anticipation of the roles they will assume during and following the coming cataclysms, the hybrids are increasingly

being introduced to their human peers - those in the Service-to-Others. They answer The Call along with the troops of

full-blood Zetas who have been hard at work in this vein for decades. Following the cataclysms many humans who

have been working behind the scenes with hybrids will encounter them, and begin working side-by-side during the

chaos as though there were nothing strange in a hairless, telepathic, slender race of men suddenly appearing in the

neighborhood. In response to humans in the Service-to-Others giving The Call, hybrids, full-blood Zetas, and these

humans confer, plan, parse out work, review progress, and all with scarcely a moment given to ponder the strangeness

of the situation.

Humans will join our communities after the pole shift, primarily those of hybrids though we all live together, in small

numbers at first, and in isolated places. Those humans already know who they are, and are anticipating this in their

plans. These humans must be highly Service-to-Others, meaning they are almost exclusively willing to sacrifice

themselves for others if the situation calls for it and is deemed important enough. These humans must also have a

strong track record of being able to deal with the unknown, the gray area, without causing others about them to be

distracted to attend to them. These humans must be able to focus on a mission, and achieve it, to be part of the hard

working team they will join. As an example, look to Nancy, as she has had such an invitation extended to her.

Many humans are highly attuned to a role in the Aftertime. They can encounter other humans without alarming them.

They may be known personalities, in fact, welcomed. The human form, the human personality, is ideally suited for

work assisting with other humans in the Afterime. A gift of one of our batteries, which never wear out, for instance,

would be explained by an human, where an alien might have to just leave it on the steps, knock on the door, and run.

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ZetaTalk: Family Line

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ZetaTalk: Family Line

Note: written by Jul 15, 1995

The hybrid program runs along family lines. When combining genes from a human with Zeta Reticulan genes, there is

some unfortunate loss. This loss is recaptured in subsequent efforts. This is not unlike a braid, where the strands are

woven back in. The braid is stronger than loose hair or twine. Another way of thinking about this is to say that the first

effort is rough hewn. Subsequent efforts fill in the chinks. We have the capacity to go back in time to capture genetics,

if we require. This has been granted to us, from the powers who oversee our work.

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ZetaTalk: No Elderly

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ZetaTalk: No Elderly

Note: written Sep 15, 1995

Where visitations have been going on for eons, it is only in the past few decades that the pace has been dramatically

stepped up. The hybrid program, started in concept just after the turn of the century and put into full force only during

the later half of this century, has only recently been part of the program. Collecting genetic contributions, sperm and

ova, began with a few select individuals early in this century, and based on what we learned about compatibility and

desirable genetic traits, we started the program in earnest. Pre-birth agreements on participation in the hybrid program

were made so that humans born in the 1930's on would be available to the hybrid program. We also were able to

include those already incarnated who gave The Call, but these were few in proportion to the need. Therefore, as the

hybrid program began in earnest around 1950, among participants in the teens or twenties, the participants are now

either youths, young adults, or middle aged - but are not elderly.

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ZetaTalk: Prebirth Agreement

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ZetaTalk: Prebirth Agreement

Note: written Nov15, 1998

Prebirth agreements are relatively rare as this represents an interference with the normal progression of spiritual

development. The priority on Earth is for young souls to have every opportunity for their lessons. Lessons are chosen

carefully, and are based on the young souls need. The fact of the Transformation is considered the concern of the

adults, outside of the school room at present. Thus prebirth agreements have only been allowed to intrude as we

approach the Transformation, within this last century, but as the Transformation progresses they will become

increasingly common.

Our hybrid program, for instance, has been granted permission to institute more prebirth agreements than in previous

centuries, where it was close to nil, because we need to ensure cooperation with those who hold genetic parentage.

Without a prebirth agreement, its a toss of the dice on what might incarnate into a piece of genetic material, the babe,

and that babe choosing not to cooperate with our hybrid program. So we have certain key DNA parcels, the babes,

incarnated with prebirth agreements without too much hassle. Those who have a prebirth agreement become aware of

it at a fairly young age. They sense something different, and become fully aware of it when the time is right.

Nonetheless, they cooperate with this prebirth agreement remarkably well.

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ZetaTalk: Introductions

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Note: written by Jul 15, 1995

Nancy has been introduced to one of her dozen hybrid children, a son, and to many of his offspring. She has

documented these encounters, and we will let her documentation speak to this issue.

Begin Nancy's Hypnotic Recall

I was about the age of 19. I think I hear something in the living room. I go out to check. I keep expecting to see those

little guys. I go down and go in through the dining room and the pantry through to the kitchen to see. I see one of them

in the kitchen, right where the door is where you come in at the side. He's just standing there. I think he's

communicating, "We want you to come with us," or something like that. He doesn't seem to be real decisive about this

and I hear something outside that sounds like a little crunch on the snow. I reach for my coat and I put that on. I just

seem to have light colored pants on, kind of baggy. We didn't wear jeans in those days, we wore baggy pants all the

time. I look out and go out with them into the cold. It feels cold out there now, because I've been sitting around

watching TV. He's going down the stairs, ahead of me. There's only about 3 or 4 stairs there, concrete, going out

toward the driveway. He's going out sideways, along the house, and we walk side by side toward the driveway.

On the other side of the garage there was more open space and some trees, and no house for some ways. I see

something. This one's not one of those 12 footer jobs, this one's 100 feet, much bigger. It still has that basic saucer

shape, and it's dark gray. I'm following a little bit behind him because I don't know which side. He goes along the

bushes where we're between the garage and the ship. We go underneath the ship. It's not on the ground exactly,

although I did hear a crunch sound. There's a little stair thing, 3 or 4 steps that drop down 10 or 15 feet off the center.

It looks like a thin chain running where you'd put your hands. It's a guide, a hand rail that would disappear. I'm

glancing up in there and it's all dark, but he wants me to go first. When I get up in there I see the lights are on, on the

inside. It's a room, a center room, 30 feet across but not the full size of the ship. There's half a dozen Zetas in there. It's not formal, they're just milling around. The walls are an off-white, not the usual grayish color. Well maybe it only

looks grayish if the lights aren't on, because a lot of times, when they had these 12 footers, it was during the day and

there wasn't that much need for lighting because the door was open.

I'm very curious. There doesn't seem to be any kind of an agenda. I get the feeling that the door and the little stair

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have pulled up behind us. I have no idea if we're in motion or not, if we've lifted. I have the notion that we have, but

it's a very gentle liftoff, just a slow rise straight up. I've got my hands in my pockets and I'm looking around. Nobody

seems to be paying any attention to me. There's an archway at the side, to my right, and a couple more of them come

in. It seems to be a cluster, and I see a little one among them, his head is just above their knees. I can't actually see

him because he stays right in the middle of that cluster. He doesn't hang back and he doesn't lead out in front, he's

always right in the middle. I just notice that some of those little legs are smaller than the others, and he's got little

pants on. With the Zetas they're just skin and bones and that's it. You don't know if that's their skin or their outfits. But

he's got little, light colored pants on, slightly baggy, and a little shirt, slightly baggy, and a little dark colored belt,

almost black, thin, maybe an inch wide. His head is very white, and it doesn't have the gray colors that theirs do.

Looks more round rather than the way theirs look, the tear-drop shape. His is more round all over.

They come out into the room and he stays right in the middle of them, for safety. I'm very curious about this. Then

they stand still, and I step sideways to my left a step or two and put my hands to my knees, bending over a little bit to

get a better look because he won't come out. He averts his gaze. He just keeps staring at the middle of my shins or at

my knees. He won't look up. He's just tiny. His head would come just above my knees. He doesn't look like a little

child, with a big belly. He's almost as skinny as they are. He's got his little hands in front of him. I'm saying something

like, "What's your name." I'm introducing myself.

I sit down on the floor and I don't look directly at him. I look off to the right, and he's looking off to the left. I sit

down on the floor, and I unbutton my coat. I sit cross-legged. I'm talking the whole time about clothes, about how I

have pants on too. And then he comes up a little closer. He's at my left shoulder about 8 inches away, looking at me.

As long as I'm not looking at him, and I'm looking off to the right and talking, he lets himself come up. He's checking

out my clothes. I think that's what he's doing. Checking out my pants. I'm saying that I wear pants. I take off a shoe

and show him my foot, that I have toes. I show my hand, that I have fingers. I pull my pants leg up to show him that I

have a knee, and a leg. I'm just nattering on. He kind of walks down toward my leg, staring at my calf and checking it

out. I figure he's curious. I shuck off my coat to show him I have elbows. He's practically on top of me. I'm going up

into the hair of my head and I lean my head forward to show him what the hair is. I pull it to show him that you can

pull it and it doesn't hurt, that it's attached and what it looks like on the scalp where all those little things spring forth.

Then I think I show him my ear and I close my eyes and I open my mouth. I've got my eyes closed because I figure

that opening my mouth might frighten him. I put my own fingers in my mouth and touch my teeth so he can see I'm

not about to bite him. And I feel this little finger, a little touch, like he wants to touch something too. I've got my eyes

closed so he won't be shy.

Then I hear one of them say, "This is your son." So then I open my eyes and I look up. I'm asking how old he is. It

seems like 3 1/2 years. He doesn't have any hair. His head looks like it's all rounded and white. It doesn't look real

hard. It's got dimples here and there. Our skulls are smooth, so I wonder if there's bone under there. Maybe there's just

brain. He has tiny little ears. They're very small. His eyes are hazel colored and they don't have any whites. His

eyeballs are bigger than ours. I don't look at his eyes directly. His eyes are downcast most of the time, or his head's

down most of the time, so I don't really get a full face look at him. He's got slight little bulges over the eyes, not

eyebrows, just the smooth part with a hint of a bulge above the eyes. I ask where he lives, and they say, "With us." I ask, "Why are you doing this?" and they say, "We have to, we've got trouble, and that's why we needed you." They say, "He's turned out well, and he was very curious about you." I'm asking him, communicating telepathically, "Is there anything else you want to know?" He's staring at buttons and things like that. I'm thinking about things like pets,

furry pets and kittens. I wonder what kind of toys they have. They say, "He has a very stimulating environment." I ask,

"Will I see him again?" They say, "Perhaps, if you both want to, we can arrange it." I get the feeling that it's time for me to go. I tell him he's, "Very sweet, just a little doll, so curious." I tell him I thought he turned out well, too. I guess I'm a little teary.

End Nancy's Hypnotic Recall

Begin Nancy's Account

I've recently met my hybrid son, now grown. He's not prone to fat, is bald, and still has his large, beautiful eyes. He

can only make noises, not words, with his mouth, such as "Um humm". As would be expected, he communicated

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telepathically. I was told he could eat. He said he has no name, but as part of the genetic program, he has a number.

How many kids does he have - 141 and counting. I met some of them. They look much like their father, but are of

both sexes with some in pants and some in dresses, so no cloning, I guess. My hybrid son had 5 fingers, but the little

finger was only about an inch long and looked weird. Some of the kids had a proportional little finger, and the Zetas

explained this was being "smoothed out" in the cross-breeding. I noticed that the kids joints are not as mobile in all directions as Homo Sapien joints are. The kids are curious and active, and don't shy from touch.

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ZetaTalk: Pregnancies

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Note: written Sep 15, 1995

Our emissary, Nancy, participated in the hybrid program during her teens and early twenties, and will tell the story

from the contactee's viewpoint.

Begin Nancy's Hypnotic Recall

I had a favorite spot. It was on a creek. They had built a stone wall where the creek took a bend. It would prevent

erosion. You could sit on that stone wall and look on the water, and the big trees were all around. Some trees in front

would block the road a little bit. There were places in there I would walk where it was really deep woods, and most of

the time you would never see people. I looked out over water, where you could see something in the distance, and

made a connection, make a mental connection. I would stare into the water, or look across, and go into a relaxed state,

try to reach out to the universe, try to understand the universe. It seems like Junior High. I almost felt impelled to go down into those woods a lot. I'd walk down. There was a way you could drop down from the streets. I'd walk home,

walk down to the woods, drop down to the woods, and walk around in there.

It seems these guys always come up from behind and never in front of you. It feels almost like a draw, like being

pulled backwards, against gravity, like you were a magnet, being pulled backwards and upwards, like something

grabbed you from behind the shoulders and was just drawing you up. The ground was falling away. I don't feel any

particular fear about this. I think it was because whatever happened in the woods, I trusted. I had great trust in Nature.

I didn't think that anything natural was evil, and if this was happening in the deep of the woods then it had to be OK, it

had to be natural. It feels like the ground is falling away, 20 or 30 feet, and it made me just a little bit uneasy. It seems

like something dark gray enclosing now, and a clank. I heard a clank, almost darkness, and someone tapping on my

shoulder. I see something, out of the corner of my eye. This person's bigger, though, it seems to be a bigger size, same

physique but taller than the others. He says, "We're here again." I think he checks my forehead lightly. I have this scar.

He brushes my hair. He says, "We have to talk to you, about the universe. Do you know where you're going? We're all

connected to the universe." It's all interrelated. We're all interconnected, intertwined.

He wants my palm print. I press my palm into something. I still think I have pigtails at that age. It seems they're

checking out the trunk of my body. I don't seem to have breasts. It seems they're checking how I'm growing or

something. I almost get the feeling I'm getting measurements taken, around the hips, like when you take measurements

at the doctor's office, bone structure mostly around my hips and rib cage. I don't seem to have any clothes on, but I'm

standing up. I think he's saying, "We have a problem." They're very grayish colored, and they're thin, like a thick broomstick. It seems like that to me. Even their bodies, almost like a thick broomstick. They don't seem to have a lot of

substance. Or maybe they're like a post, but the arms and legs are like thick broomsticks. Very, very gray. No color.

I'm noticing mine so much thicker than theirs are. He says, "We have to work together. We need each other." That's

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what he says. I have to share his worries. Something about the universe that's a concern. We're all interconnected.

There's this connection. Something one has to worry about, feel responsible about. Not responsible out of guilt but

responsible like you ought to do something about it, you ought to be concerned. It's got something to do with the whole

universe. We're all part of this together.

I'm thinking about how we always slept with the windows open and the frogs would clang out in a constant chorus. I

liked to sleep in the front bedroom where I could hear the frogs. I could sleep in there alone most of the time. I have a

little bit of a feeling of anxiety about something now. I'm very vividly remembering the open window, how it was

screened in. You fixed those things from the outside, you didn't put them on from the inside. The point is, the house

wasn't real secure. I have some memory of being in that front bedroom where I could hear the frogs chorus, and

something is going on with my belly. It's mildly disturbing. I thought that he had come through the window but I don't

think he actually did. I think he just appeared in the bedroom and I assumed he came through the window. It was

mildly uncomfortable, but other than being a little anxious I don't think I was concerned. The bed clothes were pulled

back and he was checking out my tummy. It's like poking, like they do to check to see if your appendix is sore, poking

around, but it doesn't seem to be a big deal. I remember the sound of the frogs, waking up and finding that there was

somebody standing there. This was that taller person, not the little guys that were smaller than me at that age. This guy

was slightly taller than me and he's standing there.

He'd come to check on something, I think. It was a status check. I get up and follow him out of the house, because the

house was open. There was a door there in the parlor that you could open. You could go out on the porch. The whole

area was very remote. We were at the end of a street. Dark, in the middle of the night. I get up, in my nightgown, and

follow him out the door and slip down the street, because the swamp was right across the street. We didn't go toward

the barn. We went down where the trees were very dense and there was a drop off. I was just following him in my

little nightgown. I remember one time when I went outside and I explained it to myself that I just went out to check

the night air or something like that. Well, maybe it was behind the chicken coop. There was sort of an open area there

right behind the trees. He came to check on something. There's a reason he was checking on something.

I'm very aware of my pelvic area, the heaviness that you feel when you're going to have a period, where there's

congested blood and the body is holding more water, and the organs there are feeling a little sexier just because of the

fact that they're engorged. I have to get onto something. I'm thinking of the term bidet, where you straddle it from a

standing position. You're not laying down prone at all. There's all this heaviness in my pelvic area. I have a little

cramping now in my stomach, the same sort of sensation when you have menstrual cramps, when you're first starting

your period and it's first breaking through the mucus block so that the flow can start. Cramping a little bit and feeling a

release of pressure. In other words the pelvic inflammation or engorgement is lessened and at the same time the

cramping stopped. I don't think too much about that. Somehow it doesn't seem to be a big deal, certainly not as bad as

throwing up because you're sick to your stomach. It's not anything even in that ball park. It just seems to be a very

small thing. I don't think anything about it. I walk back. This time I come out the gate of the chicken coop and come

back in the same back door, like I'm worried about getting yelled at, having been out for a walk. I'm not supposed to

do that. It's all very dark, everybody's asleep. I just go back to bed.

In those days, if I was having my periods, it was with tampons. If I didn't have a normal period I wouldn't have

thought much of it. It seemed my mother just left me to myself, as far as having periods and things like that. I can

remember times when I though I was supposed to have a period and I didn't, just that kind of cramping that happens

naturally anyway. I wouldn't have said anything to my mother, because I wouldn't have thought anything was wrong.

I do remember, when I was [19 and working at a resort for the summer], that my stomach was slightly more than flat.

When I went back [home] I went to see a doctor because my periods had stopped. By that time I had already had a

period, one started after I made the appointment. He said it was normal for women to stop if they travel or work hard

and the like, so I though nothing of it. I was a virgin, and the thought of pregnancy never crossed my mind.

End Nancy's Hypnotic Recall

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ZetaTalk: Custody Rights

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ZetaTalk: Custody Rights

Note: written May 15, 1997

To those contemplating the hybrid program while not actually participating in it, the fact that the humans with parental

interests are kept virtually apart from their offspring seems cruel. They hear emotional stories of mothers holding

babies they instinctively recognize as theirs, where it seems the babes are torn from their mother’s arms to be returned

to emotionless alien nurses standing at the side. Those who actually participate in these dramas understand the

underlying framework, and where they may be expressing emotion, they do not express rage or even resentment,

though perhaps some sadness.

Those who participate in the hybrid program are doing so because they agreed prior to their birth, prior even to their

next incarnation being selected, to participate. They understand the situation, that their hybrid children cannot live on

the Earth in human society at this time. They understand the rich and loving environment their hybrid children are

being raised within. Being solidly in the Service-to-Other orientation, they do not wish to remove their offspring from

this environment to be placed in a human setting where they in all likelihood would be maimed and killed and taunted.

Custody rights over the hybrid children is not an issue of the true parents, but becomes an issue with those who are

inserting themselves into the drama, outsiders as it were. In that they scarcely understand the many factors at play, and

most certainly don’t understand the resolve and commitment made by the human participants, they are not even armed

with the facts.

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ZetaTalk: Donor Fathers

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ZetaTalk: Donor Fathers

Note: written Dec 15, 1996

In keeping with their tendency to share personal experiences and seek emotional support from others, most reports

from contactees who are donors to the hybrid program have been from women. These reports describe how the women

who were donors were checked frequently to determine when they were about to ovulate or had vaginal procedures to

extract ova or implant the zygote or remove the fetus after the few weeks that it remains in the donor mother’s womb.

Donor mothers are also the partner who report meeting their offspring, highly emotional encounters where longing and

regret at the necessary separation between mother and child are openly expressed.

Where is the father in all of this, the male donor? In fact, the donor fathers have equally compelling experiences with

their offspring, and physical procedures to relate. The reason fewer reports emerge from the donor father is due to a

conflict between the father donor role and what human society perceives as the male role. In human societies the male

is the one in charge, the one who does to others, including the woman, not the one done to. This perception goes beyond the sex act, it permeates human society and the roles assumed by males and females. Males lead, they give

orders, they make the decisions, so the role they experience as donor fathers is utterly out of keeping with what they

have been told since boyhood is their proper place.

Father donors are examined as to their health regularly, and undergo sperm extraction at a time when the donor

mother’s ova is ready. Unlike the usual male sperm donation in human society, where the male is presumed to have

selected his bed mate and the time and place of a sexual encounter as well, donor fathers in the hybrid program chose

neither the mate or the time or place. To add to this insult, they are in the passive position when giving the donation. A

cup is placed over their genitals and the sexual response generated through mental influences solely. There is no

physical stimulation, and thus little pleasure. Where donor fathers are as willing to participate as the donor mothers,

when back in human society this is not the kind of experience that gets loud discussion in the locker room. Thus, not

much is heard about the donor father’s experiences.

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ZetaTalk: Extended Families

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ZetaTalk: Extended Families

Note: written Jun 15, 1997

Contactees participating in the hybrid program by contributing genetic material are introduced to their offspring on

occasion for a number of reasons. Primarily this is because they both wish to meet each other, a simultaneous desire.

As humans cannot be contacted by aliens unless the human gives The Call, and as The Call dictates the nature of the

visit, a desire on the part of the contactee to meet his or her offspring must be present for any introduction between the parent and child to occur. Likewise, we do not force a hybrid to meet the eager parents if they decline the invitation for

whatever reason. Most do decline, and thus the rarity of introductions.

Hybrids are for the most part entities who have been living in 4th Density for some time, and are volunteering for

difficult duty due to their sense of purpose and desire to give Service-to-Others. They are focusing on the future, on a

situation where numerous human souls who have known nothing but life on Earth will be reincarnating into hybrid

bodies. This will be an adjustment, though not a wrenching affair, for these new arrivals into 4th Density Service-to-

Other existence. Like all major adjustments, this one is expected to meet resistance. Human souls, who may dominate

the future hybrid group by their numbers, will be pressing for a return to old and familiar ways. Rather than integrate

into an existing 4th Density community, the force of numbers may incline the 4th Density community to integrate into

a memory of what human society was like.

Thus, the target community is kept firmly in mind, and interaction with humans contained at the point where human

culture and history is studied, but does not become such a loud voice that it drowns out the normal song sung by 4th

Density Service-to-Others communities. Human parents become emotional when encountering offspring, and this is to

be expected. This emotion can be impelling, and sway the resolve and focus of the entity incarnated into the hybrid

body. If the entity incarnating into the hybrid body judges themselves to be subject to influence, they may and most

often do decline a request for an introduction from their human parents.

What this means for the future interaction between hybrids and their parents is that little, if any interaction can be

expected. The parent-child relationship is in the hearts and minds of both parent and child, but this fact does not

predominate in importance over the target goal of helping large numbers of human souls adjust to 4th Density Service-

to-Other existence during the time of crisis following the coming pole shift. Slightly more than 25% of the human

population on Earth are fully Service-to-Other, and as with the rest of the human crowd, most will die in the 90%

death rate anticipated due to pole shift trauma or Aftertime disease, starvation, and exposure. The human parents are

holding out their arms, but their hybrid children are looking to their future welfare when they decline interaction.

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ZetaTalk: Cherish the Children

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ZetaTalk: Cherish the Children

Note: written by Jul 15, 1995

Regarding children, and what the Zetas think about them. The Zetas reproduce by growing themselves from one-celled

biological entities just as humans do. We cherish children. This is one of the strongest ways those in the Service-to-

Others orientation can be of service. Children are vulnerable, and their motives are there for all the adults in the

vicinity to see. They are transparent. They can be touched in multifaceted places, before they have the armor of

adulthood. Those children who in this incarnation need to learn trust can be cared for without asking. Those children

who in this incarnation need to learn to share can be placed next to peers whose needs are greater than theirs. Those

children who in this incarnation need to learn confidence can be guided unabashedly by adults who applaud their

hesitant steps. Children represent an opportunity, and this opportunity should not be lost.

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ZetaTalk: Engineering Techniques

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ZetaTalk: Engineering Techniques

Note: written Oct 15, 1996

Human participants in development of a hybrid species assume that their eggs and sperm are taken so that the desired

Zetan genes can be mixed in during conception. Often female participants assume that they have been impregnated via

artificial insemination, when in fact they have had the fetus reinserted for a brief gestation period. In the main, mixing

the egg and sperm is the process, but several steps are involved.

Prior to combining the male and female strands, the strands are examined for undesirable traits such as heritable

diseases. Thus, it is not simply the fastest swimming sperm that becomes daddy, nor the nearest and most

available egg that become mommy.

After selecting the human male and female contribution, snipping and replacing occurs. In this process Zeta

genetics routinely replace certain human genetics - some human genes are routinely discarded, and some Zeta

genes not present at all in humans are inserted.

In some cases genes from an ancestor are used to replace the human genes secured from the male and female

donors. Almost invariably these are taken from data banks we maintain, but on rare occasion we are allowed to

go back in time to secure a needed sample. This step inserts and accentuates a desirable human trait.

Genetic engineering by arranged marriages has not and will not occur as part of the hybrid program. Our hybrids

participate in the hybrid program much as human participants do, by making contributions. At a much later date

marriage and the natural offspring will of course be the means that the hybrid race continues, but it is not yet ready to

be put on automatic pilot, as you say. The small amount of Zetan genetics that is mixed into the human population, as

a result of contactees volunteering to help us gather data or requesting modifications to help them in their work, does

not result in hybrid offspring. These genetics are local modifications, affecting the lining of the digestive tract, the brain neurons in a certain part of the brain, or the ability of a gland to produce a slightly different enzyme. These

changes do not affect future eggs or sperm that would be produced by the contactee.

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ZetaTalk: Cloning Bans

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ZetaTalk: Cloning Bans

Note: written Mar 15, 1997

Humans react to hearing about genetic engineering projects conducted by aliens with horror, not because the results are

horrible but because of horror stories they have been told. Are these horror stories true? Without exception, genetic

engineering experiments done by humans have been positive, not negative, resulting in improved crop yields, less

disease, and stronger off-spring. Man’s horror of genetic engineering stems from stories of monster makers such as

Frankenstein, which are fiction.

Piecing together humans from dead parts is absurd, as the difficulty in getting still living organs to successfully

transplant demonstrates. This is a continuous struggle, with the transplantee’s immune system continually

suppressed so rejection does not occur.

Selective parentage, where the best breeding bull is set among the cows or seed is taken from the highest

yielding plants, is indeed the first step toward genetic engineering, one practiced by man since he began

domesticating plants and animals.

Injecting DNA into cell structure, for adoption, is a step man has taken just recently, resulting in hope for those

crippled by genetic diseases such as Cystic Fibrosis. Here only local cells are altered, much akin to salving a

wound, but nonetheless this is a step on the genetic engineering ladder.

Snipping and replacing DNA is a step we, the Service-to-Other Zetas who are speaking to you here, have long

mastered. Should mankind learn this step, monsters might indeed be produced, but would scarcely live. Nature

herself snips and replaces DNA each time a conception occurs, with the egg and sperm coming together to make

a whole. Her mistakes are regularly flushed as natural abortions, and clumsy man would find he could do no

better.

Ancient pictures of half man/half beast creatures have engendered speculation that such creatures were created,

perhaps by the ancient gods, the giant hominoids from the 12th Planet. This is absurd on its face, as genes affect

the organism in totality, not selectively. How would a man’s arms and hands be on top, but hooves be below,

when hooves and fingernails are controlled by the same genes?

Cloning, a recent accomplishment of mankind, is nothing more than an artificially induced conception. If one

can mix an egg and sperm, creating a fertilized egg, one can insert whole DNA into an egg to produce the same

result. This is a simple mechanical maneuver, not a feat, and should not elicit fear. What is the worst that can

happen? Another like the other, which God made.

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ZetaTalk: Genetic Diseases

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ZetaTalk: Genetic Diseases

Note: written by Jul 15, 1995

Genetic diseases are concomitant with evolution. Most genetic diseases are an aberration of some biological maneuver

present in health. Auto-immune diseases are the immune response turned wrong. Obesity is a protective maneuver, to

maximize food consumption during times of plenty, gone wrong. Food stuffs do not spoil when packed around the ribs

in the form of fat. Just so, all genetic diseases, when their cause is understood, can be seen to be a normal maneuver of

the body gone wrong. These diseases are found in the animal kingdom too, and are not present in the human race for

any particular reason beyond your ability to survive in spite of these diseases. In the animal kingdom, afflicted animals

quickly die out. You protect your afflicted, allowing them not only to survive, but to propagate. In this way your

genetic diseases almost seem to increase, as though an affliction in and of themselves. This is not God's will. It is

God's will that you understand the marvelous workings of your genes, and harness their potential.

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Note: written by Jul 15, 1995

A long life, stopping or slowing the aging process or even attaining immortality is much sought after by humans.

Humans would also love to modify themselves so they can eat endlessly and not gain weight, or have prolonged sexual

intercourse until they tire of sexual climax, or have all the physical characteristics that constitute attractiveness

between the sexes, or have athletic prowess and metal acuity, and while we're at it, not go bald. However, this does not

assist in the spiritual growth of the individual, which is the aim of incarnations. What lessons are to be learned if one

is never presented with problems? What painful adjustments must be made? We have stated that immature entities

require incarnations in order to develop spiritually, and without incarnations this process at this point in their

development goes much more slowly. Likewise, without hardship, the incarnations teach little.

It is not by accident that entities are incarnated in 3rd Density into deformed bodies, or mentally retarded bodies, or

ugly bodies. Nor is it by accident that the mix of physical disabilities in a family does not result in harmony. The

father, anticipating an athletic son, gets instead one clumsy and given to baby fat that seems never to melt. The

mother, hoping for a daughter to be her companion, gets instead one feisty and rebellious. The brother, wanting never

to have to share his toys or parent's attention, finds he has a number of younger siblings and is torn between being

insensitive to them and having his way. How do we move toward Service-to-Others or Service-to-Self in these

situations? This is the lesson of 3rd Density, and if all were perfect people, lessons would only be learned when there

is not enough to go around.

Similarly, in 4th Density, there are continuing lessons, aiming toward perfecting the entity's skills at operating within

the chosen orientation. And likewise, a perfect body delays the desired spiritual growth. The physical changes being

genetically engineered into a proper physical body for 4th Density Service-to- Others existence are not aimed,

therefore, at creating a perfect body. They are aimed at the top priority aspects - these being intelligence toward the

300 IQ level, telepathy to allow complete understanding of the other, longevity to approximately a span of 400 years

per lifetime, and body parts to sustain the physical existence. These body parts are, for the hominoid, a digestive tract,

reproductive organs, limbs and digits, and sensory organs.

Imperfections will exist, as they are concomitant with life and genetic complexity. These imperfections are looked

upon, when they occur, not as a curse but as an opportunity not only to work at eliminating the imperfections, but as

an opportunity to love and support the entity so afflicted.

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Note: written Oct 15, 1998

Humans have noted, in mapping human genes, that a number of DNA links that are dormant. The number casually

noted by humans in no way reflect the vast span of dormant portions in the human physiology. Think merely of the

many human brains, in where there are frontal lobes where the conscious resides and a rear brain where the

subconscious lies that in essence do not speak to each other or are reluctant to speak to each other. How would this

evolve in normal evolution? This was forced upon humankind. There are many, many portions of the human body

which are remnants or leftovers, unused. The appendix is one. Your DNA is rift with genes which if allowed to express

would horrify and surprise humans.

The hybrids that we are creating will have many dormant genes in them. A clear example is the violent nature of

humans, which evolved to allow humans to live on a planet where large predators exist. Were it not for your violent

nature, you would not have survived past a couple of generations. We suppress that violent nature in our hybrids, yet

those genes exist. Just as you would be horrified to develop tentacles, or a gaping mouth in the center of your stomach,

with smacking lips ready to take in whatever might float by, in the future the new hybrids would be horrified to find

their dormant violent nature expressing from hidden genes.

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ZetaTalk: Basic Similarities

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Note: written by Jul 15, 1995

Humans and Zetas are alike in that we are both humanoid, having arms, legs, digits, hearts, lungs, brains, eyes, ears,

mouths. We breath, we feel pain, we have remorse, we feel joy, we enjoy kinship, we enjoy accomplishment, we feel

frustration. In the past the Zeta had offspring in the same sex-to- birth manner of humans, but now we either clone our

offspring or create a blend of genes in the test tube. Our genetics are no longer as rich as Homo Sapiens genetics.

However, the upgrading of the human race will provide a hominoid with our intelligence and telepathic abilities as

well as the genetic adaptation that humans have to the Planet Earth.

In the past we consumed food in much the same manner as humans. However, our diet was vegetarian. During the time

period when we lost our genetic richness, we also pared away our ability to eat. Some rudimentary organs for sex and

eating remain. We refresh ourselves by submerging into a nutrient rich bath of clear gel. The nutrients are created, as

you might say, in the laboratory. They are simply chemicals, developed from chemicals found anywhere in the

Universe.

Our life span is much longer than humans. However, the life span of the hybrid race we are genetically engineering

will be as long as the Zetas currently enjoy. In your Earth years, this is 400 years. We experience debility for only the

last 50 years of this span. In our culture we also do not rule against suicide. Therefore, if any Zeta finds his life

circumstances unbearable, he can end his life in a painless manner without strife.

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ZetaTalk: Physiology Differences

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Note: written Oct 15, 1995

The Zeta physiology differs from the human physiology in several respects, and this has created challenges and

choices.

It has been noted that where we have nostrils, and our breath, acrid by human standards, can be felt when in close

quarters, we don't appear to be breathing. The expansion of human lungs is visible, yet our trunks seem firm and

immobile. Do we have lungs? We do indeed, but they work asynchronously, rather than in unison, one expanding

while the other exhales, so the motion is all internal. How did this come about, that springing from the same base we

developed different breathing patterns? The answer lies in our long lean frame, which in the trunk has a fused rib

system with cartilage between the ribs for extra strength. During our genetic engineering periods those Zetas who

adapted to a longer more rigid frame by an adjusted breathing cycle survived to pass along their genetics. In fact, our

current frame only became possible because asynchronous breathing became possible. The genetic engineers went with

the flow, so to speak. Our hybrids, however, have unison breathing, but in a pinch could switch over to asynchronous

breathing - a latent capacity.

Where our current digestive system is rudimentary, having been eliminated in preference to a cleaner, quicker form of

nourishment intake via our nutrient baths, the genetics controlling digestion are a factor to be considered when

merging genetics in the hybrids. What did our digestive systems used to be, and how did these differ? The human diet

is voluminous and fibrous, reflecting the diet of the base apes that formed the human race, and in truth reflecting the

reality of vegetation on your planet and the adaptation that animals evolving on your planet were forced to deal with. If

an animal is vegetarian, and most are, they eat continuously, defecate frequently, and deal with digestive gasses. Few

animals become successful predators, an obvious fact as if all were predators there would soon be nothing to prey

upon. So humans have as their base an animal that eats masses of fibrous vegetation, daily.

We Zetas, on our world, had a different diet. Our world was not sunny and bright, and the vegetation thus not as

evolved. Mosses, bugs, algae, crustaceans, and when we ate almost nothing went to waste. If forced to eat your diet we

would digest the fiber, but would also be unable to consume enough to retrieve the necessary nutrition. In our hybrids

we have attempted to take the best of both worlds. Humans, we feel sure, would not object to less farting and burping.

We have retained the more complete digestive capabilities of the Zetas, while adjusting this to allow for the types of

foods your world offers. In the highly civilized world of the future, cultivation will focus on those foods that return the

highest nutrition. Less eating, less elimination, virtually no digestive gasses, and surprisingly constipation will not be a

concern as the shape of the bowel, being a single straight shoot, lends itself to guaranteed elimination.

The physiological work assigned to organs such as the kidney and liver is essentially the same in both Zetas and

humans, but how this work is accomplished varies. In humans the kidney works constantly, filtering waste, but in the

Zeta click in only when certain blood chemicals raise to a level requiring attention. Like the heart, which rests between

beats, the Zeta kidney rests between Zeta meals. The reason for this pacing is the more complete absorption of

nutrients in the Zeta digestive tract, placing a burden on the kidneys which then require a rest period in which to

recoup. Likewise, the Zeta liver is a workhorse that goes the distance after meals and requires a recuperative period.

Zetas who overeat get more than overweight, they get sick. Our thinness is not due solely to genetic tendencies, we

simply do not overeat. Do the Zetas store fat as humans do? Yes and no. We have this capacity but our physiology

does not make use of it ordinarily. Since we do not digest excess food without getting sick, our bodies keep all

nutrition at the ready, as a store to be used up before the next meal. No packing it away in fat cells, no saving it for a

later day. Our hybrids have the best of both worlds. They are slender because their physiology uses, rather than stores

nutrition, and their appetites pace accordingly. But should they for any reason decide to overeat, they do not suffer as we, the Zetas, do.

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The Zeta were selected for production of a hybrid race with humans in part because our physiologies are similar. Our

blood is also hemoglobin based, and where a chemist would find all the many Zeta blood components differing from

comparable human blood components in quantity and composition, the differences are not dramatic. Likewise with the

endocrine systems, which have comparable glands and functions. Here, however, there is one dramatic difference. The

Zeta do not sleep, though there are regular rest periods where activity essentially stops. This difference appeared in the

Zetas during our 3rd Density existence, when many of our number were warlike. The guard who did not sleep

survived, and thus the trait became dominant. There are blood chemistry differences in humans between the wakeful

and sleep states, but in the Zeta these differences do not appear. Our hybrids sleep, as we have found the physiology

more resilient when able to rest. However, the sleep requirements are much reduced, requiring perhaps 1/5, rather than

1/3 of the day, and the onset of sleep deprivation does not occur with our hybrids, who are able to bear through

without sleep if need be.

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ZetaTalk: Human Traits

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Note: written by Jul 15, 1995

Regarding desirable human traits. Human emotions are something we are including, along with many other

characteristics. The list would be too long to include in its entirety, but we will mention a few. Your hair and soft skin,

although we haven't had much luck with hair. Your desire for touch. The physical relationship of parents and

caregivers to young, where nursing and holding and rocking are prevalent. We hope to include the ability to nurse, and

are having luck with the desire to touch and hold. The sex drive is definitely included, and where this drive varies

among our hybrids, this is in proportion to the variance among humans, we have found.

Intelligence has been increased, as has the ability to communicate telepathically. Curiosity and creativity have also

been increased, as these are factors of intelligence. Introspection has been increased, as the tie between the conscious

and subconscious has been strengthened. It will not be so easy to discount occurrences in the future, selectively

forgetting them.

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ZetaTalk: Zeta Emotions

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Note: written by Jul 15, 1995

Regarding whether we, the Zetas, are capable of feeling love and joy, or are we cold fish. We are not cold fish. The

issue of emotion has been misunderstood. What is meant by emotion? Humans experience a range of emotion, a wide

range that they know by name and recognize and a wider range of emotions they have not even catalogued. We will

enumerate.

The positive emotions are love, which can include a sense of bonding, or a sense of affectionate possession, or a sense

of desire for the loved object. Bonding love expands to comradeship, protection of those dependent and weak,

affiliation, loyalty, and pride of association. Affectionate possession, a common form of love among the spiritually

immature, is less an empathic concern for the other than a pride of ownership. It can lead to the O.J. Simpson

syndrome. Desire for the loved object can involve love of food, as passionate consumption, or love of a sex object,

which is also so common as to need no explanation. Loved objects can also be sensuous objects such as leather chairs,

fast cars, heady perfumes, or brilliant sunsets. The list is endless.

How do we Zetas compare to humans on these positive emotions? We feel a sense of bonding, without a doubt, and in

all its forms. Affectionate possession is also possible, but in the Service-to-Others orientation this does not come to the

fore and command the attention it does in more spiritually immature entities. Desire for the loved object is blunted in

the Zetas, so that we are aware of our need for food or sex, but this is a very quiet voice. Those who wonder if the

Zeta have sex should be aware that where we no longer use our sex organs for reproduction, we still have mild

sensations in this regard. Not lacking imagination, the Zetas are looking forward to a return to a full sex life, when

incarnate in the hybrids. Affection for food is not the driver and foci that it is for humans, but we Zetas are aware of

the weakness that comes from a lack of nourishment. Thus, we feel affection for our renewal baths. In genetically

engineering the hybrids, we are not including a compulsion for food stuffs, with consequent obesity.

The negative emotions are primarily control, with a desire to negate or diminish any factor that removes the entity

from primary control of the environment. As we have detailed earlier, the human as well as Zeta entity, at birth, is

vulnerable, and seeks to be the center of attention. Insecurity drives this. The entity oriented toward Service-to-Self

cannot let go of this, and this becomes an all consuming passion. But in the average human, torn between orientations,

this drive only comes to the fore on occasion. Loud interruptions of discussions, demands that contenders be removed,

threats against those moving into one's territory, and threats toward those formerly under control. All this is all too

familiar to humans. The desire for control leads to an emotion of glorying in control, that of wallowing in power. The

power mad go to many extremes, from making others go through hoops to torture and daring to do the most atrocious

acts.

How do the Zetas compare to humans on these negative emotions? A certain amount of desire for control is normal to

an independent entity. Control in this regard means that the entity has physical security, knows that they won't be

blown away imminently, and that they will be fed and housed in a temperature controlled and environmentally stable

place, and this type of issue. The Service-to-Other Zetas do not feel a strong drive toward being the center of attention,

rather focusing this toward satisfaction on being of importance to others, in their needs. We do not go on power trips,

nor do we miss this emotional trip, having given this up long ago in our determination to be Service-to-Others.

We, the Zetas, are increasing emotion into our lives in several ways.

As our hybrids, whom we care for and interact with intensively, have a full capacity for emotion, we are

experiencing this as observers. We also observe human emotions, invariably, during our contacts with humans.

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our physical bodies allow.

As each of us evolved in Zetan bodies before we blunted our emotional responsiveness, we have spiritual

memories. These are reactivated.

We can act as walk-ins on occasion, to experience this during our current incarnations, full force. We are

requested to be walk-ins when certain functions are to be performed that the incarnating entity want done, but

does not feel they have the wherewithal to do. We are welcomed in for the occasion, and get a full blast of the

human emotion spectrum, especially as situations where a temporary walk-in is welcomed are not without

emotion. They tend to be the damp palm, pounding heart kind of situation, where the stakes are high and the

anguish great. Are our emotions similar? Speaking from experience, very much so.

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Note: written during the Jan 25, 2003 Live ZetaTalk IRC Session.

It has been much discussed, in the aliens-are-evil dialog, that we, the Zetas, lack emotions. This is stated along with

supposed reports on aliens eating human body parts, or planning mass landings and a takeover of the planet, or

implanting for control purposes to create drones, or whatever. There are differences between ourselves and humans,

much discussed in the Hybrid section of ZetaTalk, where we detail this aspect of emotions and sexuality as well as

physiological differences such as lungs and digestive tracts. Do we have emotions? Yes. Do we have sexual feelings?

Yes. Are these greater than human emotions and sex drives? No. Why the difference? We evolved on different worlds,

under different stresses and selective determinants.

The Earth, as we have stated, is a particularly violent world, large carnivors on every continent, so that many can

scarsely be free of this worry, day or night. Big cats, wolf packs, immense bears, sharks, and thus to survive, the quick reaction to attack or danger was emotion. What do you suppose fear, or anger, is? Does an evolving creature need this, per se? It is to incite action, and the stronger the emotion, the faster the action! Likewise, a mother's concern for her baby, a dominant males concern for protecting and retaining his harem, are survival related emotions. The passive

human got eaten, the human with strong emotions survived and passed on their genes. A strong sex drive is likewise

selective, as those males with a strong drive would fight for their harem, where those with a weak drive would turn

their backs and let the harem get eaten! A sex drive in the female is also survival selective, as the horny female will

stick close to the dominant male, get intimate often, and thus enhance the bond and desire on the males part to protect

her, as well as keep her close to the protector.

We have stated that on our world, the worlds within Zeta Reticuli which we evolved on, there were no large

carnivores. We were transplanted there, as described in the Early Zeta write-up, onto worlds that could do no more

than evolve moss and bugs. Thus, our large eyes are for seeing, in very dim light, which is what life on those worlds

entailed. Thus, sex was for procreation, and the process of natural selection more related to cunning, being able to

figure out how to solve problems, how to create technology or extend a food supply, than brute force or rage.

Likewise, emotion was not only not required, it was a disruptive element. It would never evolve, and if it expressed

due to genetic mutation, then this Zeta was less likely to have a harem than another, so was selected out during sexual partnering. Our hybrids, as we have stated, will have the emotional range and sex drive and variation that humans

have, not our more limited range. This is because the Earth is our new home, the home of the hybrids, and these

characteristics are native to the Earth. In addition, as we have stated, strong emotions are in keeping with 4th Density

Service-to-Other cultures, and strong sex drives are likewise a bonding element. Thus, we don't wish not to have these

elements in our future lives, we have engineered them into our futures!

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ZetaTalk: Zeta IQ

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Note: written by Jul 15, 1995

Our IQ is higher than yours, and also different. You will observe when comparing your intelligence to this or that

animal, that some things relate and are similar, and some things are radically different. Consciousness is one such

difference. The Chimpanzee is clever, can learn sequences and apply a certain amount of logic. They use tools, in a

limited manner. However, they aren't conscious in the same sense that you are. They do not ponder their immortality.

They do not ruminate about their guilt. They do not wonder why the stars move about in the heavens in the manner that

they do. Most particularly, they do not think about how they relate to the larger scheme of things. They are not

conscious of themselves as an entity. There is no soul entity that abides in the Chimpanzee, except for fleeting

moments at best, and this an incarnation out of curiosity more than anything else.

Just so, the IQ and intelligence of a 4th Density entity is different from that of a 3rd Density entity. As 4th Density

Service-to-Other entities we are vastly more telepathic. Those 4th Density entities that have chosen Service-to-Self are

not vastly more telepathic from humans, as they find telepathic awareness of each other a distressing distraction from

the business at hand - the self. In comparing our increased intelligence, numbers alone do not describe the situation.

Where your mind carries on dozens of thoughts simultaneously, ours carry on thousands.

You are unaware of most of the thinking your mind does. You are only aware of the conscious thought at the front of

your mind. Yet parts of your mind are concerned with sensing distance around you, the need to shift your position,

sensing the body language of others around you, calculating your physical hungers and plotting how these will be

satiated, etc. In terms of IQ, should we Zetas take one of your IQ tests, which measure speed and accuracy, we would

measure around 287 IQ points. However, as we have explained, this is not an adequate measure.

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ZetaTalk: In the Middle

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Note: written Dec 15, 1996

Being in the middle, presumably halfway between Zetans and humans, how do the hybrids differ from either of the

genetic contributors? Since the genetics were selected, rather than randomly allowed to have an impact, the influence

from either contributor is no 50/50.

In the area of intelligence, Zetan influence dominated. A true 50/50 would have resulted in an IQ increase to a

point much below the resulting hybrid IQ which is equivalent to the current Zetan IQ. In this matter there was no

compromise.

In the area of human violent tendencies there was also no compromise, as these tendencies would be an endless

source of grief in a 4th Density Service-to-Other community.

In the matter of sexuality, the genetic choices of the engineers invariably leaned toward the human contributors,

as the current intensity of the sexual bond experienced by humans was deemed compatible with a Service-to-

Other existence.

In the area of appearance, the hybrids have characteristics of both contributors - the bald head of the Zetas but

the five fingered hand of the human, the large eyes of the Zetas but the eye color range of the humans, the tall

height of the Zetas but the supple spine and expandable chest of the human.

In the area of longevity, the hybrids will share the long life of their Zetan contributors.

In the area of nourishment, the hybrids will eat and defecate as their human contributors, but with less reliance

on huge fibrous meals and the tendency to suffer intestinal gas.

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ZetaTalk: Beautiful Bodies

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Note: written Apr 15, 1997

You have a saying - beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Thus a life form that is covered with protective slime and has

an odor that humans would equate to rotten eggs is beautiful to others of that life form, where the human body would

be considered ugly. The attraction one human feels for another is composed of many factors, most of which are

genetically programmed to ensure survival of the species.

Sexual attraction has been analyzed by human scientists to demonstrate that the female form is most attractive to

males when the hip-to-waist ratio indicates that the female is not pregnant. Likewise females find strong and

forceful males sexually attractive, as this represents a potential father who is capable of defending a pregnant

mother heavy with child.

The urge to hug is but an extension of the infants instinctive clutch to its mother for safety and to prevent

abandonment when the mother quickly exits the vicinity to escape danger, and the urge to kiss has its basis in

the suckling instinct also necessary if the infant is to survive past infancy.

Bodies with sculpted muscles are considered more beautiful than those with flaccid muscles as this is an

indication of health, just as is a lack of bad breath or clear skin. A human body covered with sores has the same

outline and stance as if it were without sores, but is considered ugly due to instinctive genetic programming to

protect the self from communicable disease.

Thus the bald, skinny, and relatively uncurvaceous bodies we have developed for the hybrid form will look beautiful to

others with this same form, where they may even find the full-blood human body slightly ugly. All that smelly hair

getting in the way and hanging in front of one’s eyes. That cumbersome curvaceous body that bumps into things as

they pass. How ugly!

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ZetaTalk: 90's Model

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Note: written Mar 15, 1996

Where earlier phases of the hybrid program had as their goal dealing with basic requirements like digestion,

reproduction, and intelligence, our recent goals have addressed details like appearance, the senses, and memory.

Skin tone has been improved to where it is neither a reddish blush or a pallor, and as we could not perfect a proper

head of hair, we went in the other direction - hairless. Far better bald than with a strand here or there. Breasts are

small, but functional, a high priority goal of ours due to the bonding that occurs during nursing. The sex drive in the

hybrids remains as varied as it does in the human animal. Sight and sound reception is closer to what the Zetas are

capable of, vastly higher ranges than humans have ever experienced, due to our dim Sun and relatively inhospitable

planet. Those who could not peek through the gloom or follow a faint sound simply did not survive to reproduce.

Where the human animal has many memory levels - short term, long term, subconscious, conscious, and others

unknown and thus not labeled by humans - the target hybrid has a cohesive memory, much like the Zetas. Having

perfected our 90's model, we are now into mass production, as the cataclysms are fast approaching.

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ZetaTalk: Proto-Hybrids

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Note: written Dec 15, 1995

Prior to beginning the hybrid program in earnest, we did preliminary experimentation. We knew that the Earth in all

likelihood would vote to become a home for those in the Service-to-Other orientation. We knew that if this occurred

that the Zeta genetics, being compatible with humans, was a strong candidate for hybrid production. So we prepared

ourselves for the task ahead, some thousands of years ago. Our early attempts were failures and died in infancy due to

nutritional problems. Soon our proto-hybrids were living into adulthood and data gathering was in full swing.

Incarnation into the proto-hybrids was on a volunteer basis, as some distress was anticipated.

Nervous system difficulties arose and were corrected early, where the brain portions either communicated too

effectively or incompletely with each other. For those proto-hybrids, life was a perpetual bad trip, as you say -

too much noise and not enough comprehension.

Sexual dysfunction showed up not as lack of interest in sex but as infertility, though this was not personally

distressing to any of the proto-hybrids.

Lack of hair, in a hairless Zeta community, was also not an embarrassment, but the sporadic hair that appeared

on some of our proto-hybrids was a source of consternation. Imagine facial hair spaced every few inches rather

than close together and thick. We found this type of hair distressing enough to those born with it that genetic

engineering leaned toward hairlessness as the lesser of evils.

Our tiny mouths and small teeth did not line up well with human genetics in all cases in our proto-hybrids either.

At times tiny teeth in a big mouth, at times big teeth in a tiny mouth.

Digestive problems were continuously smoothed, and are still being addressed. Early proto-hybrids had many

nutritional problems which required supplemental nutritional aids. Many of our problems were due to the high

standards set by ourselves regarding digestion. No farting, no burping, no fainting from low blood sugar, and no

tendency to get fat. We have achieved our goals in this regard.

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ZetaTalk: Where They Live

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Note: written by Jul 15, 1995

Our hybrids are not resident on Earth, and this is for various reasons. For one, they are numerous. The numbers reflect

our need to meet a point in time when many entities, which you call souls, will need an opportunity to incarnate. We

are gearing up for this time, increasing the number of hybrids, and the quality of the hybrid as a physical container of

the soul, so that the number of infant hybrids available will match the number required when then time comes.

Our hybrids live in pleasant surroundings, and want for naught. We, the Service-to-Others Zetas, attend them with all

our means. Life is not grim. Each hybrid understands the mission, and engages in it with joy. Each hybrid has

incarnated by choice, choosing this mission. It is like a long journey with many trials, but undertaken with a group of

friends well liked. There is, in fact, a sense of adventure. The physical location of these enclaves of hybrids is not far

from your Earth. We are right next door, within your Solar System. We have taken up residence where the

gravitational field approximates that of Earth, living in 4th Density on the surface of Mars. As such, we are not visible

to you in your current 3rd Density state.

Note: below added during the Jan 7, 2003 LIve ZetaTalk IRC Session.

Our hybrids are living in many places within your solar system, close at hand, as well as elsewhere nearby in other star

systems. They are souls who have graduated to 4th Density spiritual existence, and as such as allowed to live in 4th

Density physical existence, a preferred mode over the heaviness of 3rd Density physical existence. We are allowed to

move freely on and off the planet, no longer restricted by our agreement the old MJ12, now defunct, to report to them

when such movement on or off the face of the Earth occurred. As 4th Density can co-exist with 3rd Density, there is

no issue whatsoever! Clearly, as our hybrids as well as ourselves expect to be in 4th Density on the future Earth, we do

not want our bodies to become accustomed to a lesser gravity. And as no part of the Earth is in 4th Density at present, we are primarily in residence outside of the solar system, in another nearby star system, where a commensurate planet

in 4th Density is available to us. Relocating to Earth is a simple matter, involving:

1. setting up residences which have already been constructed and can be relocated, intact, and quickly so;

2. selecting a spot on Earth which is previously uninhabited, such as the newly warming Antarctica, or new land

emerging from the seas;

3. establishing a gravity field under the residences or city, such that we do not lose our adaptation while resident on Earth.

Since travel is quick, most will remain off the surface of Earth until closer to the physical transformation to 4th

Density. But as some ambassadors will be perpetually busy interacting with humans, some will assume their new

residences shortly after the shift, within days, and remain. Those humans who come to live with hybrid communities,

to the extent that they are fully integrated and not having daily tentacles out into the human society around them, will

be living in 4th Density with the hybrids and ourselves and our brethren in the Service-to-Other orientation. They

would not be invited to live with us, or transported, unless firmly in the Service-to-Other orientation, so this is

appropriate, an early graduation of sorts. If these humans are daily interacting with the neighborhood, such that density

switching is not convenient, then we expect that the hybrids or ourselves or our brethren assisting and living with these

humans would share the heavy life in 3rd Density, a minor sacrifice to assisting the Transformation, in our view.

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ZetaTalk: When We Can Meet

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Note: written by Jul 15, 1995

The hybrids are not to be presented to Earthlings at this time, due to the Rule of Confusion and the Rule of

Incarnation. The Rule of Confusion requires that you of Earth not be aware of the final outcome of your habitation

here on Earth, until you have determined your orientation. To know the outcome of the struggles you are observing

would be like knowing the end of a movie or book. It spoils the viewing or reading. It would also influence unduly

your actions and decisions. The Rule of Incarnation requires that you not focus on your next incarnation until the

appropriate end of the present. Do not dally with your future wife until your first is dead. Complete the lesson to be

learned in this present life before entering, if only mentally, into the next.

Will our hybrids take up residence on Earth, after the cataclysms? But of course, in Service-to-Other communities.

This will be selective and cautious, and in most cases human societies, as much as they can function after the

cataclysms, will be unaware. Some of our hybrids will live alone, or with us, the full- blood Zetas, and in some cases

will live also with humans. Do not think, because the hybrid program has not been formally introduced to the public by

your government, that our hybrids have not had social interaction with the citizens of the United States. This is

occurring, and your government is aware of it. In these cases, familiarity has not bred contempt, but has created a great

sense of relief for all concerned. We do not anticipate acceptance to be a problem. Imagine what must have occurred

in Europe when the first African or American Indian arrived. Imagine what occurred in China when the first European

arrived. Life goes on.

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ZetaTalk: Full-Blood

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Note: written by Jul 15, 1995

Full blood Zetas will continue in other parts of the Universe. Some of our Zetas reflect their genetics unaltered except

as evolution has affected them. They reside on planets that for one reason or another did not conduct genetic

engineering - they did not know how, chose not to, or were failures at it. Your human culture, for instance, is only in

the preliminary stages of understanding the human genome. But even if you were to grasp the concepts, your culture

has great resistance to being engineered, in great part because of the strong Service-to-Self elements in your culture

who would distort the purpose of such a program. Due to the wide variety of Zeta types, there are no characteristics

that could be called out to distinguish the unaltered Zeta. There are several such Zeta types, all more dissimilar from

each other than they are from altered Zetas types.

Some entities have indicated a desire to remain in their home galaxy, in existing Service-to-Other communities, and

this desire has been granted. They will continue as is. Other Zetas have migrated to other planets and galaxies, for one

reason or another, and will continue to reproduce themselves there, as need be for continuance. The full-blood Zetas

on Earth expect to migrate into hybrids, along with humans. We have a vested interest in having the hybrids be as

delightful an experience as possible. The Zeta have not, in their past genetic engineering, merged with another

hominoid race. This is one reason our learning curve has been so steep, this past half century, while developing a

Zeta/human hybrid. As these hybrids carry many distinctly human traits, they are never confused with the other Zeta

types.

One should also not assume that full-blood humans will die out entirely either. This almost never occurs during species

transitions, especially when a certain level of intellect is attained. There may be Service- to-Other groups on Earth

composed entirely of humans that continue, isolated, and content with their level of intellect, for instance. There will

be Service-to-Self entities, taken before their human form is terminated, who will be human on other planets. This

occurs frequently in the Service-to-Self orientation, as surviving infants are hard to come by in this orientation.

Nurturing is rare. Thus, those choosing this orientation often are required to keep their current incarnation.

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ZetaTalk: Endangered Species

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Note: written by Jul 15, 1995

Given the population explosion, why wouldn't the human race be back in business in a hurry after the cataclysms?

Three reasons:

A high mortality rate, where babies won't survive, and the birth rate will be less than zero. So far less, that the

replacement will be almost nil. Combine this with the dropping fertility of the potential parents, and this will be

devastating. Even though you may have many potential parents among the survivors, after 25 years of a nuclear

winter, worldwide, most of these parents will be past the point of fertility, or at least the mothers will be. Robust

fertility, and infant viability, will come too late. This is the situation after every pole shift.

A movement of the Service-to-Others toward living with or near the high tech centers of the hybrids, where

intermarriage will occur. With high tech food production and medical treatment, babies do survive. Lest one

assume that these Service-to-Other humans are being sexually enslaved in order to live, or some other such

nonsense, bear in mind that the Service-to-Others orientation is not coercive. Intermarriage is something that

occurs naturally when young people live near each other. In addition, if the parents of humans give The Call for

their youngsters to be born with greater intelligence, genetic material will be available at the point of conception,

just as it is today in some cases. As we have mentioned, there are humans being born today with Zetan genetic

material, who are part Zetan, and they appear and act quite human. Just so, in the future, the genetic makeup of

the human race will migrate in this direction. This has happened in the past, and this is why you are not, as they

say, swinging from the trees!

A tendency of the Service-to-Self to eradicate themselves, and each other, especially as the controls which keep

those so inclined in check will be missing. How long would the violent and unscrupulous population inside a

prison live, if left entirely to their own inclinations? With increasing polarization of the orientations, the Service-

to-Self will go off on their own, rummaging through the wreckage and living off what others have lost. This

kind of existence works when there is a perpetual source of goods to plunder, but as these types do not plan or

put themselves out, they will find themselves suddenly without. Suddenly without clean water, any food at all, or

the wherewithal to warm themselves until morning. They die.

But what about the mixed groups, who will be given the knowledge of how to feed and cloth themselves from the

Service-to-Other groups or the hybrid communities. Will they not pull through? Some will raise children, and these

children will marry or in any case produce children, but life will be rough. The point we are making here, is they will

not thrive. The Service-to-Other communities, and our hybrid communities, will be thriving. As incarnations are to be

given to those entities operating in the Service- to-Other orientation, new children will migrate to the thriving

communities. This would happen anyway, as the young go where they see opportunity.

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ZetaTalk: Hostile Humans

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Note: written by Jul 15, 1995

The hybrids do not need the hostility they would receive here on Earth at this time. Most on Earth, or at least many, are

possessive. They are emphatic that Earth belongs to Homo Sapiens, and usurpers should leave. It matters not that they

were at one time the usurpers. The hybrids are possessed of Service-to- Others souls, who are sensitive to the needs of

others. Such raw demands would upset and confuse them. They remain away, where they can be in the company of

others of their kind, and treated fairly. Trial enough, that they are living in physical containers that are not finely tuned

at present. There are glitches in the container. Some bio-engineering problems exist. Some of our infants die young,

and others live with deformities. These issues are dealt with by intense love of one another, a joint goal of developing

the physical container to become a joyous experience, and a feeling of camaraderie and team work. Big problems,

much joy and accomplishment. Very lively times!

Note: below added during the August 17, 2002 Live ZetaTalk IRC Session.

The decision to phase out humans, as hard as it may be for those affected to comprehend, are not without input from

those affected. Neanderthal man was in agreement with having his version of mankind die out, afflicted as they were

with tummy problems not pleasant to live with. A Vote was taken, and they were in agreement. Votes that are a true

vote are not akin to the voting that occurs on Earth, publicly announced. In these votes, there is hardly a choice, the choices placed before the voters not what they would put there, but what the elite have allowed to be placed there. In

addition, actual counts, as the last US Presidential election demonstrated, are hardly what matters or to be reported

accurately. Why would Service-to-Other souls, who are the majority of reincarnating terran souls, not want their children, or themselves for that matter, to be more intelligent, less subject to disease, and have more opportunities?

Clearly, the vote went to be engineered, for future incarnations. It was a slam-dunk, as you say.

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ZetaTalk: Who's In Charge

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Note: written by Jul 15, 1995

Some humans feel they should be in charge of their own genetic engineering, or in charge of the question as to

whether genetic engineering is even necessary. This is not reasonable, although those being denied this authority may

fuss and argue. These issues were decided after much deliberation. This is not a matter done casually, nor is this a

one-time matter. This has been done repeatedly to Homo Sapiens, who are only able to complain, having a voice and

mind, because of just such a process in the past.

Do you let your child determine whether or not they should attend school? Do you allow them to determine what

constitutes a school? What about meals. Anything at all that they chose to eat, that's the meal? What about vitamins,

brushing of teeth, bedtime and necessary hours of sleep? See the point? Humans think of themselves as the adults, and

in these matters of species improvement, as adults speaking to adults. This is nowhere near the reality. Where we refer

to humans as children in our analogy, this is to point to the capacity to understand. When you, as parents or caretakers,

place vegetables before the child and are met with squawking, this is not because the child wishes to be willful or

contentious. They simply do not understand nutrition. They feel healthy at the moment, albeit because their parents and

caretakers have been feeding them vegetables and the like, and don't understand the reasons given. What does concern

over being healthy mean to one who has not been unhealthy. How can something that tastes good, such as candy, be

bad for one, even if eaten continuously.

Of course we poll humans to learn what they desire to continue, what characteristics they appreciate. Those humans

who will be reincarnating into the hybrid form, the Service-to-Others humans who have chosen their orientation, are

being polled continuously as to their preferences. They are not voting on the steps to be taken in order to genetically

engineer. You may give the plastic surgeon your desires on the shape of the nose, but you do not hold the knife. If the

characteristics humans desire is in conflict with the overall genetic engineering goals, they are overridden. This

conflict, however, is raised to the Council of Worlds, and is not one which we, the genetic engineers alone, decide.

Zetan genetics are being used as the intelligence of humans cannot be more than doubled using human genetic

structure. The best that could be accomplished is a human at the genius level, and what we seek, what we are required

to attain, is so very much higher. Telepathy, something your species can barely support, is another issue. Genetic

engineering does not make something from nothing. It alters what already exists or inserts something already in

existence. A third important issue is the level of violence in your human species. Blinding rage is firmly rooted in your

genetic heritage. To carve this out would leave too little remaining. This must be counteracted where it is found, in all

the reaches of the brain, rather than simply rooted out. The Zetan genetics are the counteractant.

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ZetaTalk: Disinformation

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Note: written by Jul 15, 1995

Regarding our interactions with abductees involved in the hybrid program. Some confusion results from mixing our

actions with others. You are familiar with the term disinformation. The Service-to-Others Zetas have been the brunt of

a disinformation campaign by Service-to-Self Zetas, who are few in number compared to ourselves, other Service-to-

Self aliens, and various humans with various agendas. This disinformation takes the form of pretending to be

conducting a hybrid program, where hybrid infants are indeed produced and then maimed or killed before one's eyes.

Were this an ongoing scam, rather than an intermittent scam, we could not talk about it due to the Rules of

Disengagement.

Another form of disinformation is rape. We do not rape your women in order to allow them to carry a tiny fetus for the

first few precious weeks. We have observed sexual interaction between humans, to learn the range and varieties of

responses. This has been done resulting from an offer, in all cases.

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ZetaTalk: Dying Race

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Note: written by Jul 15, 1995

Our race is not dying. We, the Zetas, have been incarnating and reproducing for almost 8.5 times the length of time

that intelligent humans have been doing so. And there is no end in sight. Yet where we can continue, we desire

change. Humans have many characteristics that we, the Zetas, previously had in richness - sex drive, rage, longing,

hunger. We perceived these to be a root cause of the steps we took to ruin our planet. We genetically engineered

ourselves to rid ourselves of these characteristics. In doing so we threw the baby out with the bath water, as you say.

We went too far. The richness is gone, and our life is more intellectual than physical. We wish to incorporate into our

incarnation experience the depth of sexual desire and emotional commitment that humans are capable of feeling. This

we had in the past, and we wish to re-introduce it again. Our genetic engineering did not result in the confusion that all

the many passes at Homo Sapiens have caused for your race, as we were originally a single transplant from another

world. Our unique shape has come not so much from our original model as from what we have done to ourselves.

Being focused on war, and success in the battlefield, early genetic engineering was focused at making a lean, mean

Zeta. Strong, requiring little nourishment and no sleep, and forthright.

In our past we poisoned our planet as a result of nuclear and biological warfare. Biological elements proved to be more

tenacious than radiation poisoning, and it was for this reason that genetic engineering was undertaken aggressively

when we were forced underground. At first genetic engineering was to create a more impervious soldier, but later these

skills were put to other uses - creating a pacific Zeta. Genetic engineering did not take place on a universal level

among the Zetas. Where some groups were hard at work trying to create a Zeta that could live above ground, among

the poisons we had unleashed, other groups were trying to remove what they viewed to be the source of the problem,

our warlike nature. Over time, through interbreeding, these traits spread throughout the Zetas, just as the human race,

through interbreeding, is tending to become homogeneous. In some cases the scientists trying to create a better soldier

had a change of heart, and switched over to the group trying to pacify the Zetas. The Zetas resulting from these joint

efforts proved to be most viable, and over time that model became dominant.

There are, of course, many variations on the Zeta form, and many of these are due to the genetic engineering efforts.

Line them all up, and you might be able to say that this one is the original Zeta, this one the better soldier, this one the

pacific Zeta, and in like manner proceed through the genetic engineering experiments. Some variations in Zetas come

from different environments, from living on different planets, but most come from this source. The amphibious water

Zeta, for instance, was the result of an attempt to move the Zetas into the water, for protection from the poisoned air.

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ZetaTalk: Zeta Clones

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Note: written by Jul 15, 1995

The Zeta are accused of having a group mind, seemingly operating like insects, by rote, and without individuality.

Where did these assumptions come from? First, we reproduce by cloning, so our appearance can be remarkably

similar. Second, our mode of communicating is telepathic, over the heads of humans who for the most part sense no

conversation going on at all. Third, there is a lack of argument and indecision that humans see in us when we are at

work attending to our contactees, as we have all agreed ahead of time on how to handle issues that might arise.

Humans who see us having a group mind are drawing these conclusions on scanty data.

Imagine how adult male humans would appear to an alien race encountering them only at work. There they all are in

their standard dark gray business suits, white shirts, and ties. Similar hair cuts. Beard shaved off. Carrying identical

black briefcases. Greeting each other with the standard hand shake. Clearly, this is a group mind. When the leader

speaks, the others all nod and smile slightly. They even clap as a group! The data missing from this picture distorts it.

What the alien has not seen is the gripe session over beer after work, the thoughts running through those seemingly

compliant minds, the wide range of recreational and sexual interests engaged in over the weekend, the preferences

expressed at lunch as the group argues over what restaurant to go to, and the wild bikini shorts one of their number

may be wearing even while at work, fitting in.

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ZetaTalk: False Hybrids

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Note: written Dec 15, 1995

Wanting to be part of the process, many humans imagine themselves to be an alien/human hybrid. They examine

themselves in the mirror and take note of physical characteristics that seem unusual. They take note of any unusual

talents they may have and judge this to be proof. As contactees seem to have special status without proof, why not

they? Here again we are faced with disproving the proposition, but this proposition can be disproved. Hybrids would inevitably carry genetics from both species, and though these genetics might conceivably fail to express themselves on

the claimant's external appearance, they would be instantly discernible to a geneticist under the microscope. The

human genome is rapidly being mapped, and is public record. To disprove this proposition, challenge a claimant to

have their chromosomes tested for abnormalities. To be sure, chromosomes from an alien species would be considered

abnormal.

As none of our hybrids are currently living in 3rd Density on Earth, and as Special Children are just now appearing on

Earth, claims by an adult or teen of hybrid status should be noted as false. Special children likewise would not be

trotted out for display as they are placed carefully with discretion and protection from harassment a prime concern.

Therefore, parent or relatives who claim an infant or small child to be a hybrid are false. These people are all simply

publicity seekers.

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Document Outline

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ZetaTalk: Hybrid

ZetaTalk: What are Hybrids

ZetaTalk: Why Hybrids

ZetaTalk: First Time

ZetaTalk: Non-Zetan Hybrids

ZetaTalk: Good Old USA

ZetaTalk: Special Children

ZetaTalk: Cataclysm Link

ZetaTalk: Time Frame

ZetaTalk: Stepping Up the Pace

ZetaTalk: Hybrid Colonies

ZetaTalk: Intermarriage

ZetaTalk: Team Mates

ZetaTalk: Family Line

ZetaTalk: No Elderly

ZetaTalk: Prebirth Agreement

ZetaTalk: Introductions

ZetaTalk: Pregnancies

ZetaTalk: Custody Rights

ZetaTalk: Donor Fathers

ZetaTalk: Extended Families

ZetaTalk: Cherish the Children

ZetaTalk: Engineering Techniques

ZetaTalk: Cloning Bans

ZetaTalk: Genetic Diseases

ZetaTalk: Perfect Body

ZetaTalk: Recessive Genes

ZetaTalk: Basic Similarities

ZetaTalk: Physiology Differences

ZetaTalk: Human Traits

ZetaTalk: Zeta Emotions

ZetaTalk: Evolution Impact

ZetaTalk: Zeta IQ

ZetaTalk: In the Middle

ZetaTalk: Beautiful Bodies

ZetaTalk: 90's Model

ZetaTalk: Proto-Hybrids

ZetaTalk: Where They Live

ZetaTalk: When We Can Meet

ZetaTalk: Full-Blood

ZetaTalk: Endangered Species

ZetaTalk: Hostile Humans

ZetaTalk: Who's In Charge

ZetaTalk: Disinformation

ZetaTalk: Dying Race

ZetaTalk: Zeta Clones

ZetaTalk: False Hybrids


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