date, has been buying Chinese products more than China as been buying US products, thus the glut. But if the US
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citizen, pushed to the brink on credit card debt and now facing a housing bubble burst, can no longer shop, then China
loses its glut of dollars and is no longer inclined to be nice to the US. Thus, the purchase of US bonds by China stops,
and the US debt is no longer funded in a legal manner. Low interest loans, which supported the housing bubble and
the Bush administration during its first term, are no longer being supported, as the Puppet Master has raised the rate
from the Fed, which he funds, steadily, since the 2004 election theft.
The Bush administration has nowhere to go. They can continue to raise the debt limit, until Congress begins to rebel,
and print dollars, but this approach will not last for long. If Congress rebels, refusing to raise the debt limit, then
prized Bush policies like tax cuts for the rich and the immense drain of the Iraq War will come onto the chopping
block. This, or cuts in social services so draconian that riots in the streets would result. Printing dollars also has a
steady eroding effect, which would within months manifest. Each dollar printed without proper backing dilutes the
worth of every other dollar afloat in the markets. So in addition to the rising cost of goods from overseas, due to the
dropping US dollar, the US public would be dealing with horrific inflation. Even a compliant media, told to issue
government statistics without question or comment, would not go along when the price of bread or gas doubles.
Desperate times result, the Great Depression revisited. To prevent this seemingly inevitable future from emerging, the
Bush administration hopes to intimidate Iran into giving up its oil bourse plans, thereby retaining the dollar supremacy
in the oil markets, and in particular an oil market that China uses. This ensures China bond buying, which keeps the
tenuous US afloat. Given all of this, what is likely to happen?
The Puppet Master, as we have stated, set out to decapitate the Bush crowd, to eliminate them as rogue Puppets who were determined to secure the world's oil fields for themselves, for kingship of the world. His weapons have been
primarily financial, raising the interest rates, thus creating problems at home for Bush, but leaks to expose Bush and
erode public support have also been used. These decapitation thrusts have succeeded, but what is the Puppet Masters
goal? Beyond weakening the Bush administration into virtual ineffectiveness, he wants the US out of Iraq, where it has
created a mess. As it stands, Iraq cannot settle into any kind of stable body, as the US continues to interfere. The
election has put the country into Shia hands, but Bush does not want Shia management. Nor would the Shia want US
bases in Iraq to sit on the oil fields and insure US interests prevail. The Puppet Master can parlay with Iran, and could
parlay with the eventual managers of Iraq's numerous oil fields, whether in Shia or Kurdish hands or broken into
multiple new Iraqi countries, but at present, no clear winners emerge as Bush stubbornly insists on having his way.
Thus, the Puppet Master is likely to create a financial crisis in the US to force the Congress to withdraw from Iraq, as
the tight cabal in the White House would prevent even assassinations at the top from accomplishing this withdrawal.
Dumping US dollars does not require an oil bourse in Iran, as it could occur at the request of the Puppet Master
instead. If it looks like the US is going to create a mess in Iran, by some devious means using the existing Iraq War to
spill over the borders, this is a card likely to be used.
The likely outcome is that the US will threaten and bluster, plant evidence against Iran that the US citizen and the
world does not believe, rumble tanks and planes up to the border of Iran, and there the conflict stops. There will
certainly be tense moments behind closed doors when the military is asked to take steps they refuse to take,
confrontations that will not come out in the media until later, as leaks. Support for the US debt will steadily drop, with
the US quietly going banana republic at least to some degree, while the 2006 elections take place and Congress
changes its face to a more aggressive stance against Bush. Talk of impeachment, once not dared to be uttered, will
increase, and an honest admission that Iraq may have to become several different countries in order to attain peace will
be increasingly seen as the solution in Iraq. The US public will suffer the consequences, keeping the pressure on to
stop the financial hemorrhage in Iraq that the US can no longer afford. Congress will take over, running the nation if
only by blocking Bush at every front. The military will come home, not only because funding for Iraq will be
withdrawn, but because of natural disasters that will afflict every country in the months ahead. Although this is in the
hands of man and man has free will, and thus any predictions must be predicated on this, we predict that
Bush will not succeed in invading or bombing Iran, though orders may be given to the military to do so,
will not publicly declare martial law in the US in order to dictate his ways, though may write executive orders to this effect which will be ignored by any but the tight cabal surrounding him,
will not be assassinated or impeached because the tight cabal around him prevents alternative leadership from
stepping up to the plate, but rather
Bush and those he has pulled close around him will be treated as irrelevant as the Earth changes overtake the
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attention of the nation, with the branches of government attending to emergencies and ignoring the orders the
pretender barks from the Oval Office.
Who will lead, in this vacuum? Is it assumed that the President actually leads? Government in a democracy is by
consensus, with someone pronouncing the consensus in a speech. The US will become a country where the media
identifies a spokesperson for a trend or issue and the President is ignored. Press conferences, speeches, where the
President can commandeer the TV cameras and attempt to sell the public on an idea or announce initiatives are given
by the media, as a gift, but are not mandated by law. Nor is coverage in the newspapers mandated by law. The Puppet
Master, in fact, has more influence than the White House, in this regard. Who has been a charismatic spokesperson of
late, on issues that relate? Gore, or Finegold, or Murtha, are examples, but the Earth changes that will afflict the nation
will find many new spokespersons emerging. During times of trouble, natural leadership emerges, and pretenders are
ignored.
Signs of the Times #1567
Dubya Clings to Failed Policy of Pre-emptive Strikes [Mar 17] http://www.capitolhillblue.com/
President George W. Bush clung to his doomed doctrine of using preemptive force against threats of
weapons of mass destruction despite his failure in Iraq, claiming Iran may be America's biggest
security challenge. [and from another] Petrodollar Warfare: Dollars, Euros and the Upcoming
Iranian Oil Bourse [Aug 3, 2005] The Bush administration is prepared to undertake a desperate
military strategy to thwart Iran's nuclear ambitions, while simultaneously attempting to prevent the
Iranian oil Bourse from initiating a euro-based system for oil trades. Such an event would create
pressure for OPEC and Russia to move towards a monopoly petroeuro system in an effort to cripple
the U.S. dollar and thwart the U.S. global military presence. [and from another]
http://www.infoplease.com/ Total oil production 1. Saudi Arabia 10.37, 2. Russia 9.27, 3. United
States 8.69, 4. Iran 4.09, 5. Mexico 3.83, 6. China 3.62, 7. Norway 3.18, 8. Canada 3.14, 9.
Venezuela 2.86, 10. United Arab Emirates 2.76, 11. Kuwait 2.51, 12. Nigeria 2.51, 13. United
Kingdom 2.08, 14. Iraq 2.03 [and from another] http://www.infoplease.com/ Greatest Oil Reserves
by Country, 2005 1. Saudi Arabia 261.9, 2. Canada 178.81, 3. Iran 125.8, 4. Iraq 115.0, 5. Kuwait
101.5, 6. United Arab Emirates 97.8, 7. Venezuela 77.2, 8.Russia 60.0, 9. Libya 39.0, 10. Nigeria
35.3
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ZetaTalk: Hezbollah Attack
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written July 15, 2006 on the live GodlikeProduction Radio show.
Israel was battling with Hamas in Palestine. Then another front opened with the Hezbollah in Lebanon.
Now Israel is giving ultimatums to Syria, claiming they are working with Hezbollah. Israel and the US are
even blaming Iran. Is this going to lead to WW III?
Why would Hezbollah suddenly decide to enter the fray, kidnapping Israeli soldiers and lobbing missiles into Israel? Is
it an alliance with the embattled Hamas? Was is some offense against Hezbollah, perpetrated by Israel? All seemed
peaceful until this sudden explosion. Israel has used the violence and suicide bombing done by Palestinians as an
excuse to push them off their land and retain what land they have already grabbed. The issue of Palestine could be easily solved by Israel if it were only reasonable and fair, so the matter is in their hands. What led into the situation
where Hammas kidnapped an Israeli soldier? The Hammas government was squeezed financially, Israel holding back
funds rightfully Palestine's, and Israel encouraging other nations to financially starve Palestine too. This finally
exploded, as it was expected to explode. But there was no such recent incitement with Lebanon, so what caused an
explosion there?
We have often mentioned that things are not what they seem. The Iraq insurgents creating an unstable situation in Iraq are often British soldiers, who have been caught dressed as Arabs with bombs in their cars, arrested by the Iraqi police,
and then sprung from jail by the Brits. Once incited, fingers point in all directions and the street fighting and retaliation
is assured. The Berg beheading was not done by Arabs at all, as could be seen by a simple analysis of the dress and mannerisms of the executioners. The Golden Mosque was bombed by the US, to incite civil war in Iraq, which the US
hoped would spill over into Iran, avoiding a need to get approval from a now reluctant US Congress for such a war expansion. But civil war in Iraq has fallen back to a simmer, with the new Iraqi government taking steps the US does
not want. They plan to call the insurgents resistance fighters, and give them amnesty. This would bring the Sunni
closer to the new Shia government, as partners, reducing the street fights. They plan to ask the US to leave Iraq,
entirely, with a time line established. As a sovereign and elected government, Iraq will demand the occupation end,
and has the right to rescind any oil contracts handed out to the US before they were elected. None of this is going the
way the Bush Administration expected.
Is the sudden Israeli confrontation with Lebanon incited? Look at the rhetoric from the mouths of spokespersons for
the US and Israel. Iran and Syria must stop their activities! Lebanon attacks, and now we are engaging Syria and Iran!
Just what the Bush Administration and Israel wanted! While the reluctant US military is stuck in Iraq at present, trying
to bring the troops home and slip away as quickly as possible, the Bush Administration is trying to force them into a
war with Iran. A move to invade and control the oil fields in Saudi is only a step away, with the excuse that the Middle
East is now further destabilized and the oil fields need protection. Bush and those who put him into power in the White
House are arrogant, and determined to carry out their plans. If a civil war in Iraq didn't spill the conflicts over into Iran,
then what to do? Kidnap a few Israeli soldiers, with the cooperation of Israel, and demand Lebanon produce them! Can
they do this when they don't have the soldiers? Hezbollah has been infiltrated, as one might imagine, by Israeli agents,
and why would it not? In the past it has been a major headache for Israel. This was an Israeli arranged kidnapping,
with the soldiers in the hands of Israeli agents.
How will this end? Will escalation occur until the entire Middle East is in flames, Israel using their nuclear arsenal?
One should remember that any nuclear activity in lands bordering Israel pollutes Israel too. One does not defecate in
one's own bed. The hope is that Iran and Syria will engage, will give the US and Israel an excuse so the US Military
can invade those countries. But this requires that Syria and Iran cooperate with this game plan, and that the US
Military will allow themselves to be pushed to take steps they are reluctant to take. If Syria or Iran attacked Israel, then
the ploy might work, but if they are restrained, the ploy will fail. In the meantime, Israel has weakened itself, by
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opening up a second front, battling both Hamas and Hezbollah and on both ends of the country. What will this mean
for Israel if the US if forced to withdraw troops from Iraq and go home? They've stirred up a hornets nest, and are
sitting in the middle of an angry swarm! Such is karma!
Signs of the Times #1621
Hezbollah Drone Attacks Israeli Warship [Jul 14] Hezbollah rammed an Israeli warship with an
unmanned aircraft rigged with explosives and set it ablaze Friday, after attack jets smashed
Lebanon's links to the world one by one and destroyed the headquarters of the Islamic guerrilla
group's leader. The attack on the warship off Beirut's Mediterranean coast - which left four sailors
missing - was the most dramatic incident on a violent day in the conflict that erupted suddenly and
appeared to be careening out of control despite pleas from world leaders for restraint on both sides.
[and from another] Syria calls for Hezbollah cease fire [Jul 14] http://www.jpost.com/servlet/ In a
significant move, the Syrian ambassador to London, in an interview with the BBC, called on
Hezbollah to stop firing missiles at Israel. [and from another] Israel gives Syria ultimatum [Jul 15]
http://www.ynetnews.com/ Israel gave Syria 72 hours to stop Hezbollah's activity.
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ZetaTalk: Warning
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Note: written during the Dec 14, 2002 IRC Session
We have speculated that the Scandinavian countries, such as Sweden, would warn their citizens in the week or so
before the shift. Sweden is a country that is isolated from others by water, and is limiting immigration today as it is
considered a desirable social democracy in which to live. When rotation stops, there can hardly be any doubt of our
warnings, so announcements will not be presumed to induce panic. Panic is already in place! Sweden is also in a good
position for doing right by their citizens as they have high country as well as shorelines, and already do ocean fishing.
A simply announcements, to avoid the shorelines and move upland, during the warm spring when this warning would
be issues, would not be out of line. Nor would parsing out any supplies the country has, among the hungry, directly
after the shift.
In countries where there is no upland to go to, no warning would be issued, as in India.
In countries where the elite establishment cares not for the public, such as in Indonesia, no warning would be
given as the elite are escaping to Australia, and part of their bargain is to delay alerting their populace so as to
reduce survival and hordes landing on the shores of Australia.
In countries such as Brazil, where the establishment has mixed roots to the populace and the elite, rumors will
spread like wide fires and many will flee, or attempt to flee, to safety. Such flight will meet the same fate
whether warning is given early or late, as the roadways will clog, cars break down, planes fail to take off or land
properly, and the eventual hills such desperate land upon fail to feed them for long.
Thus, is it not just the warning, but where those warned can go, and what can be done to feed or care for them
afterwards, that matters. A warning given to those who can scarcely survive is a warning that can only, in truth,
prepare the warned for death. Where survival is possible, warnings are more likely to be given.
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Note: written on Dec 15, 2001
Among those in power, which are primarily the industrialized giants and the economic giants including those in the
banking system, this is often discussed. Should the governments come clean, at the last minute, and tell the public
what is about to occur? If so, what is the moment to do so? An hour ahead, a week? This is a heated subject, with
anyone seeming too sympathetic with the public being harshly warned not to leak information, and an occasional
accidental death announced grimly as a reminder that this enforcement can and is easily used. Bill Cooper is a recent
example. He warned about inoculation plans, for Anthrax, in the past, and this brought a quick knee-jerk reaction
when Anthrax became a problem. He was out and about with a gun in his hand, having sensed this was about to occur.
Thus, his "arrest" resulted in his death.
As the earlier agreements between the US and the former Russian indicate, deactivating nuclear bombs has been in
process for some time. The public is not told just how far this has gone, so the deterrent still exists. It is far beyond the
schedule announced, as neither country wants to see itself poisoned by what it keeps in its bed. Power plants are
another matter, as to turn them off or deactivate them would be a clear clue to a watching public that something was
amiss! Thus, this step can be expected only after rotation has stopped, in the week prior to the shift. The public should
prepare for panic in the administration, such that this might get overlooked. The turn-off plans are known to many, and
access to these plants afforded to a number of individuals, such that no single individual is key to deactivating a
nuclear power plant. Thus, bringing this subject up when it is clear the shift is approaching, to those in government in
a broad setting so many ears can hear the concerns, will be the best insurance that this does occur. Nuclear power
plants will not be reactivated, due to disruption of the mechanisms during the shift. Few are constructed to withstand
earthquakes, few placed on fault lines for this reason.
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ZetaTalk: Kosovo
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Note: written on Jun 15, 1999
When you are approaching cataclysmic changes, such as will occur in 2003 [Note: see 2003 Date explanation], there are
predictable changes. As we predicted in 1995, you will have 3 years of crop failure going into the pole shift, and in
1999 you are already experiencing this. This is still, in 1999, considered a local affair, with this country or that country
having a crop failure. Primarily these are commercial operations that fail, not family gardens which are tended
carefully and watched. Large commercial operation are mechanized and therefore are more vulnerable. This will
increase, by the year 2000, to the point where this is considered devastating, and the food stores will be run through.
After two years in a row, the stores will be emptied, and the distress will be extreme. Under those circumstances, what
are people going to do?
They will migrate, their hunger gnawing at them, or become aggressive toward their neighbors whom they might
consider to be living on better land, more fertile land or with a better water source or whatever. So aggressiveness
increases, and this is one of the reasons that in Kosovo, NATO and the US were extremely aggressive and swift and
insistent in saying "you will not seek your neighbors land and drive people out, we are going to put a stop to this".
You can look for more of this in an attempt to prevent the strong-arming of the weak as starvation and want begin to
intrude into everyone's lives. The answer to this, of course, is to have your own gardens, to have your own food
development. You do not have to be rich to do this. Gardening is a time honored practice, and can be considered a
hobby among those who don't have to grow their own food. Get into it, get real, think about what you would do if you
couldn't go to the store, and this will actually, in the larger view, help world peace. So do your own part.
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ZetaTalk: SOHO
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Note: written on Jun 15, 1999
The SOHO, like many of the arms of NASA and JPL, can tell stories. They control the satellites. How do you
determine if it’s true or not? They receive the images, and they relay these to you. You don’t receive these images
from the SOHO directly, anymore than you do from the Hubble. This has long been a complaint of astronomers, as
they have turned off a direct feed so that the public cannot make their own determinations. You’re told, selectively,
what you are to hear, and there’s plenty of time between when the image is taken and the public is given the image for
doctoring and editing to occur. You’re being fed a story. There is no extra object within your solar system at this time,
as reportedly observed by the SOHO. The 12th Planet, which is approaching, from the direction of Orion in general, is
outside of your solar system, rapidly approaching but not yet within it, nor will it be until the year 2003 in the last
weeks before its passage [Note: see 2003 Date explanation] between the earth and the sun.
Why are you being told these stories? For the same reason you’re getting a lot of movies about asteroids approaching
and creating tidal waves and volcanoes erupting in Los Angeles. Why would such a thing pop up and be a complete
obsession of Hollywood? It’s been pretty steady for the last several decades - romance, foreign countries, murder and
who-done-it and all of a sudden we’re dealing with asteroids and tidal waves. You’re being educated. You’re being
prepared for something. You’re subconscious is being spoken to. They are telling you that there will be something
within the solar system that you need to worry about. The fact that they are warning you and nothing seems to
materialize is all a way of keeping society humming along while at the same time speaking to your subconscious,
making you uneasy. You are to prepare, you are to respond to this, and NASA will never be called to account to
explain to you in detail what it’s doing with these mistruths it’s spinning your way.
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ZetaTalk: Escape Plan
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Note: written on Jan 15, 1999. Planet X and the 12th Planet are one and the same.
From its inception, NASA was attempting to secure, as much as anything, an escape from the forthcoming cataclysms.
They still have that as a dominant agenda. The members of NASA and JPL who have been watching Planet X
approach in accordance with our predictions some 50 years ago, have come to nervously accept that the reality of our
exact predictions. They wish to find a safe haven during the shift itself. The thought of being on an Earth that will slip
about with sloshing water and crashing plates is unsettling. They would like a vantage point on Mars, and from that
when the rock and roll is over, they would settle down at the best looking agricultural setting in the world and walk off
well prepared to take over as kings.
This escape route would be for the elite of not only the US government and US military but other elites around the
world. This is well disguised in talk about science research in the skies and exploring the universe, but this is all to
camouflage the real plans which would be to take dozens and even hundreds of individuals away. If one examines
their recent plans, they are timing themselves very nicely to have an escape mechanism by the year 2003 to Mars [Note:
see 2003 Date explanation] with a return route. The fact that John Glen recently went up into space was to test how oldsters deal with these takeoffs and landings. This was poorly disguised, and the tax payer wondered why they needed
geriatrics in space. Well, of course, that's because some of these people who have secured a place for themselves are
not that young, and they are just getting prepared. The group will be composed primarily of old man and very young
women. It’s not surprising that George Bush, Sr. took a sky dive recently and mentioned in the news that he was not
too old for such activity. He is trying to demonstrate to his peers that he’s ready to go.
They hope to get up there and setup a base which will be of very firm, air-sealed and air-locked, tents with little suits
that they can get into quickly. They’re already practicing how to grow their own food via hydroponics. This is
something that has been going on for decades, of course, as a means to provide fresh food for those in a space station.
They are looking for water, but they know there is water there. We the Zetas have stated that fact on ZetaTalk, that the
hominoids from the 12th Planet drained the water down culverts while washing the ore they had mined, thereby
ruining Mars as a habitable planet as they removed the water from the surface. They hope to watch the show from a
distance. Watch the Earth, poor thing, lurch about. After a year or so has passed, when they can see that things have
settled down, they’ll come back down. They’ll zoom around, taking their time deciding just where to land, and will
land where there seems to be some good agriculture, some settlements, and emerge as kings. This is their plan, but
none of this will happen. They won’t succeed, but we don’t expect them to give up.
Many layers are built between the taxpayers eyes and the actual NASA expenditures. NASA is an independent
company under contract to the government, under contract in fact to government agencies that can scarcely be
scrutinized by the average taxpayer so that layer upon layer of money shuffling protects the real expenditures and plans
very nicely. National security is used as the excuse. To demonstrate how secretive these plans can be, look at how
much of the Hubble's true pictures you see. They are given out like Christmas presents, once a year perhaps. They are
given to private investigators who somehow are given the rights to direct Hubble images as though they had paid for
it, when the taxpayer paid for it. Yet no matter how vociferously complained about, this practice has continued
unabated. And this shows you the grip of control that those elites have over this whole matter.
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ZetaTalk: Mars Rovers
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written during the Jan 30, 2004 Lou Gentile Show
Has the government has made a fake Spirit-probe succesfull landing on Mars? Is this only a
propaganda? Like the Bush plans of landing on the Moon again? [and from another] What is
really going on as regards the Hubble and the Space Station?
Why the pressure to put Rovers on Mars, when the economy is tanking, homelessness of citizens is beyond the ability
of cities to assist, and money to support such ventures is lacking? It has been no secret that the elite hoped to escape to
Mars or the dark side of the Moon during the cataclysms. In this they were not relying entirely on human efforts, as
Service-to-Self aliens whom the elite had given the Call to during their obsession with themselves promised to carry
them there. Of course, the Service-to-Self lie, and the lie has lately been put to the test. No delivery, despite demands
that now is the time for migration to well-stocked and secure Mars and Moon enclaves. Despite endless failures, such
as disabled probes and the dramatic disintegration of the Columbia and a leaking Space Station, renewed efforts to put
humans on the Moon and Mars are seemingly optimistic. Why?
This is a false front, whistling in the dark, akin to a bridegroom stood up at the altar but refusing to let the family and
guests know the situation. He has a dowry to consider, wants to save face, does not want to fall in stature in the eyes
of the family and guests who will think less of him if the truth is known. So he lies about his bride, claims all is well
and even exaggerates his claims, hoping that at the last moment it will all come together again. The elite planned to
return, impressing survivors with their supposed command of technology, to rule as kings over the struggling survivors
on Earth thrown back into the cave-man days. No mention was to be made of the alien assistance they required. This is
why, despite the gapes in their technical readiness to send a manned mission to Mars before the cataclysms, the elite
have been pressing forward with their exploration and bravado. Survivors might remember that they were in the
process, were optimistic, so the story, upon return, would seem reasonable.
Are the Rovers indeed on Mars, and why has this been allowed when other probes failed? As with the Columbia,
which was torn apart upon re-entry, the message being given is often more effective when success has already been
celebrated. More than the elite are being given this message, as the message is going to the common man too. Were it
not for partial success, the common man would hear nothing of the failures. Announced as a success, celebrated, the
failures get coverage in the news.
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Note: written on Dec 15, 1996. Planet X and the 12th Planet are one and the same.
Where the race to space in the 60’s was originally spurred in part by the knowledge that the Earth was to experience
another passage of the 12th Planet in its near future, this factor is almost solely responsible for the Mars exploration
fever of the late 90’s.
Back then NASA felt they had time to learn how to establish space stations far from the cataclysms the Earth was to
undergo, and was smugly confident that the US taxpayers would be forced to pay for the personal escape route the
elite at NASA and in the establishment fully intended to use when the time came. After the Apollo 13 disaster,
retrenching occurred and the Earth itself was looked upon as the best refuge. However, it has recently been determined
that the escape routes planned for the elite on Earth are not as safe as expected. Manmade excavations at installations
such as Mount Weather are at great risk of collapsing and entombing the smug elite who rush there, slamming the door
to safety in the face of the taxpayers who paid for these retreats. Thus, a temporary safe haven on the surface of Mars
now again looks like the best bet.
In that mankind has been quarantined from encounters with the giant hominoids from the 12th Planet, as we have
explained, so that the enslavement of mankind that used to occur in the past would not be re-instituted, such manned
flights to Mars will Not Be Allowed to succeed. Quarantines are effected by subtle means. Accidents, often after a
period where success seemed close at hand, occurred. This tends to devastate the backers more than constant failure.
As mankind is scarcely able to live in space, and has not mastered maintaining mankind in this environment, there are
many obstacles to getting to and living on Mars in the first place. Thus, we hardly have to step in, as they are failing
already! But should they appear to be succeeding, technological failures will occur. The series of mishaps that occurred
in 1996 and accompanied the rush to place man on Mars are not accidents, as those at NASA are aware.
There was no reason for the failure of a solar panel on a probe to extend - a message that energy resources will
fail and freeze hapless and stranded astronauts should such forays continue.
There was no reason for a Russian probe to lose momentum and tumble into the ocean south of Australia - a
message that forays can simply be turned back at the start, should the anxious elite choose to send repeated well
stocked manned flights aloft.
There was also no reason for a jammed shuttle door, which threatened to lock US astronauts outside the shuttle
as well as in should they force the door open - a message that even simple mechanical tools were not beyond the
reach of the Council of Worlds, who imposed the quarantine and will not be toyed with in this matter.
Thus, as the anxious elite contemplate being stuck on the scary surface of the Earth along with all the taxpayers they
meant to leave behind, they will increasingly discover solutions for safety on Earth, and will embrace these. Whether
this sudden rush to arrange for safety on the surface translates into assistance for the much abused taxpayer, who is
expected to pay for these self-serving maneuvers of the elite, is yet to be seen. Where the message is that manned
space flight to Mars will not be allowed, probes that will simply explore the surface will not be interfered with. In
particular, probes that promise to further the Awakening, by exploring past evidence of intelligent life on Mars, will be
allowed. These were precisely the areas squelched in the past by NASA, so this turn of events is a bitter pill to
swallow.
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Note: written during the August 17, 2002 IRC Session
Lately NASA has had a series of setbacks, back-to-back and seemingly without stoppage. It this a coincidence, or the
hand of interference?
We have stated since the start of ZetaTalk that a quarantine exists between humans on Earth and the inhabitants of the
12th Planet, a.k.a. Planet X. The reasons for this quarantine are that the heavy hand of the giant hominoids from Planet
X, who were mining for gold on Earth, were disrupting what the Council of Worlds considers a balance in the Service-
to-Other/Service-to-Self nature of the world emerging souls are presented with. The giant hominoids were more
technologically advance than the humans of the day, who were no more advanced than Third World countries not yet
in contact with what mankind terms modern civilization. They were essentially hunters and gatherers, though
intelligent, living in huts and hunting. The giant hominoids arrived on rockets, had lasers, could ride high on personal
rockets and land at a distance, thus seemed to command the skies. Humans were terrified, enslaved, abused, and the
giant hominoids sent down for long mining missions determined to keep them there. The quarantine was imposed in
such a way that the giants did not discern that this was occurring by an outside hand. They had technical difficulties,
sudden weather that swamped their ships, attacks by carnivores on the road that were hard to explain by history and
experience, and, finally decided to leave Earth for the relative quiet of Mars.
Now, does this not seem similar to recent problems NASA is having? Technical difficulties, and among those we will
list:
1. the cracks in the shuttles, causing them to be grounded until inspected and repaired.
2. the similar cracks found in the vehicles used to position the shuttles, as takeoff and landing are touchy times and
no one wants a repeat of the fireworks caused by a simple O-Ring years ago.
3. the lost probes that went seeking to peek at Phobos, the moon of Mars being currently mined by the giant
hominoids.
4. the destruction, without explanation, of the current reputed comet chaser, Contour, which was not simply out to
check the comets reported to the public, as many suspect.
What is the reason for these disasters, outside of the quarantine, and what was the true missions the equipment
disabled were upon?
The Shuttles were disabled to make the message clear to those hoping to leave Earth, hopping to Mars or outside the
influence of a pole shift on the surface of Earth, that escape will not be allowed. We have stated this, years ago, and
now you see the force behind those words. Up until the present, the apparent accidents NASA was having were given
as warnings to them and their masters, but this message was not heeded. We and the Council allowed success, as this
tends to pull the motivations of those conducting such campaigns out where they can not only be surmised, but proven.
You might call this a form of bait and switch, where they were led to believe they could succeed, while being given
the message that accidents could happen, and not by accident. As with 911, where the Bush Administration was aware
that they were being warned, were being told just what would happen, and ignored this, likewise they ignored these
warnings. Thus, their successes were not an indication of the future, but to demonstrate their motives to all, and this
time is at an end. The gloves are off now. Do they think they will go aloft, get the space station operational as a
landing spot, and actually make Mars habitable until a return to Earth post-shift? Should this scenario be sold to the
dumb, rich, and frightened, it will no longer fly. No one save the utterly gullible would buy into the statement that
NASA can succeed, now.
It is obvious that the probe failing at Mars was disabled so that mankind could not see what was going on, on Phobos.
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Left in the dark, they could only assume no activity there. This was directed by the Council of Worlds. This moon was
chosen by the giant hominoids for its mineral composition, which is rich in Gold. Why does mankind suppose that
Gold is present only in small amounts, elsewhere, as is the case on Earth? On Phobos it was the major component.
Thus, the giant hominoids were content to mine there, and the quarantine was secure. Where the Phobos probe was
destroyed by the giants mining Phobos, this was assisted to succeed. Had they not succeeded, we would have, and
thus, it was not simply the efforts of the giants that determined the outcome. And why disable the Contour, which
ostensibly was only going out on a probing tour. This probe, as you might imagine, was not going to head for some
silly dirty snowball, but was heading straight for the beef, Planet X. There it was to report all manner of information,
destined to alarm mankind as to the habitation of this inbound planet, the technology of this inbound planet, and there
you are with mankind having their balance between Service-to-Self and Service-to-Other influences disrupted!
How would this information be used, by those on Earth, to the disadvantage of the average emerging soul? Not unlike
the movies ID4, and Signs, wherein mankind was to cling to their government, who would save them, this information would be used to allow Service-to-Self governments virtual power to do anything to their public, in the name of their
protection. Look to how the US, the Bush Administration, has used the WTC attack to attempt to remove all civil
rights, the right to trial, the right to charges made public, the right to an attorney, and substitute decisions made solely
by a handful of power mad in the White House alone. The Supreme Court acting like a Kangaroo Court, in putting
Bush in the White House. The Congress not to be saved in the event of an attack on DC, only those in the White
House considered to be important. What does this say, regarding what an even greater threat would allow? The horror
is not what is approaching, as survivors will survive in spite of being uninformed, and those in control of the Contour
information would not be any more considerate of the public's needs than they are today, during their cover-ups. The
horror is what the public would allow, going into the pole shift, should such Service-to-Self dominated governments,
who desire world domination, be empowered with information.
Thus, the probe, which would have returned information that could be used to these ends, was zapped.
Note: added during the September 14, 2002 LIve ZetaTalk IRC Session.
The trajectory was to head straight out toward the inbound Planet X, and are sorry that more firm proof of this is not in
hand, and unlikely to get in hand. Much talk in the media about Contours demise, but no discussion about the planned
path! Now why is that?
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Note: written during the October 19, 2002 IRC Session
We have mentioned that the US Space program, intent on getting man to Mars so the elite can ride out the pole shift
there, has been sabotaged as a means of quarantine. It is not just the US program, and there are a number of reasons
for this, which we will list:
1. The giant hominoids from the 12th Planet, aka Planet X, are currently mining there in Phobos, and mankind is
quarantined from them at present. This quarantine is to allow mankind to have a balanced environment during
their 3rd Density decision making process, as the giants, more highly advanced in the past and larger,
intimidated mankind and upset this balance. The quarantine also applies to the surface of Mars, where remnants
of their lifestyle exist. To the extent that this looks like intelligent life, period, it is allowed to be in the
consciousness of mankind. However, discovering details that prove the large and powerful size of these giants,
would not be allowed, any more than peeking at the inbound planet with probes such as Contour.
2. The elite on Earth, who are withholding news of the likelihood of a passage next Spring, are being deliberately
thwarted in their escape to force them to stumble, and in their desperation at some point, blurt out the news. A
clean get-away would allow a tight information outlet up to and through the end, but thwarted get-aways are
very good means of discombobulating the arrogant. Thus, all of mankind, all members of the elite, are to be
thwarted.
3. The giant hominoids are not going to move to 4th Density, along with the Earth and its inhabitants, some 100
years hence after the pole shift. Coming aback at some future date, they will find collapsed cities, pollution
washed lakes, and bones of man. They will also find a dim sun, and having observed the dimming from afar,
assume that the Sun died out, as they do. Thus, their own progression toward spiritual maturity can proceed
without jealousy.
The means of preventing interaction between these two cultures are many, but most notably include space programs
that meet with endless mechanical problems. At times, the steps taken by the elite are allowed to occur, as this
generates more frustration when they hit another snag. Fully frustrated efforts turn the elite to brutality elsewhere,
allowing once again the tight control over news we seek to prevent. Allowing success, after a frustration, only incites
them to try harder, and thus when the passage approaches and they are without a means of lifting off the Earth's
surface, they despair. It is then we hope that mankind will hear of the approaching passage.
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Note: written during the Feb 1, 2003 IRC Session
We have, over the past few months, when queries about NASA disasters such as Mars probes disappearing or
malfunctioning, or Space Station or Shuttle problems, responded consistently that this was due to Council of Worlds
decisions. Mankind on Earth is quarantined from the giant hominoids that inhabit Planet X, and vice versa. This is due
to a decision some eons ago that the giant hominoids, being larger and more technically advanced than mankind, were
upsetting the 3rd Density balance needed for a fair orientation determination, the lesson of 3rd Density. Thus, the giant
hominoids were driven from Earth by a series of disasters, and setup mining on a moon of Mars, where they are today.
Likewise, this quarantine applies to any plans the Bush Administration might have to nuke the inbound Planet X,
coordinating the various nuclear devices they have already placed into space, on supposed probes, from a well
equipped and staffed Space Station. This quarantine, and a decision to force the Service-to-Self elite of Earth to stay
with the populace they have such disdain for, also applies to an escape to Mars.
In spite of economic setbacks to the point of revisiting the Great Depression, homelessness, bankruptcy, cutbacks in
Social Security and medical coverage for the poor, the Bush Administration thinks only of invading the oil fields of
Iraq and funding a nuclear engine for a fast track to Mars. They are becoming obvious. Most recently we were asked
why, after we announced after the last NASA disaster that the gloves were coming off, that a seeming success was
allowed. Our answer at that time was that the devastation to these elite groups is greater when they seem to have a
success, followed by yet more devastating failures. This is an example. Since the last disaster, they have announced
funding for NASA. From a deficit greater than any in history, from a banking system with a lower interest rate than
any since WWII, from a tanking Stock Market and no hope in sight, that they are funding NASA so they can have a
fast track, a nuclear driver, to Mars! Arrogance, and obviously the populace matters not at all.
Was there any significance to an Israeli on board when the shuttle blew up, and was this truly an accident? Yes, and
no. The Bush Administration has made no secret of their intention to invade Iraq, lay mines in Iraq soil to disembowel
future children, and cause untold mutilation and injury to American soldiers and citizens of the Middle East combined.
They have zero justification, but this matters not to those who think they can dominate the world, and have the only
military might that can do so. This military might commandeered by coup, not by democratic vote, we might add.
Their ally in this invasion is far more than Britain, a rather nervous Blair, it is Israel. The brute force that has been
eliminating the Palestinians from their homeland could be counted on, so the logic goes, to invade and manage Iraq oil
fields, for the greater good of chronies of the Bush Administration, of course.
So a message was given, but there is more to this picture than meets the eye. What truly was ongoing on the Shuttle,
on the Space Station to be finalized in the next few weeks and months? Nuclear armed probes have been sent aloft in
the recent past, to the alarm of those residents on Earth who saw the danger to Earth should the probe not make it into
orbit. Was it quite necessary to arm a probe with nuclear material, just to explore the unknown? This probe, the
Cassini, of course, was enroute to Planet X, a trajectory not even hidden from public view at that time. And this probe
not the first or last such to be launched. To coordinate a nuking of Planet X, the Space Station, well above the soup of Earth's atmosphere, was required. The rush to gain debris that managed not to burn up is due only partly so that
determination of the cause can be made. Indeed, there are traces of what they were really up to among the mess. Not
only radioactive, the casings having broken, but the types of instruments aboard!
At last they had gotten back to staffing and equipping it! Or so they thought. A decision was made by the Council of
Worlds, and the directive carried out by those visitors who carried their concerns to the Council. We, the Zetas, were
not a party, but several other visiting groups were. It matters not just who was concerned that the population of the
Earth will be allowed to starve, to drown, to not be warned of the coming disasters. Those astronauts who go on
missions know the dangers, the shuttle having blown up previously due to a faulty O-Ring. Thus, they had made their
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peace with death, to a one. Not so the billions of innocents about to be tortured, maimed, starved, and deserted in their
hour of need by those who were using the space program for their own power mad ends. The message of the
disintegrating and finally exploding shuttle was to the Bush Administration, who will not fail to get the message. They
will not be allowed to destroy another 3rd Density world, they must stand with their citizenry, so much treated with
disdain, and there will be no escape to Mars or elsewhere! In that an Israeli scientist was on board, the first, there was a
dual message. You will not be allowed to invade Iraq as expected, to succeed, and your secret plans, your smug deals
with allies, will fail!
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ZetaTalk: Shuttle Discovery
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written Aug 11, 2005
NASA is trying once again to launch a shuttle, the first one since the Columbia disaster a couple of years
back. Are the setbacks they are currently experiencing warnings by the Council? Will the mission be
allowed to proceed as planned or will interference occur to prevent the mission from being successful?
[and from another] I had the notion that it might just be our space friends who are monkey wrenching
with the Space Shuttle for their own good reasons. Would the Zetas care to comment on this? And if it is
true, what is the strategy and what is the true mission of this flight?
What was the point of the repeated warnings that a malfunctioning fuel gauge represented? The fuel gauge mechanism
was replaced, examined, but still it malfunctioned. The message to NASA was that it was going to have mechanical
problems, problems they would not anticipate and could not fix, problems with a mysterious origin and an even more
mysterious refusal to be repaired. This message was not lost on NASA, who despite the public hand wringing on what
went wrong with their shuttle Columbia, despite the declared conclusion that it was problems with light weight foam
cracking the fame of the shuttle, knew full well that we and others had taken the Columbia down, because of the cargo it was carrying. The ISS was peeking at Planet X, providing information on its trajectory and speed, and to avoid
transmitting this information to Earth via radio, which can be captured and cracked, they were using the Shuttle to
ferry this to Earth so that only the elite would be aware of the presence and danger that Planet X represents to
mankind. We had warmed repeatedly that the elite needed to begin sharing this information with the common man,
whom they purport to care for as they collect taxes and govern.
Why the press to get the Discovery back into orbit? Yes, the Russians were carrying the burden of maintaining the
ISS, ferrying astronauts and providing supplies, and this was an embarrassment to NASA, being in second place and
dependent upon their former rivals, the Russians. Yes, maintaining the ISS indefinitely in this manner was not feasible,
and it would eventually have to be closed down if the Shuttle could not be back into operation. But is all this worth
lives? Is all this worth proceeding despite mechanical problems that cannot be resolved, not matter how many times
the same problem presents? A malfunctioning fuel gauge that malfunctions several times, and continues to do so even
when replaced? The message was clear, and it was also clear to the mass of humanity following this saga that NASA
cared not one whit for its astronauts, and was desperate to get into space, for some unstated reason.
This was one of the goals of those tinkering with the Discovery's fuel gauge system, to force NASA to show the world
that they were desperate to get into space, begging the question, why the desperation?
What is the future of the ISS space station, or any attempts to get the elite to the dark side of the Moon where there
are, as they know, alien bases where they could hunker down and survive the pole shift on Earth in safety. Where
Bush has trumpeted the NASA programs as having a grand future, talking up manned missions to Mars, the reality of
the failing space programs has leaked around this pompous stance like water past a rock in a stream, fooling no one.
The elite will not escape to Mars to ride out the pole shift, nor will they escape to the Moon, a place the shuttle would
be likely to reach, should the shuttle program be operational. Is it operational now? Bush and those in his
administration closely allied with him assume the US Military and the NASA space program to be carnations in his
lapel, things he controls, and as such, reasons the Puppet Master should treat him well. The US Military is in revolt
against Bush, the control of the oil fields in the Middle East a disaster because of his management, and now the NASA
space program a proven disaster.
This was another goal of those tinkering with the Discovery, creating not only an intractable fuel gauge problem but
tearing off foam upon take off and ripping a heat seal on the front windows. Getting the message yet?
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Why then, if the Columbia was torn from the sky as it returned with fresh information on the position and trajectory of
Planet X, was the Discovery allowed to return? During the two and a half years that the Shuttle was out of operation,
NASA returned to transmitting information from the ISS, risking this information being captured and decoded by other
countries or by members of the public. The information was not returned via the Russian ferry system, something the
arrogant Bush administration could not stoop to, as they consider themselves the holder of the secrets, the source of
information, and thus, in their minds, they consider themselves to be invaluable and irreplaceable in the Puppet
Masters eyes. Sorry, Bush, the Puppet Master is not fooled, and has long been displeased with your performance and
concluded the assets he has that are within US territories would be better off without you. The latest shuttle disasters
are only a reminder.
Signs of the Times #1486
Astronauts Prepare to Undock, Return Home [Aug 5] NASA cleared Discovery to return to Earth
next week, concluding Thursday that there was no need to send the astronauts out on another
spacewalk to repair a torn thermal blanket near a cockpit window. NASA had been considering
sending the astronauts out to snip away part of the blanket for fear a 13-inch section weighing just
under an ounce could tear away during the latter stages of descent and strike the shuttle, perhaps
causing grave danger. The astronauts had to step outside to repair the shuttle's thermal protection
and reduce the risk of another Columbia-type tragedy during the trip home, when the spacecraft
passes through the blowtorch heat of re-entry.
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Note: written during the Feb 8, 2003 IRC Session
It has been rumored that the Shuttle Columbia was carrying Plutonium, and thus the distress over its parts spread far
and near during the disaster. The debris to be recovered is important because of the instruments it represents,
instruments not admitted to the public in the published activities accepted for the Shuttle to be involved in.
Monitoring the inbound Planet X, and maneuvering to nuke it, involve primarily probes that have been sent aloft ready
to act as guided bombs, and the Hubble. The Hubble has been repeaatedly outfitted with new instrumentation, with an
urgency the public has wondered about. Just what is the press to learn about deep space, and why the need for Infrared
recently? The Hubble, of course, is daily taking images of the inbound Planet and its complex of moons and dust tail,
regardless of what the public is told is the work before the Hubble. Only those in NASA, in the inner circle who collect
the feed coming from the Hubble, who set the coordinates, know what is truly being viewed, and why. There are levels
in these inner circles, such that those collecting this information are surrounded by another circle, and so forth and so
on, so that a breach can be caught long before it escapes to the public.
The probe known to be carrying Plutonium, some 70 lb. of this, was scarcely the only such probe, as we have
mentioned. Many Russian probes, dozens of probes sent aloft by the Chinese, hired to loft satellites in the past few
years, and several from South Africa, though few know of this. These probes go up in groups, not each singly, to
disguise the numbers. How many citizens, watching the launches, can observe what happens to them once they are out
of sight, monitored only by the instruments sensitive to the equipment onboard? They most often learn of the launches
only from the press, and are forbidden from attending the launch, learning of the occurrence after the fact. So what is
planned, with these nukes, and what is required?
As assurance that the Hubble can be directed, properly, and the probes directed, even should interference with
directives or communications from Earth's surface be disabled due to magnetic or weather problems, the Space Station
is viewed as a backup. Man lofted the balloon which viewed the inbound Planet X in 1983, by the IRAS team, because
the soup of the atmosphere prevented a clear view. This same soup can prevent reception from the Hubble, but the
Space Station is deemed a close and clear command post. They have their instructions, and these three, onboard and
unlikely to be removed prior to the terrible hour of passage, are expected to perform like the drones the elite presume
them to be. No emotions, no errors, and they hope no interference from outside forces as occurred, rather obviously, in
the case of the Shuttle Columbia.
The plan, then, is to direct the probes to explode upon the surface of the inbound Planet X, redirecting its path. Of
course, we have explained that an inbound gravity bound object such as Planet X would not be deflected, but human
astrophysics says otherwise, that the trajectory is ruled by Newton, and thus they proceed. Thus nudges out of the way,
the results of which would be closely monitored by the Hubble, the Space Station occupants would be returned to
Earth as heroes. Of course, no such scenario will occur, but the exact mechanism of its demise will be withheld by us,
so as to maximize the disappointment the elite will experience when the Council chooses to act. The Shuttle was
carrying instruments to the Space Station, regardless of the reported agenda, and returning with results not allowed to be transmitted lest they become intercepted by the public and the plot out. They are practicing, the results returned to
Houston, and repeat practice scheduled via code between Houston and the Space Station.
Just what toxic substances would be involved with the Shuttle? Tiles? Foam? Metal? Human excrement? Were they
experimenting with Small Pox up there? DDT? PCB? No explanation is given to the public on what toxins are
probably, or what the public is to do in the event of exposure. Is the public directed to report to a detox center if
accidentally exposed? No! This is because the excuse given is false. The manner in which the Shuttle was pulled apart,
caused to disintegrate, was designed to spread the debris over the largest possible area, in order to discombobulate the
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elite in NASA and the White House and their international allies. The message to those listening, tell your public what
is approaching, so that they can make their own personal plans just as you are doing. What else is government for?
What else is defense for? What else, in the name of God, is Homeland Security for!
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Note: written during the Mar 1, 2003 IRC Session
After 31 years, the signal has disappeared.
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The public, those aware of the Planet X cover-up, is aware that Pioneer 10 and 11 were sent in the direction of the
inbound Planet X. That Pioneer 10 was announced to have suddenly gone silent means one of two possibilities.
1. that NASA no longer wants to share the information, and
2. that the probe was silenced like the Mar's probes.
Along with the Columbia shuttle, which was as we stated the day after its demise torn apart in the skies on orders from
the Council of Worlds, to send a clear message to the Bush Administration and their cohorts that nuking Planet X
would not be allowed, and attempts should be stopped, this probe’s death is an exclamation point at the end of that
statement. In other words, Columbia was not the first, and will not be the last. This has, if anything, intensified the
determination to rule the Earth, among this crowd, so the war upon the Iraq people has intensified in spite of all
opposition. They have been warned to back away from creating chaos here too, but expect they will not listen until
disaster strikes again. This is a crowd that assumes that any life or equipment or cost for their ends is justified, as long
as it is not their life or comfort. Thus, they persist. But as we stated a couple weeks ago, entertainment time has begun!
Stay tuned!
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ZetaTalk: Genesis
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written Sep 11, 2004
You hinted at the fate of this probe in Sign of the Times, would the Zetas like to chime in? I would sure
like to hear from them on this.
Looking at the fallen faces on TV, the NASA personnel being interviewed after their precious cargo returning, chock
full of data and particles to be analyzed, dropped into the hard desert floor at 193 mph, one would think they had lost a
lover, a mother, their best friend, been fired from a prestigious job after decades of service, been served with divorce
papers, or learned they had scant days to live as they had been diagnosed with a fatal and painful disease. NASA, so
well funded as to have misplaced hundreds of billions of dollars, per the accountants, was not devastated because yet
another probe failed. They were devastated because the information on that probe was vital to analysis of where Planet
X has been, its speed and trajectory, and the composition of its tail. As we explained months ago, the establishment
has been Driving Blind in trying to view the trajectory of Planet X from Earth, as it ran up close to the Sun while on the opposite side of the Sun during the Spring and Summer of 2003, so observatories and even the Hubble and SOHO
were of no use. The Hubble cannot look toward the Sun lest its mirrors get fried, and the SOHO has a limited range
and is expected to be Sun centered at all times.
What can one learn about speed from a body that is heading straight on? The side view is needed. Probes sent out to
gain that perspective have routinely broken, though little has been said in the press about this. As with the Columbia
Shuttle when success with the Space Station, and anticipation of an escape to Mars or the Moon during the pole shift was making the elite almost giddy, they assumed that Genesis was to be exempt from attack as it had been allowed to
function for so long. And as with the Columbia, when this success is snatched from their hands at the last moment, the
sense of defeat is more devastating, the lesson brought home with more force, and the message not lost.
The elite drag their feet on informing the public about the presence of Planet X in the inner solar system. What They
Fear eats at them, the uncertainty of what will happen when the public begins to realize they have been lied to, and the true value of health, safety, and self sufficiency compared to what they are shackled to by mortgage, payment plans,
and the promise of pensions. Once the genie is out of the bottle, one cannot put it back. They had held out hope that
Genesis, apparently overlooked by those under direction from the Council of Worlds who had mandated that the elite
on Earth are to share the same fate as the common man they treat with such disdain, would provide the missing pieces
of information on the trajectory and speed of Planet X to allow them to cobble together an approximate date for martial
law. Now, still blinded, they sit in front of the TV cameras, barely holding back the tears. So sad. They know what is
coming, where the common man has been kept ignorant, but they are the ones to be pitied.
Signs of the Times #1098
Genesis Space Capsule Crashes Into Desert [Sep 8]
‘The Genesis space capsule, which promised scientists
potential clues to the origin of the solar system,
crashed to Earth on Wednesday after its parachute
failed to deploy. It wasn't immediately known whether
the cosmic samples had been destroyed. NASA
officials believed the fragile disks that hold the atoms
would shatter even if the capsule hit the ground with a
parachute. Hollywood stunt pilots had taken off to
hook the capsule's parachute, but the refrigerator-
sized capsule — holding a set of fragile disks containing billions of atoms collected from solar wind
— hit the desert floor without the parachute opening. The capsule was returning after three years in
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space as part of six-year project that cost $260 million.’ [Note: more likely carrying information on
the location and speed of Planet X and the composition of the tail.]
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Note: written on Jan 15, 1997. Planet X and the 12th Planet are one and the same.
In an open society, scientific exploration is not a dilemma - all participate and all share the results. Of course, there are
awards granted to the scientist who uncovers and documents a natural process or occurrence previously unknown, but
these awards are granted based on the efforts of the scientist. One does not take away a discovery from a discoverer
unless a mugging occurs, and in an open scientific society this only gets the thief denounced. Thus it was in the early
Greek society, where philosophical discussions were open for all to participate in, and the joy of discovery shared in
like manner with the discoverer making his presentation in the forum. They did this because they had nothing to hide.
They also did this at the expense of their own time and money. Now contrast this to the supposedly enlightened and
open scientific society of today.
In a closed society, scientific exploration is a double dilemma. If exploration is done but the discoveries are not to be
shared with the public, then how to keep the public from peeking over one's shoulder? If scientific devices are honed
so as to augment discovery, then how to explain to an impatient public that less information is being provided to them
just when they have paid for more and better equipment! The Hubble is one such dilemma, as were the Apollo
missions and the space probes sent to putt about the solar system. The public gets less and less information, the iron
doors slamming shut, the information archived rather than displayed and made available in dribbles and dabs like
scraps of meat thrown to hungry dogs from the masters table. Never mind that the public, the taxpayers, have paid for
the information that is so arrogantly withheld from them.
And what are the excuses given for withholding simple views of the Universe from the public, who foots the bill?
Since there are no valid excuses for keeping the windows shut while telling those in the house that there is nothing
unusual outside to be seen, invalid excuses were invented. The public is not being denied the Hubble pictures, hot off
the press as they are transmitted by the expensive machine they have paid for, says NASA, it's just that a Principal
Investigator has first rights and say so. Excuse me? Does the Principal Investigator pay for the Hubble, that he or she
has first rights? In that NASA is not a government agency, though they have arranged to line up at the public trough
along with the politicians, the public cannot easily take them to account with their elected officials. NASA and the
Hubble trouble are an arm's length away, and by design.
What is it the public is not supposed to see, with all this Principal Investigator privilege, lack of access to hot off the
press Hubble shots, and even the lack of a precise Hubble schedule. The public can't press to be invited to the party if
they don't know one is planned - that's the theory. The public is not to see the UFO's that the astronauts saw with their
bare eyes and the Hubble records regularly. The public is not to see the evidence that NASA and JPL hold like candy
to dribble out when they need funding, such as evidence that planets suitable for life exists orbiting around other suns.
The public is not to see evidence that NASA is publishing erroneous infra-red catalogs, so that the 12th Planet, a.k.a.
Planet X, does not appear in the IRAS catalogs and so is not sought in the skies where it now rides. The public is not
to see evidence that would tell the truth about any distractions, such as the Hale-Bopp fraud, that the establishment
wishes the public to chase after.
NASA is increasingly having Hubble trouble, but this will not cause them to openly share the pictures that the Hubble
provides with the general public. Look for increasing withholding, and alternative excuses beyond the Principal
Investigator excuse, as this one is wearing thin with the public.
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ZetaTalk: Nuke-It Plan
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Note: written during the Jan 18, 2003 IRC Session
The establishments in the countries and global enterprises that are aware of the potential for the coming shift are in a
dither at the present time, as time seems to be running out with no good options. Decades ago, it was to burrow
underground or to leave Earth, better know as a couple of the Alternatives that MJ12 came up with
Going to the Dark Side of the Moon or to Earth's dark twin did not work out, as members of the military and
scientific community who were taken there did not live easily under the Service-to-Self alien presence, and it
was only the Service-to-Self aliens who had contacted MJ12 who were involved. Thus, this failed because
humans could not live, function, in this environment, and those humans who were whisked off to those off-Earth
homes were killed, lest they bring back word of where they had been.
Going underground lived a longer life, ala Mt Weather and similar well fitted caverns, but due more to
knowledge about the size of the quakes involved during the shift than leaks into their whereabouts, this plan is
not considered viable anymore either.
Military bases, many vacant due to closures in past decades, are an ideal spot to setup government or military
installations, for post shift regrouping. These are, in whatever country situated, off premises for the public, and
have defensible perimeters.
Going to Mars was considered, pushed upon the wealthy who were seen as the funding giants, but due to the
long string of disasters in even getting into space, has fallen into disrespect.
Star Wars, deemed a method of putting up a shield that would ping out any boulder about to sling into Earth, has
not even gotten past prototype testing, and even if heavily funded would not be operational in time.
Nuking the inbound planet out of the skies is still seen as a viable option, however, and many nuclear warheads
have been positioned under the control of NASA, in various probes sent aloft, not all announced to the public.
The Space Station and Hubble are seen as key tools in such a Nuking Operation, for visibility and good aim.
Now, given this is the last ditch plan, will it work, and if not, why not? First and foremost in failure is the unexpected, which the establishment has failed to consider from the beginning. Even were the Council of Worlds to not interfere,
this plan would fail. The sheer size of this planet would prevent it from being dissipated, and the bulk would still
progress, undisturbed, as the path is toward the sun, and any explosion on the surface no more than a firecracker, not a displaced trajectory. This is an inhabited planet, which inhabitants used to enslave mankind on Earth and send them
into the mines, and they had rocket power, missile power, and the ability to travel within the solar system long before
man. In fact, mankind is not even where they were eons ago, and they have progressed in the intervening years, so
mankind is even further behind, technology wise. Would these intelligent and technological hominoids allow a probe
to approach, to explode in their atmosphere? And last, since the Council would not allow one 3rd Density planet to
destroy another, the probes would simply meet with accidents before arriving.
Thus, the establishments of Earth, the power structure in the US and Russia and Britain, and to the extent that the
coming shift is known to other allies, and to the banking establishment worldwide, the time when they must adjust to a
catastrophe is near! You will soon see panic, and mistakes in front of microphones, and wildly changing policy such
that everyone stands gap-mouthed watching and wondering what has gotten into the power structure. Entertainment
time!
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ZetaTalk: Driving Blind
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written Sep 21, 2003
On this day the US Government is planning to push Planet X away from its Point of Passage with Earth, changing its orbit such that it is diverted in its path to an increased retrograde orbit, which would take Planet X more quickly in a clockwise direction, averse to Earth’s counterclockwise orbit direction, thus avoiding what is termed a collision of sorts, a pole shift, a collision of magnetic fields in which the Earth would unquestionably be the loser. The much publicized death of Galileo, sending it into Jupiter with its spent payload of Plutonium 238, will be the cover for success in this regard, any flash of light, or shock wave, being explained to the public as a reaction to the death of Galileo. The Plan is to send numerous bombs, lofted as was Casini with nuclear material, onto the surface of Planet X
and explode them simultaneously, the much touted but utterly untried method to deflect asteroids.
This plan will fail, because as we have explained on August 28, the US Government is driving blind. We refused to give coordinates for Planet X past the May 15 date, refused to state the distance from Earth, and have with our brethren taken out any probes that might
provide the US Government with clues as to the location or speed or exact trajectory of Planet X. They are driving blind, with scarcely more information than the photos provided to Nancy by the public can provide. Is it behind the Sun or ahead? It appeared to be in the
vicinity of Orion/Taurus well past the May 15 date, into June in fact, because Orion/Taurus moved past the Sun as the Earth progressed in its orbit, thus it was unclear if Planet X had moved to the Sun or was still approaching. By July it was clear that it was definitely in the solar system, as the constellation background had changed, but as it was obviously heading for the Sun as a gravity drawn, where
was it vs a vs the Sun?
Our statement on August 28, that Planet X had indeed arrived between the Earth and the Sun, was small comfort, as bombs aloft and
directed from Houston need more than the general area in a span of 93 million miles as a target. The recently lofted infra-red probe,
sent up on August 25 to ostensibly look for brown dwarfs, has failed, gone blind. All attempts to pinpoint the location are left to Earth hugging stations, a tunnel vision where triangulation is needed. Thus assumptions are acting as the guide, along with any data the space born bombs can provide as to what is before them. Should they overshoot, they push the rogue planet toward Earth. Should they fail to explode the bombs, they have loosed in space a horror that must be sent into the Sun for safety. A nervous day, at NASA.
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ZetaTalk: Tight Control
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written Sep 21, 2003
There are those who would say that such an ambitious project, to divert the path of Planet X into a sharper retrograde
orbit, could not be kept a secret, but clues that this is the plan are everywhere. Despite loud evidence that Planet X has
arrived, the explanations to cover this is weak. In this the establishment is bluffing, assuming they will be able to
divert Planet X, which will then just float away, and the evidence that it ever existed will grow cold and die, a
conspiracy theory, an internet rumor, just another end-of-the-world flap instigated and promoted by crazies. Control is
tight, reaching out to world leaders who have been assured that this presence in the solar system will float away, the
real danger panic in the populace. Astronomers and newscasters and anyone who might be in a position to know the
truth have been muzzled with this assurance.
What will happen if this gambit fails, as it surely will, and Planet X trudges on toward its death grip on Earth’s
magnetic field, grinding rotation to a stop with all the attendant horrors that an impending pole shift will bring? Panic,
and not in the public, which will watch in astonishment as the establishment fractures and becomes hysterical. Unable
to escape to Mars and watch the turmoil from a distance, returning as Kings, unable to feel secure in their underground
bunkers given the earthquake predictions that would surely entomb them, unable to secure the US Military for their
private guards as the military has indeed supplanted their Commander in Chief with their own internal leadership in
August, as rumored, the establishment is left on a level playing field with the common man. It also leaves all those
muzzled with pangs of conscience. Should they now speak out, now that the Earth will surly be ravaged and the
ignorant populace not alerted to this outcome?
A drama will ensue, wherein each individual will be challenged to do what is right for others and tell the truth or
continue to succumb to intimidation and think of their own security and comfort. This drama will intensify, despite
assassinations and finger pointing and loud rhetoric, as the sheer numbers of individuals enlisted in the conspiracy
leaves wiping out those in the know as an impossibility. The drama will intensify right into rotation stoppage, and as
long as any means of alerting the public exists, on whatever level.
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ZetaTalk: Russia, Da?
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written Jan 7, 2005
Why is NASA preparing to launch on Wednesday Jan. 12, 2005, the Deep Impact Space Mission to
encounter a comet and basically blast a hole in it to find out if it shares certain chemical building blocks
that lead to the formation of water and thus life on Earth? All of sudden, they're doing it now? And why
did Russia, back in early December 2004, have a launch test of their most dangerous missile, the most
dangerous missile on Earth, the SS-18 (dubbed Satan by the US) and then publicly claim that it was for
use in space?
It has been months since the last attempt to nuke Planet X into an orbit that would spare the Earth, a failed attempt run by the US government. Since the US space program seems to be the one receiving setbacks, it is presumed by some
that perhaps this is due to an alien vendetta against the Bush Administration, so that other countries might succeed.
Never mind our words, which clearly state that the Council will not allow one inhabited planet to nuke another.
Perhaps Nancy has been mistaken in her role as Emissary to the Zetas. Perhaps she got it wrong, and the Russians
could succeed where the US has routinely failed. After all, the Columbia Shuttle carrying information on the position and trajectory of Planet X deemed too sensitive to transmit via radio from the space station, was a US operation, as
was the crashed Genesis. But the space station, a Russian enterprise, remained aloft. Torn from the skies by ourselves and others under directives from the Council, it was clear from the demise of the Columbia we were angry at the Bush
Administration cover-up, but the Russians have been more forthcoming about the existence of Planet X. So, might they
be allowed, then, to nudge the monster increasingly causing quakes and volcanic eruptions and weather extremes here
on Earth, aside, on its way on a path that would be less threatening to Earth?
Opening up the cover-up, expected to rupture with such a stink that few segments of society would remain above it, is
deemed so distasteful that reluctance and foot dragging have prevented any but the most tentative and explorative
attempts at telling the common man the horrid truth. Your governing bodies, your churches, your major media outlets,
your self-proclaimed leadership, all have been aware of the presence of a body in the inner solar system but have
ensured by their cooperation that you would be the last to know. Tend to your jobs, pay your taxes, respect their
authority, and when you find they have had every opportunity to prepare for their personal safety while you remained
ignorant up until the last minute, please do not be angry and blame the cover-up. Anticipating this anger, scapegoats
have been assigned but the Bush Administration and NASA are not happy about this role and have, understandably,
kept a firm heel on the cover-up lid, reluctant to let the lid blow and the savage accusations begin.
So, once again, they test the waters.
The Deep Impact launch date is confirmed for January 12, 2005. The project team, split among three
locations in the United States, will use the time to continue testing and making the spacecraft ready for its
six month journey to Comet Tempel 1. The remainder of the team communicates with the rest of the project
from Ball Aerospace and Technologies Corp. where the spacecraft and instruments were built.
http://deepimpact.jpl.nasa.gov/
Three days before Christmas, Satan will rise on a column of flame over Russia. But instead of death for
millions, the event should mark an amazing conversion of Cold War swords into plowshares. Satan is the
NATO code name for the SS-18 intercontinental ballistic missile. The Soviet Union built and deployed
hundreds of SS-18s in underground silos east of the Ural Mountains, and 130 remain on active duty at
three bases. They each carried up to 10 thermonuclear warheads. But now the aging missiles are being
decommissioned, and some of them are being converted to commercial space launch vehicles. This
particular blastoff is unusual because it will come from the military missile base of the 13th Missile
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Division at Dombarovsky, east of Orenburg, near the Kazakh border. It’s been almost 20 years since such
a missile has blasted off from any military base, and this base has never made such a launch. The launch
will be aimed at the Kamchatka Peninsula in the Russian Far East. Subsequent launchings will head south
over the Kazakh steppes, across the Persian Gulf, and into orbit.
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ZetaTalk: Deep Impact
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written June 26, 2005
You don't suppose they're trying the nuke Planet X thing again, do you?
Billed as an opportunity to learn more about the early days of the solar system, when comets
were presumably formed, this collision with a comet is anything but what the public is being
told. Planned almost a decade ago, this was and remains an alternate means of nuking Planet X
out of its approach toward Earth, to hopefully lessen the impact of the passage. The first
attempt on Sep 21, 2003 was disguised as the death of Galileo into Jupiter, billed as potentially
lighting the sky up, but a dud as it was disabled by benign aliens. The rules governing worlds
such as Earth, in the early stages of their spiritual growth, are that they are not allowed to
destroy one another. Despite being so warned, the US set out to attempt to nuke Planet X with
a loaded probe, and failed. This second attempt scheduled for July 4 is a test, as the probe is
not being sent toward Planet X, but to the Earth's dark twin, which shares its orbit and arrived
over a year ago to ride the orbit just behind the stalled Earth. As the Earth stalled in her orbit in
Dec 2003, and the dark twin arrived behind her by mid-2004, their locations were known for the launch date of this
newest probe in Dec 2004. The dark twin, a black hunk of rock that is invisible unless positioned to reflect some light
in the blue and yellow spectrum toward the viewer as it was in early 2004 [photos], is in a location that matches the
Temple1 location given on diagrams. The dark twin is in sight just after sunset, to the West, and this is where
Earthlings are being told to gaze for the Deep Impact fireworks.
This test is testing the feasibility of this type of planetary
nudge via nukes, the theory. It is expected to be allowed
because the dark twin is known to be dead, no water, no
vegetation, no life, no atmosphere, and thus, presumably,
not under the rule whereby inhabited planets are not
allowed to destroy each other. Should the dark twin be
nudged, computations can be run on what would be
needed to nudge Planet X. Meanwhile, so those who
assume they rule Earth and resent any other rules being
imposed on them, they will work on negotiations, or so
they assume. They regularly give the Call to any aliens
who will respond, who make all manner of promises to
this crowd because they are calling the wrong folks. A
Call given for selfish reasons is a call to the Service-to-
Self, who lie, promise anything, and in their counsel try
to encourage more back stabbing, shattered hopes, and
behavior in humans that might ensure them of more
recruits when the dust settles. The Council of Worlds, who make and enforce the rules, are attended in the main by
Service-to-Other, the 95% of the Universe that treats their criminal element, the Service-to-Self, like pariah. The
Council of Worlds most certainly does not listen to those in the Service-to-Self, nor empower them to act on their
behalf.
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Chance of some fireworks on July 4th? Possible, in the hands of man. Chance of nuking Planet X out of its trajectory?
Zero.
Signs of the Times #1469
Fireworks likely when NASA blows up comet [Jun 26]
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/apscience_story.asp?
'Not all dazzling fireworks displays will be on Earth this Independence Day. NASA hopes to shoot
off its own celestial sparks in an audacious mission that will blast a stadium-sized hole in a comet
half the size of Manhattan. NASA guarantees that its experiment will not significantly change the
comet's orbit nor will the smash-up put the comet or any remnants of it on a collision course with
Earth.' [and from another source]
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/deepimpact/mission/index.html The Deep Impact mission lasts
six years from start to finish. Planning and design for the mission took place from November 1999
through May 2001. In December 2004, a Delta II rocket launches the combined Deep Impact
spacecraft which leaves Earth's orbit and is directed toward the comet. After a voyage of 173 days
and 431 million kilometers (268 million miles), NASA's Deep Impact spacecraft will get up-close
and personal with comet Tempel 1 on July 4. Tempel 1's orbit lies between the orbits of Mars and
Jupiter.
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ZetaTalk: Deep Impact Result
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written July 6, 2005
In this day and age of special effects, were these photos and videos concocted in advance to show to the
public? How are we to ever know?
As we stated days before the July 4th show was scheduled to start, these fireworks were in the hands of man, as any failure or floundering would be theirs. And flounder they did. As we explained, the target was not a comet but the
Earth's Dark Twin, target practice against a dead world in preparation for another attempt to nuke Planet X out of its
current trajectory. The planned explosions from several nuclear devices, in keeping with the story being told, was to
occur simultaneously, a single flash, but what occurred was a series of flashes over an hour. Do dead, cold, dirty
snowballs, separating so the parts drift off into the void and vacuum of space, ignite? What is it that ignites? Frozen
water? Bits of dust? Ignition is from what man put there, bomb material, and the fact that several explosions occurred
are proof that NASA lied, once again, and had several bombs, not one, aboard. Earth based observatories and
individuals watching with their scopes saw several explosions, but official images from space based observatories or
the observing probe itself stopped after the prepared story and reality parted ways.
The animation prepared well ahead of time, to be shown as though it was from space based views, did not match the
result, nor did the scripted commentary that the stunned scientists struggled to relay during the well advertised event.
They had no explanation for the series of explosions, and stuttered into silence, not daring to venture a guess as it
might counter the eventual official explanation. Debunking the theories now being floated is easy. One popular Internet
theory is that electrical currents within the comet, lightning in essence, created the flashes. If comets were so
electrified, wouldn't they be flashing as well as outgassing, regularly, as they encounter the debris in the solar system?
The NASA explanation is that portions of the rocky interior of the comet were under pressure and exploded. Again,
we point out that in the void of space, where expansion is not constrained, the comet would simply have broken into
pieces, without an explosion. For an explosion, there needs to be either fissionable or flammable material, and the only
such material available for that is what man would have delivered.
So what did happen? The series of nuclear devices bundled together requires a precise impact at the tip of each for a
simultaneous explosion, and the bundling needs to remain intact. Should either of these fail, the simultaneous
explosion fails, and both failed. NASA's failure rate is not laid out before the public, especially since the Columbia
unexpectedly disintegrated upon reentry, so that funding will not be questioned. Something as simple as a faulty rubber
ring, an O-Ring, can create a shuttle disaster for NASA, such is their track record. The bundled devices, tumbling in
one of the spins man is forever discounting and refusing to understand as they smugly assume they know all the
factors involved and their math describing such situations flawless, did not strike point on as expected. Thus, the initial
impact broke the bundle, and sent each nuclear device bouncing on it's own. Ricocheting about, these devices exploded
on the surface of the Dark Twin over time, independently as each finally aligned so that the tip of the device was the
strike point.
There is more than embarrassment at NASA today, who must explain the unexplainable, as the true mission did not
succeed. Assuming that large hunks of rock can be nudged into new orbits or trajectories, according to all the math
man holds so dear and proudly brags put man on the Moon so it must be accurate, they found otherwise. No change in
position occurred, whatsoever, and the orbits continue as before. Could it be that something other than Newton's Math
rules the Universe? Something akin to the Sweeping Arms of the Sun and particle flows coming back into the Sun at
her middle such that the planets are held in these flows, swept inward toward the Sun but held at bay by the Repulsion
Force? We have patiently demonstrated that the Moon is too large, and moving too slowly, to be held up above Earth
by Centrifugal Force alone, an obvious fact met by ridicule by smug mathematicians when debated in the past. Tisk.
Those too arrogant to learn are doomed to failure, this fact demonstrated once again.
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ZetaTalk: Deep Impact Result
Signs of the Times #1475
Mission Accomplished: Probe Hits Comet [Jul 4] 'NASAś fleet of space telescopes, including the
Hubble Space Telescope, Chandra X-ray Observatory and Spitzer Space Telescope, and dozens of
ground observatories also viewed the impact.' [and from another source] Today in German PRO7
Evening News a representative of ESA (European Space Agency) mentioned that another objective
of this mission was to find out if it would be possible to hit an incoming celestial body. The science
team head said three times that he could not understand how their little impactor could have caused
such a large reaction. It was still outbursting a half hour after impact. [and from another source] A
Nasa scientist on the NBC world news tonight made the comment that we need to know if we can
change the course of a comet in case one is on a collision course with Earth. [and from another
source] During the BBC program the interviewer Graham Cox for the Open University BBC
telephoned Karen and asked her, what was her response to the rather long after glow of the deep
impact and she said something like 'well we don´t really know'. Karen was the one responsible for
coordinating 100 observatories world wide over six years to home in on Deep Impact. [and from
another source] I was listening to George Noory on C2C [Jul 5] with Hoagland and McCaney
discussing the strike on Temple1. They speculated the NASA was lying and that they saw two lights
one of which may have been a nuclear explosion. [and from another
source]http://www.rumormillnews.com/ NASA scientists were astonished and expressed their
amazement on camera and in no uncertain terms: The blast was 'considerably more energetic than I
expected.' 'The big question is how did we make such a big splash.' 'I'm at a loss to explain it.' [and
from another source] NASA keeps showing the same things. Pre-impact photo, post impact photo
taken a few seconds after impact. Its been 45 hours! Where are the current images? [and from
another source]http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com/ 'CFHT Image (Canada France Hawaii Telescope)
equipped with the Megacam camera, pre- and post-impact (image below)' [Note: analysis of the
background stars indicates the series of blasts moved over a considerable area in less than an hour.
This would be appropriate for a large black planet sized rock like the Dark Twin, but not for a
comet sized, object. See also Sign #1469.]
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ZetaTalk: Popular Vote
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Note: written on Dec 15, 2000
What possible reason would there be to call out the US Supreme Court to defend a candidate that had lost the popular
vote, on all fronts. Gore had won an edge of 21 electoral votes, by some 300,000 popular votes, and was only 3
electoral votes shy of winning the Presidency. Gore also won the popular vote in Florida, a fact clear to even the ultra-
right Buchannan who admitted the 3,000 vote he received above what might be expected in the Jewish enclave of Palm
Beach were not his votes, but Gore's. The Florida vote re-count was stopped, repeatedly, by partisan loyalists of the
Bush family. Where this might have been expected in Florida, controlled by the Bush family, what would cause the
Supreme Court to break its long standing tradition of not getting involved in Presidential contests - a tradition that had
endured throughout its history?
The cry that every vote should count, echoed by the GOP lawyers when their behind-the-scenes efforts to boost their
candidate by illegal amendments to absentee ballots were exposed, were put aside when the Democratic opposition
presented the same argument. This familiar court-room posture by lawyers, whereby they contradict themselves from
one day to the next when trying to win the argument of the moment, could have been expected of lawyers. But what
would cause the Supreme Court, when stopping a legally called re-count and effort to examine every ballot for the
intent of the voter, to cast a blind eye to one group of voters while giving an irrational protection to another group?
The only difference appeared to be partisanship, that the judges themselves had been appointed by Republicans, as the
final vote was strictly along partisan lines.
But is there more to this picture? Did the Supreme Court not have more to lose, in this vote, in that the public looks to
it to be non-partisan and supporting the Constitution? Where talk of disenfranchised voters and a partisan Supreme
Court will die down, the shock that the citizenry feels at what is a betrayal of their voting rights will not diminish.
Often the larger the shock, the greater the stunned silence, so that the long-reaching and long-lasting effect of this
shock are not gauged by the smug winning party. Nevertheless, a deep distrust of the new administration will be the
result of this action, which will only be understood when attempts to win over the public for new initiatives seem to
fall flat. In disenfranchising the American voter, as well as the Florida voter, the Supreme Court did more than express
partisanship. They displayed, to those looking behind the moves, a cold and firm plan of the wealthy elite to survive
during the coming changes, at the expense of democracy and the people those in government service have sworn to
serve.
The banking industry takes precedence over the public.
The wealthy stock holder takes precedence over the investor with limited means.
The military elite requires sustenance to support the wealthy elite, in enclaves they will develop and stock with
taxpayer funds as the time draws near.
Martial Law is to be called when the public, which expects equal service with the elite from the government
they have supposedly elected and supported with their taxes, makes demands.
Did those at the fore of the GOP campaign, and voting to suppress the voter's right from the bench of the Supreme
Court, know of this ultimate plan? If not in full understanding of the circumstances which would call for such steps,
they understood that too little would be available to go around, and that choices would have to be made. In this, they
threw themselves in with those who were to be survivors, the elite, and deserted those they had sworn to serve. The
public can expect more of the same, over the few months and years left until the coming pole shift. The US
government will increasingly serve the elite, and will fail to give any explanation of their actions to the public. In this
blatant service to the elite they will become increasingly irrelevant - an administration serving itself, and not a leader
the public could respect or take seriously.
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ZetaTalk: Popularity Poles
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ZetaTalk: Popularity Polls
Note: written during the Apr 5, 2003 Live ZetaTalk IRC Session
The polls present an approval rating for the War of some 60% or more, but the actual support is in the 30's. The polls
present an approval rating for Bush overall of 60% or more, but the actual approval is in the 20's! What has gone right
for an American, since Bush took office? Loss off jobs, homelessness, medical care ignored, tax money to the rich, the
retirees neglected, the Social Security money spend on an unnecessary war, their 401 funds in the toilet. Thus, as most
suspect, the polls are so wrong that backs are turned when the numbers are announced. The cynicism of these polls and
the media runs deep.
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ZetaTalk: If Gore Had Prevailed
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ZetaTalk: If Gore Had Prevailed
written Sep 29, 2004
A good question for the Zetas would be how would the world be different if Al Gore was President?
With presidential debates pending in the US, and discussion of how the world might have been safer from terrorism
had a different approach been taken than the one Bush chose, the question is begged, how might the world have been
different if Gore had prevailed and the US Supreme Court not illegally entered into the fray, declaring a victor
contrary to the popular vote and before the votes had been legally recounted as the Florida courts had ruled. If Gore
had prevailed, naturally comes to mind, when considering how the world might change if Kerry assumes office. Would
911 have occurred, or was it, as we have stated, directed at Bush and his arrogance, not the US as a country? Would
the invasion of Iraq have occurred, or would terrorism have been treated as an international problem, as it was under
Clinton, to be resolved with close coordination with other countries, including Islamic countries, rather than alienation
of those countries as has occurred under Bush? And most compelling, would the cover-up of Planet X and the impact
of its imminent arrival have softened, leaked, and allowed the citizens of the world the opportunity to prepare, rather
than be shocked and devastated?
We have stated that 911 was assisted by European countries, and would not have succeeded without this assistance. It
was not, as the US public is told endlessly in the media, strictly an attack by Bin Ladin’s associates, anymore than a
hitman is the cause of an assassination. Bush Knew of the threats being made, with the US braced for this and practicing a response. Thus the delay in reaction to the actual attacks was confusion over whether this was an other
practice drill, or the real thing. Bush is not the master, but a Puppet, controlled by those with great wealth who literally
own not only US corporations but by the US national debt, the political process, as well. The Bush/Cheney arm of this
superstructure of world control had been letting their control of the US Military go to their heads, a restless and
arrogant Puppet that was brought to heel, after many warnings, with the 911 attack. Bush was even braced for an
assassination attack. How would this have differed if Gore had prevailed.
Gore, like Kerry, was well known to the Puppet Masters, and not a wild card. Liberal and Conservative alike,
Democrat or Republican, all those in key position of power, or heading there, are well aware of what the Puppet
Masters who control the world by their great wealth are desiring. There are open conferences, emissaries who deliver
messages, and daily directives. The Puppet Masters want to be positioned to control the World’s Oil supplies, should the pole shift predicted occur. Oil will be the next commodity, as all paper money will be considered worthless, and
gold and silver as a base thus worthless also. Worth must be a real thing of value, and as oil can run ships, fly planes,
fuel helicopters and tractors and formulate into fertilizer for fields, it represents growth in the future. Thus, had Gore
prevailed, he would have been pressed to guard and secure the oil fields, using the US Military in this service. How
does this differ from the situation under Clinton? In that the military was already guarding the no-fly zone, was there,
positioned to guard both Iraq and Saudi oil, only continuation of a policy was needed. Nigeria, Venezuela, the Alaska
fields, all were an easy reach for the US Military. The oil fields of Russia, operated by the giant Yukos corporation,
were also considered under the Puppet Masters control.
With the status quo under Clinton continued, had Gore prevailed, neither 911 nor the Iraq invasion would have
occurred, and the Iraq oil fields would not be in disarray, unusable, as they are today. The Puppet Master is not
amused. And the Battle between restless Puppets and their Puppet Master, the Bush/Cheney administration rebelling,
has incited further problems in Russia, which considered the Iraq invasion too close to home and sought to protect
itself. Bush/Cheney, as rebellious and arrogant Puppets, have ruined not only Iraq as an oil field, but are now starting
to ruin Russia as a cooperative Puppet. At present, we have Bush/Cheney attacking Russian security and even
attempting to control Russian oil, Russia fearing the Puppet Masters have lost their grip and inclined to take their
assets into their own hands rather than risk a Bush/Cheney rule of the planet, and the Puppet Master enraged. This rage
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will be directed at Bush, whose arrogance will not protect him from a force far better organized and powerful than any
control of the Executive Branch of the US can muster. Bush is already a king deposed, as he sits over a restless
Congress and agencies that are tired of being made the scapegoat for his disastrous decisions and being treated like
peons.
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ZetaTalk: New Leadership
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ZetaTalk: New Leadership
written Sep 29, 2004
Under Gore, the Earth changes and economic problems resulting from an uptick in disasters would have been the
central issue, and his approach to handling this would likewise have been vastly different from the Bush/Cheney tack.
Gore, as Kerry, entered the fray in Viet Nam, and did not step away into safe zones as did both Bush and Cheney, who
evaded service. This points to a key difference in personality, the ability to face a frightening situation, or the reverse,
an inability leading to the need to create a blockade, a safe zone for the self. Both Bush and Cheney exhibit a
personality that would themselves run for safety at the first hint of danger, would themselves forgo their responsibilities to the greater good, and would themselves consider only their personal safety and comfort during times of duress. This
is what they did during the Viet Nam era, and they assume the public would react as they are prone to do, and thus
anticipating a public that would desert their responsibilities at the first hint of danger, they insist on a tight cover-up.
Gore and Kerry exhibit different personalities, able to confront and engage a threat, and thus would assume a public
that would do likewise, an extension of the self that affects all perception. How would the world differ, if politicians
controlling NASA and the USGS and able to lean on media outlets within the US with National Security directives,
had been under a more stable and mature leadership, as Gore and Kerry represent?
Human cultures are under constant threats, violent weather, droughts and floods, volcanic eruptions, wild fires,
plagues, warfare, and earthquakes. All of this is outside of the average human’s control, and most of this outside of the control of the power structures. Would an uptick in these threats, from nature, cause humans to leave their jobs, their
families, their homes, and run screaming in the streets? The common man waits until the threat is upon them, else
economically they cannot continue to make a living, pay the bills, care for their assets and attend to their
responsibilities. If this were not true, then how does much of the world live under constant threat, yet go through their
day-to-day? A steady uptick in these threats does not change this paradigm. Look to the villages on the sides of
volcanoes who delay evacuation until the eruption overtakes them. The goats must be fed and the fields tended. Look
to the cities along rivers likely to be flooded by deluges upsteam, where evacuation is forgone for a fight against the
flood tide with sand bags and neighbor rescuing neighbor. This is the reaction of the common man, who have their
hearts with their communities, and like Gore and Kerry do not run from this.
Thus, a frank discussion of increased Earth changes, and the potential threat this represents, would not create a change
in the way the world runs, only increased awareness of potential threats and what steps to be taken in the event. Leave
the coastlines and river basins. Plan on self sustaining communities with gardens and flocks and herds. Expect to
rebuild new homes and barns, using scrap from the devastation along with carefully chosen supplies. Faced with the
potential of losing homes and livelihood, and having to live in a more primitive manner, the public would consider
their options. How does this differ from today, when they anticipate a volcanic eruption or a flooded city? Today, they
expect shops to be open, insurance to cover losses or neighbors to offer help in restarting a homestead devastated. The
potential being discussed would differ in that no such rescue would be possible, as all would be devastated. Thus, the
plan would change. Not just run for cover when the disaster struck, but run for safety with key supplies. Not just run to
a spot just outside the danger zone, but run to a place where rebuilding a community in safety might be possible. Thus,
discussing the potential of a worldwide cataclysm allows the public to plan and prepare in a logical manner.
Boom boxes and video games would be left behind, but the seed stock and gardening tools would be treasured.
Cosmetics and high heeled shoes would not be packed, but Vitamin C and first aid supplies would. The stove and
refrigerator requiring electricity would be replaced by wood burning stoves and dried beans and rice, and frozen meat
with fishing rods and nets. If electricity is a commodity the planner cannot do without, life in the dark or back into the
age of candles and torches, serious plans for wind or water mills and their construction or purchase would be laid. The
throw-away mentality, where one can always buy another pair of shoes or an new outfit, suddenly concerned with the
durability of wool and leather clothing, and how to construct these with a treadle sewing machine or hand tools. Barn
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raising techniques, such as the Amish employ today, where teamwork and leverage and hand tools do what a crane or
forklift might do, will be studied and these hand tools suddenly taken out of the garage and well oiled. The attitude
changes, and when the time comes that those with their hearts in their communities are forced to leave, they are
already well on the road to rebuilding sustainable communities elsewhere. This is what Gore would have offered, by
being more open about the Earth changes and less rigid in an increasingly brittle cover-up, and this is what Kerry
would likewise offer and Bush unable, due to his personal inability to deal with threatening situations.
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ZetaTalk: An Inconvenient Truth
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ZetaTalk: An Inconvenient Truth
written June 15, 2006
Would the Zetas like to comment on an informative movie called An Inconvenient Truth? It appears the
film is hinting at future flooding under the guise of global warming when in truth the cause are effects of
the pole shift. [and from another] Would the Zetas care to comment about Al Gores statement that we
have only ten years to stop Global Warming?
Al Gore is certainly aware of the pending pole shift, and
the effect Planet X is having on the Earth. As a Vice
President under Clinton, he was an automatic member of
MJ12, and would have learned this from that source if he
was not already cognizant. So why then is he purporting
that the Earth changes are due to Global Warming? Gore
is in a unique position, poised to return to the Presidency
which he was denied. We have stated that he is the de
facto Commander in Chief of the US Military, in their
eyes. The US Military is not alone in considering him the
only legitimate President, since 2000. The vote fraud in
2004 has continued that situation, with Gore the last
person legitimately elected to be President of the United
States, by challenging his loss of position. Kerry lost this
status in the eyes of those backing Gore when he
capitulated, readily, and did not even challenge his loss in Ohio.
The US government has been posed at the brink of a rebellion, to take back the government from those who took it by
fraud in both 2000 and 2004. What is restraining this coup, this return to legitimacy, is the bulk of Congress who are
slavishly obedient to Bush and the vote fraud machine, and the packed Supreme Court. Lately the Supreme Court has
become an unknown, with two new Bush appointees, but the assumption is that they would align with Bush in any
constitutional crisis. Vote fraud was assumed for the future. GOP members of Congress could not miss the promise
electronic voting fraud had of delivering Karl Rove's dream, GOP control forever. Thus intimidated, they followed the
dictates coming from the White House. Vote fraud has lately been exposed, pulled into mainstream media attention by
the Puppet Master, who is steadfastly decapitating the Bush Administration from any influence over the affairs of the world. GOP control of Congress thus can no longer be assured, and in view of the polls must be assumed to be lost.
Thus the time when the US public can be fully informed - about the stolen 2000 election, the fraudulent 2004 election,
the cover-up over 911, the use of the US Military to gain control of the Middle East oil fields, and many other crimes -
is close at hand.
What does this mean for Al Gore? Gore has kept himself in the public eye, coming forth for well publicized lectures on
the need to protect the Constitution, and has retained his following among those who deem him the legitimate
President. For a public announcement that Bush is illegitimate and Gore to replace him in the White House, there is
more than the following among those in government required. The hearts and minds of the public must be ready to
accept the bad news that the White House has been home to a group of criminals by embracing the good news that
someone they respect and are familiar with, in fact elected in 2000 by popular vote, is going to set this right. Thus, the
current press to be the spokesperson for Global Warming has as its real agenda to put Gore into the public view, in a
favorable way. How can he lose, in this current campaign? Global Warming has been the prime excuse for the Earth
changes caused by Planet X, which by general agreement cannot yet to announced to the public. Can Bush counter the
Gore argument by pointing to Planet X? Bush has shown contempt for the changes that a Global Warming excuse
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would require. He refuses to comply with the Koyoto Agreement, insisting that the US as the greatest consumer of
carbon fuels in the world can continue on this splurge, unabated. He gives lip service only to alternative energy
sources, while backing big oil companies all the way.
Meanwhile the fury and frequency of storms pounding the US is on the increase. Bush, already low in the polls
because of the conduct of the War in Iraq and the loss of jobs in the US, will now have the finger pointed at him on yet
another issue. He is the cause of the storms pounding the US, indirectly, by not taking action on Global Warming
issues. One sees on one hand the compassionate and concerned Gore, detailing the steps that should be taken, and on
the other hand the arrogant and detached Bush, dismissive of any action required and with his Katrina response
standing in stark contrast to Gore. This is a clever approach on Gore's part, which Bush cannot win. He cannot point to
Planet X. He cannot, given the expectations of his backers and cronies, suddenly decide that big oil companies need to
change their ways. He has pushed the US into a debt position so there is no room for funding of alternative fuels unless
he backs out of Iraq or changes his position on tax cuts for the rich. He is trapped, and thus can be assumed to stand in
place, rigid, while Gore captures the hearts of those increasingly affected by the weather changes. Disasters in the US,
sure to come as the Earth changes increase, will likewise focus anger on the Bush Administration for their cuts in
social services. When the time comes to overturn those who have stolen the White House, there will be no contest in
where the affections of the public lie. No need to go to the polls. Gore wins this vote, too.
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ZetaTalk: Rove Squeeze
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ZetaTalk: Rove Squeeze
written June 17, 2006 on the live GodlikeProduction Radio show.
Fitzgerald has decided not to indict Rove. Can the Zeta's comment on his decision and secondly can they
give us an update on their discussion concerning the Fitzgerald indictments that were , according to the
Zeta's, delivered to the court on Friday, Oct 21, 2005.
Karl Rove was not excused from indictment because of innocence, a failure on Fitzgerald's part to muster a case
against him. Quite the opposite. This is the story you are hearing from Rove's attorney. Has the public seen the letter
Fitzgerald sent to Luskin, Rove's attorney? Has the public heard from Fitzgerald? It was clear as long ago as the Fall
of 2005 that Fitzgerald had a case against Rove, and for Rove to return to the Grand Jury yet another time in the Spring of 2006 was a signal that he and his attorney were desperate. So what happened? Rove rolled over, under the
unrelenting pressure that Fitzgerald is famous for, and is plea bargaining. The clue to this is the confident and loud
assertion by Luskin that Rove will not be indicted. How could he assert this over the past weeks and months, if he is
not the decision maker? He asserted this because he was bargaining for Rove the whole time, intensely, and knew one
thing for sure. Rove did not want to risk prison, putting his plump pink body into the gang showers, and would sell his
mother to the gypsies to avoid this. It was not a matter of whether Fitzgerald would accept the bargain offered, it was
how far Rove would have to go to satisfy Fitzgerald.
The ultra sealed case, Sealed vs Sealed, so unusual to be almost unheard of in the world of law, indicates one thing.
This case, filed before the judge by the Grand Jury hearing Rove's testimony, was not to be open for review by the
Justice Department, ie Attorney General Gonzales. This is a massive clue as to what the evidence against Rove
included, that George W. Bush was intrinsically involved in the deliberate conspiracy to expose a covert CIA agent.
Where the President and even the Vice President can declassify documents, the motive matters. If this is done simply
for clarification, it's one thing. If the intent is to expose covert CIA operations, quite another. This is treason, a high
crime! One of many Fitzgerald is investigating against the White House. Rove is hardly the loyalist he pretends to be,
as like so many strongly in the Service-to-Self he comes first, without question. Of course, while working in the White
House and chumming up to those he has just stabbed in the back, he'd like this to be kept quiet. To prevent Gonzales
from being able to view the case, as a case titled US vs Sealed would, the prosecutor side was sealed. Only Fitzgerald
can view the case he has filed before the judge.
Where is Fitzgerald going with this? Famous for eating his way up from the bottom, little fish to big fish, he gains
cooperation from underlings until he has a case on the top perpetrators. It has long been rumored by insiders that a
cabal within the federal government is upset enough over the theft of the White House in 2000 and 2004 to take action.
This includes members of Congress, the Judiciary, the Justice department including in particular the FBI, the Pentagon,
and the heart of most of the federal agencies. Given the nature of the Supreme Court, and the slavish obedience the
Republican dominated Congress was paying to Bush, how to go about setting things right? Impeachment was out of
the question, even when treason in placing the US into war on false pretenses was available as the excuse. Breaking
the law on NSA spying only added to the cause, but until the Congress turns into other hands in the Fall of 2006,
impeachment is not a possibility. But the case continues to build! War profiteering by Cheney. Assassination attempts,
well documented. And issues only alluded to recently by the media, such as massive voter fraud coordinated out of the
White House in 2004.
These issues will come to a head at some point, whether initiated by Bush by attempting to declare Martial Law so the
push back against him comes suddenly, or whether initiated by the cabal when the Congress has returned to perform its
Constitutional authority as a check and balance - it will surely come. What is as certain as Fitzgerald's steady march
toward justice is that Bush and Company intend to rule the world as kings in the Aftertime, and not be deposed from
the White House. This is a clash that will come, and if one looks closely, one can see the swords clash and parry now!
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Signs of the Times #1608
Rove Won't Face Indictment in CIA Leak Case [Jun 13] http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/13/ 'The
decision by a special prosecutor not to bring charges against Karl Rove in the CIA leak case
followed months of intense, behind-the-scenes maneuvering between the prosecutor, Patrick J.
Fitzgerald, and Mr. Rove's lawyer, Robert D. Luskin, according to lawyers in the case.' [and from
another] Sealed vs. Sealed [Jun 12] http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/061206Z.shtml 'Four weeks
ago, the grand jury empanelled in the case returned an indictment that was filed under seal in US
District Court for the District of Columbia under the curious heading of Sealed vs. Sealed. The case
number is "06 cr 128." On the federal court's electronic database, "06 cr 128" is listed along with a
succinct summary: "No further information is available." Most federal criminal indictments are filed
under US vs. Sealed.'
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ZetaTalk: Rove's Resignation
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ZetaTalk: Rove's Resignation
written August 14, 2007
Karl Rove to Leave White House [Aug 13] Karl
Rove, the political mastermind behind President
Bush's races for the White House and an
adviser with unparalleled influence over the
past 6 1/2 turbulent years, announced his
resignation, ending a partnership stretching
back more than three decades. It was a major
loss for Bush as he heads into the twilight of his
presidency, battered in the polls, facing a
hostile Democratic Congress and waging an
unpopular war. The president appeared glum as
he joined Rove for the announcement. White
House officials readily acknowledged that
Rove's departure was a blow. He was on board
from the beginning of Bush's political career,
first helping Bush when he ran unsuccessfully
for Congress in 1978. [and from another] Top
White House aide Rove resigns [Aug 13] http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6943814.stm Top White
House aide Karl Rove, seen by many as the brains behind George W Bush's presidency, has said he will
resign at the end of August. Mr Rove has worked with Mr Bush since 1993 when he ran for Texas
governor. As Mr Bush's chief strategist, he is seen as instrumental in delivering election victories in 2000
and 2004. He said he took a final decision to leave after White House Chief of Staff Joshua Bolten told
aides that if they stayed after the end of August they would be obliged to stay in the administration until
Mr Bush's own departure in January 2009.
Of course the resignation of Rove is not what it seems, not what was announced. Bush's presidency is claimed to be
the culmination of all Rove's work, for the past 34 years, yet he is ditching out 16 months early to write a book?
Ditching out just when Bush is struggling with problems that threaten that legacy? Since Rove's exit won't change the
thrust of investigation by Congress, who can subpoena Rove regardless of whether he works for the White House or
not, his exit is not to escape investigation or prosecution for crimes. And Bolton's rule that all remaining after August
would be expected to remain until the end of Bush's tenure is hardly a rule that Rove would feel required to follow. Is
Rove known for his considerations of others? What then is the reason for his early exit? There is a clue in Leahy's
statement: "There is a cloud over this White House, and a gathering storm". The gathering storm is more than
investigations into the firing of US attorneys, it is the compilation of White House crimes that could result in mass
arrests within the White House, replacing the lot and installing Pelosi in the Oval Office. We have alluded to this
matter frequently, particularly in recent months. During the summer of 2007, Bush has made several frantic efforts to impose martial law, to spring into that spot where he can be President for life, declare a draft, imprison and torture
whom he wishes, and finally be able to force the US military to invade Iran and commandeer all the oil fields of the
Middle East. He has been desperately seeking a trigger event that will cascade what he assumes to be the public
response.
On June 26 he attempted to announce a state of emergency, martial law, to the public, using the Emergency Action Notification network. This failed, due to human intervention by those blocking Bush, but his state of desperation was
duly noted. It was also clear that some kind of fake terrorism was being planned, with the announcement by Chertoff
of a "gut feeling" about this. We stated at the time that the White House planned to announce that terorism had
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occurred, thus inciting panic in the public, rioting, that would support their martial law plans. The recent New York
City bomb threat was such a plan. This failed, again due to human intervention. Anticipating more such acts of
desperation, the contingent prepared to arrest the White House has mobilized and is prepared to act swiftly. August is
the vacation month, when Congress is away, thus is a month when Bush could presume success in his endeavors. Thus,
Chertoff's gut feeling.
Rove plea bargained with Fitzgerald, giving him emails and sworn testimony, now in the hands of the Judiciary. His
testimony alone on the Plame matter could indict both Bush and Cheney, though Fitzgerald could indict on dozens of
other issues. Rove went beyond the Plame matter, as he was seeking to save his own skin. True to those strongly in the
Service-to-Self, his loyalty to Bush had at its base only loyalty to Rove, to himself. He spilled his guts, buttressing the
papers and email he provided with testimony and details from his famous memory for minutia. Fitzgerald now owns
him, especially since any trial would take months or years and Rove can see that Bush might not be in a position to
pardon him by then. The horror of prison for his pudgy butt, of being in a physical environment where he would not
have any cards to play, rose once again. Rove was told in the event of any arrests, he would be expected to testify for
the prosecution, as promised, or face indictment himself. Thus, he seeks to distance himself, physically, from the
White House. If you knew that smoke bombs and storm troopers were on the agenda, would you stick around? He
wants to view it on TV, from afar. He is hoping not to be called to testify at all, that his testimony won't be necessary.
Certainly, if he were still working in the White House, there would be questions about why he was not being arrested.
Removed, he hopes these questions are not raised.
What has Rove told Bush as his reason for resigning? Bush does not handle harsh facts well, but he likewise is aware
from the failure of his latest efforts to declare martial law that there is a contingent working against him. This is a
conclusion even his limited intelligence would conclude. He rages about this, but ranting won't make it go away. It's
out of his control. As we, the Zetas, are assisting the humans working against him, and can use teleporting and
cloaking as assists, he is not even sure who is involved. He does not know who to suspect. He does not know who the
enemy is. Even Rove, with his insight and famous ability to plot, had no suggestions that seemed to be working. They
both concluded that Bush's plans for martial law, his plans to be able to rule over the oil fields of the Middle East,
were going to fail. It is now a death watch in the White House, resignation and spin control and an attempt to come
out with what they can salvage. Rove presented his resignation to Bush as a means to build support for Bush as an ex
president. The resignation would free his time to rally the faithful, to ensure those elected in 2008 had his best interests
in mind. That these were all lies, on the part of Rove, did not concern him. The Service-to-Self lie, all the time.
A Shakespearean drama is about to unfold,
Support for the US debt will steadily drop,
with the synergy of undercutting of the Bush
while the 2006 elections take place and
Administration creating a maelstrom under
Congress changes its face to a more
him that will astonish those who thought him
aggressive stance against Bush. Talk of
strong. Bush busting, a decapitation of his
impeachment, once not dared to be uttered,
influence such that the US is no longer run
will increase. Congress will take over, running
from the White House, but is on auto-pilot
the nation if only by blocking Bush at every
according to law and conscience.
front.
ZetaTalk: Decapitation Process, written
ZetaTalk: Iran Boondoggle, written Mar
Aug 19, 2005
17, 2006
It has long been rumored by insiders that a
We have warned, almost on a weekly basis on
cabal within the federal government is upset
the GLP live chats, that there is a
enough over the theft of the White House in
confrontation building between the Bush White
2000 and 2004 to take action. This includes
House and those in the government who know
members of Congress, the Judiciary, the
the White House to be a criminal enterprise,
Justice department including in particular the
one that is also illicit due to voter fraud in the
FBI, the Pentagon, and the heart of most of the 2000 and 2004 presidential elections.
federal agencies. Until the Congress turns into Fitzgerald has massive amounts of
other hands in the Fall of 2006, impeachment
documented evidence that has already been
is not a possibility. But the case continues to
presented to the Judicial system. There is a
build! These issues will come to a head at
growing contingent in the Judicial system, the
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some point, whether initiated by Bush by
US military, the Congress, and the FBI who
attempting to declare Martial Law so the push are of the opinion that the entire White House
back against him comes suddenly, or whether
should be arrested. A public arrest of the
initiated by the cabal when the Congress has
White House criminals is unlikely to happen
returned to perform its Constitutional
unless the fight breaks out into the public view,
authority as a check and balance - it will
which given the urgency Bush feels, just might
surely come.
happen!
ZetaTalk: Rove Squeeze, written June 17,
ZetaTalk: Executive Orders, written July
2006
21, 2007
Fitzgerald did bring indictments to court on
Fitzgerald is seeking a plea agreement with
Friday, but the court did not quash them.
Karl Rove. Because of his closeness with Bush
Many of these judges are aware of and
and Cheney, he is Machiavelliann in his
horrified at the law breaking, the theft from
contacts. He is almost at the helm of
Gore, as well as the treasonous acts to get the conspiracies. So it may be a bit prolonged, but
nation into war with Iraq.
Karl Rove is in the clutches and cannot
ZetaTalk: Fitzgerald Indictments, written escape.
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ZetaTalk: GodlikeProduction Live,
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ZetaTalk: Social Security Scam
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Note: written on Dec 15, 2000
A prominent promise make by the GOP, during the 2000 Presidential debates, was to allow the public to invest part of
their social security moneys in the Stock Market. This was proffered as an advantage to young wage earners, to have
the same growth opportunities for their moneys as individuals investing their own private savings. Is this true, and if
true, why has such an opportunity not been offered before? Social Security was designed, during the Depression era, to
provide an absolutely fail-safe means of returning to oldsters or those unable any longer to work, what they have
invested into the fund. A hallmark, especially after the debacle of the 1929 Stock Market crash, was to make these
funds protected, not to put them at risk.
This philosophy continued until the Reagan administration, when borrowing from the Social Security funds became
rampant. These borrowed funds were placed into the Military Industrial Complex, which somehow was to placate all
those in the populace whose funds were being squandered. Now that the same crowd will be back in power, or so they
assume, this squandering of the public trust is to reach new heights. Running the national debt up again is only one of
such squandering maneuvers, to be cloaked in excuses about military preparedness. The larger theft and picking of the
public's pocketbooks will come about due to investments of Social Security funds into the volatile and soon-to-crash
Stock Market. Why would such an offer be made to the public, and what will the outcome be?
Those among the elite, which includes the banking establishment, can see the writing on the wall as to the outcome of
the earth changes already in effect and the ability of the Earth to sustain its current human population. Starvation and
economic depression are right around the corner. With this will come bank failures, stock market crashes, and the rich
scrambling to maintain what will become a fragile position above the masses, what they have always considered their
slave class. They seek to delay this as long as possible. They seek to offset their losses, turning this onto those they
have always had disdain for - the working class. They seek to maintain the Stock Market by investments from the
naïve, to keep an inflated market heat going while they make their own arrangements for survival.
When the crash comes, the public will stand in stunned silence while the wealthy count what they have managed to put
aside for themselves. The message will be that all have suffered, when of course this is not the case. Those with
foreknowledge of what is to come have been able to prepare, to buy land and stock supplies, to create what they hope
will be safe enclaves. Those whose investments have supported the elite while they prepare will know only that they
can expect financial rewards, have joined the upper classes in being able to invest, and will be duped until the last
minute.
If one doubts that those who have promised such an opportunity for the working public to invest in the Stock Market
have a firm allegiance to the banking establishment, look to the cry that was made when the election outcome was
delayed. What cry was raised? That the banking industry might get nervous, due to this uncertainty. Was any word
said about the working public getting nervous? It is clear where the loyalties of the GOP lie, and where the loyalties of
the current administration lie.
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ZetaTalk: Increasing Irrelevance
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Note: written on Dec 15, 2000
The US Government has considered itself a leader in the world - the pre-eminent democracy, a world power
unparalleled by any other both in economics and military might. If the Constitution is abandoned, to be replaced by an
essential dictatorship by the wealthy and powerful, how might this leadership erode, and what will be the outcome?
Each government, around the world, will face the coming changes both as an individual country and in partnership
with other countries. Third world countries will have the fewest adjustments in this regard, having been used for their
resources or global strategic position. They will understand that they must struggle alone, and will not be surprised
when they handouts and support promised are cut off, as they will be. Countries that have become a nuclear power will
be treated with harsh warnings, but will scarcely pay attention as they themselves will be focused inward to their
restless and starving populace.
Industrial countries, which have come to rely upon each other in trade and as partners during conflicts, will dither to a
disappointed silence as promise after promise between partnering countries are broken. Finally, each will focus inward
toward its own populace. World economics will become national economics, then local economics, then family
economics, as times get worse. Thus a partisan US Government, protecting the elite in enclaves, will be overlooked
and ignored by the citizens of the world, and eventually by its own citizenry. Like winter and summer, seasons that
cannot be changed but must be suffered or lived through, the citizenry will treat a government that does not care about
it as irrelevant. Taxes that are collected by force will be paid, but enthusiasm for programs clearly not in their interest
will be ignored. The citizenry will make its own plans, and not include the government in these plans, so that
eventually the elite are ensconced in their enclaves and the citizenry have made their arrangements elsewhere, and they
function like island societies in an ocean, apart and essentially unaware of each other.
Is this what the elite wish? They wish for a devoted citizenry, looking to them for leadership and following programs
outlined for them like sheep following the shepherd. Without a devoted citizenry, the elite will be left to their
resources, which will diminish. This will make them anxious, but when communications break down, the only citizens
they can bother will be those hapless souls living close at hand, who will become serfs or slaves or worse during the
ensuing frantic breakdown in social standards. The elite, to the end, will try to entice the citizenry to work for them,
near them, depending upon them in some manner or another. The citizenry, disenchanted, will decline, and slip away.
Leaders who do not deserve the leadership position they hold, who have assumed it by fraud and force and sleight of
hand, are treated as irrelevant.
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ZetaTalk: Face of Fear
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written Dec 19, 2005
The US will find itself without An arrogant insistence that
He will take the Bush camp
cooperation when reaching out Iran submit to dictates is being down, in subtle and not so
for help to other countries in
issued, so the US can have a
subtle ways, reducing their
their endeavors while the
united front under the Russian influence in the world and
Puppet Master enacts financial oil fields, from Iraq to Iran to
within the United States to
revenge, punishing the US to
Pakistan. Has the Bush crowd noise - irrelevant, discredited,
weaken Bush and Cheney.
lost its grasp on reality?
despised, and ignored.
ZetaTalk: Diebold
ZetaTalk: Wizard of
ZetaTalk: Bush
Wins,
Oz,
Busting,
written Nov 3, 2004
written Feb 27, 2005
written Nov 27, 2004
We predicted, after the 2004 Presidential election was stolen via voter fraud, that the Puppet Master would decapitate
the Bush Administration in revenge. Wanting Kerry installed as President, so the US Military would again have a
Commander in Chief they would respect and follow, he found himself with yet more years of Bush, whom the military
was in revolt against. The Puppet Master wanted the oil fields of the Middle East secure for his operations, not in
flames and civil war, the result of the Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld blundering. The Puppet Master wanted the US Military
used to protect his assets, worldwide, not exhausted and shattered and in revolt. The Bush crowd had asserted
themselves as world kings, peers with the Puppet Master, and taken matters into their own hands. Revenge, however,
was at hand, and we spelled out the ways the Bush administration would meet their demise. How have our predictions
played out?
After the election, on Nov 3, 2004, we predicted that what Bush calls the coalition would suffer losses, with country after country pulling back and no fresh help available for Iraq. This has occurred.
We also predicted financial revenge by the Puppet Master, who in essence controls the Federal Reserve of the
US. Have the interest rates not consistently increased, each quarter, despite the rise of bankrupting corporations
and job losses in the US?
The debt load of the US continues to rise, while the dollar drops, so the US bonds deliver a loss, a negative return on
investment. Country after country has reduced their influx of cash to support the US debt. Where is this leading?
Support for the DOW is manipulated by insider trading, known as the Plunge Protection Team. Taxpayer money to
maintain the DOW comes from the coffers of DOD contractors who pledge their pension funds to the DOW in return
for price increases on the products they sell to the DOD. How long will this continue now that Congress has found a
backbone and is now questioning the endless amounts of money needed, supposedly, for Iraq? And using Social
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Security funds to prop up the DOW is not possible, another failed Bush initiative.
We predicted, on Aug 19, 2005, as a recap on the decapitation process, that three volleys would be used during this process. The first, the financial squeeze mentioned above.
The second, unveiling political corruption in the Bush White House. At that time, the Downing Street memo had
just emerged, but since August, the Delay and Libby indictments, using the NSA for domestic spying, GAO
confirmation of voter fraud possibilities, the 911 cover-up allowed to hit the new, and 2004 voter fraud evidence
allowed to hit the news.
The third volley, eroding public sentiment. What was it we saw on TV the other day, on CNN, Jib-Jab joking
about Bush incompetence and lies? He has become the target of ridicule, everywhere.
We predicted at that time that a maelstrom undercutting Bush would occur, as the Puppet Master had set this into
play and there had not yet been a battle that he has lost. Look at the face of fear, the Bush face, as he deals with
a Patriot Act setback in the Senate, the revelation that he signed illegal Executive Orders to spy on US citizens
without court supervision, and calls for a withdrawal of US troops from Iraq being made daily from an
emboldened Congress.
Why would these setbacks create this climate of fear in Bush, when not out of keeping with what has been occurring
for months? Is the NSA revelation worse than the Downing Street Memo? Is the loss of the Patriot Act support worse
than his failure to deliver Social Security funds to Wall Street? Is lack of an exit strategy worse than the CIA rendition
and torture camp revelations? What happened to the bravado, the cocky swagger? To understand the mindset, look to
the reaction of a bully when cornered and overpowered. The bully exalts in his ability to create pain and panic in his
victims, but when the tables are turned, is shown to be a coward. Up until this time, the Bush crowd considered the US
military their weapon, Congress under their thumb, the US Treasury their perpetual blank check as they could simply
print money if needed, world opinion irrelevant as the invasion in Iraq showed, and the court system willing to be
dictated to.
As we explained on Jul 11, 2003, the Bush crowd plan was to install themselves as Kings in the Aftertime by using the
US military to guard all the oil fields of the world. This required invading Iraq, a withdrawal plan irrelevant as the plan
was to never withdraw, and from this position invading Iran and Saudi Arabia and then up into the oil fields of Russia
via Pakistan. Today we have Russia and China and Iran forming a solid defense, and no support for a US push into
Iran. Blair is on the ropes in the UK. Shock 1. Having Bush and Cheney and Condi run around the world for face-to-
face meetings changes nothing. The US is seen as exhausted and broke, a paper tiger who can no longer threaten or
bribe, and is no longer being treated with respect. Shock 2. There are demands in Congress for an exit strategy, firm
dates and numbers, even holding funding for the DOD hostage until compliance with torture laws is part of the
package. There goes control of the oil fields. Shock 3. The Patriot Act, considered solid as control of Congress was
considered solid, is now being challenged and may dissolve completely. Is Martial Law even possible unless spying
without warrants and arrest of US citizens as enemy combatants, all based on the whim of Bush, is in place? Shock 4.
Where much of this is not new, the Bush administration has been famous for living in a bubble. One Bush
administration illusion after another is being dashed, until the reality of their situation is finally facing them. They do
not control the military, which is in full rebellion. There goes control of the oil fields, no invading Venezuela or Iran,
etc. They no longer control the Congress, and as poll numbers are not improving despite desperate attempts to charm
the public lately, this will only erode further as the 2006 elections loom closer. They are failing to pack the Supreme
Court, as the Senate is insisting on putting their investigation of Bush maneuvers ahead of confirmation hearings.
Revelations on their complicity in 911, failure to take steps to prevent 911 from happening, are on the horizon, as are
revelations of the extent of the voter fraud in 2004. Financial disaster is being held at bay only by illegal financial
manipulation, which might be exposed at any time, given the Puppet Masters rage and determination.
Might they be impeached? Might they be in jail when the pole shift hits, subject to the sadism of prison guards and
inmates? Might they be unable to muster defense of their bunkers, or not be allowed into the bunkers, when the time
comes? This is the face of fear you see.
Signs of the Times #1525
Bush's Candor on Iraq Draws Praise [Dec 19] I know that some of my decisions have led to terrible
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loss - and not one of those decisions has been taken lightly, Bush declared in a televised speech to
the nation Sunday, his first from the Oval Office since announcing the invasion of Iraq in March
2003. He held out the promise that when the Iraqi military gains strength and self-government
moves forward, "it should require fewer American troops to accomplish our mission. I will make
decisions on troop levels based on the progress we see." The language was not specific enough for
Bush's critics.' [and from another] Behind Power, One Principle as Bush Pushes Prerogatives [Dec
16] New York Times : 'A single, fiercely debated legal principle lies behind nearly every major
initiative in the Bush administration's war on terror, scholars say: the sweeping assertion of the
powers of the presidency. The Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 typically requires
warrants for the kind of eavesdropping carried out under the special NSA program. When President
Carter signed the act into law in 1978, he seemed to rule out any domestic eavesdropping without
court approval.'
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ZetaTalk: MJ12 Demise
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Note: written on Dec 15, 2000
Under what circumstances would the agreement between ourselves, the Service-to-Other Zetas, and MJ12 end. This is
an unlimited engagement, which means that it lasts until the death of one or the other. As ourselves, the Service-to-
Other Zetas, are many and out of reach of any conflicts or occurrences on Earth, we are not likely, as a group or a
race, to die out. As MJ12 is an agency, however secret, of the US Government, it is more fragile. Is the US
Government about to die? Yes, by many steps that might occur prior to the impending pole shift, and certainly at the
point of the shift. What is the US Government, and what would cause it to die, in our opinion, so as to end our
agreement with MJ12 and cease the travel service, complete with cloaking, that we now provide to MJ12.
The US Government is founded on the Constitution, and its Amendments, a solemn and well-published document
upon which federal law is grounded. Inherent in this document is that the US is a democracy, by and for the people.
Elections of the governed are based on popular vote, taxation by representation, and the assumption is that the
government is serving the people, although this is often buried in layers of government self service in that so many
positions and jobs are created and maintained, endlessly. What would occur, beyond the scandalous and obvious
infraction of these premises during the past election of President of the US in 2000?
The US Government could stop serving the people, and instead start serving itself. This would occur when
hardship descends upon the country to the extent that the government finds it can no longer do its sworn duty to
the people, and is faced with the choice of either closing down, honestly, or moving into self service, blatantly.
The carry-on government is one such blatant move into self-service. If the situation was such that the original
government cannot continue, then how does the carry-on government expect to serve the people? This is
arrogant self-service, not service to the people.
The US Government could find itself in a position of not being able to serve the people, though willing. This
would occur if the representatives and bureaucrats were moved to a safe location, but cut off from any avenue
whereby they can provide service. Simply moving the government from Washington DC to another locale,
complete with storage of foods stuffs and other means of survival, does not constitute a government - it
represents an attempt to maintain such a government for the benefit of those maintained, solely.
The US Government could find itself disbursing, in the face of calamity, with desertion in the ranks and empty
offices, and still voices when explanations to the people should be made - a basic avoidance of responsibility on
most fronts. This would occur if starvation and imminent disaster were so overwhelming that those in
government sticking to their posts were unable to offer any hope whatsoever, and those in responsibility for
planning and operations had run for the hills, avoiding their responsibility. This is a government that has
collapsed, and has thus died.
The US Government could, in an effort to serve a select few and keep the masses at bay, declare Martial Law.
This step inevitably amounts to serving a few, usually the wealthy and powerful, while pushing to the side to
their own resources the under-privileged majority. This is not what the Constitution is based upon, and unless
the people themselves are truly at risk, and the steps taken to rescue them, Martial Law is in effect acting as
though the Constitution has been set aside, no matter how this is explained by those setting this in motion.
What would the demise of MJ12 mean, insofar as we, the Service-to-Other Zetas are concerned? In that MJ12 no
longer speaks to the Service-to-Self aliens they originally began talking to when MJ12 was formed, it means they have
no agreement with any alien group, no travel service complete with cloaking so the public is not aware of their
activities during such travel, and no information provided by ourselves. MJ12 members are just people, and beyond
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calling themselves otherwise, they have no special powers. They have knowledge, which the public at large does not,
but beyond this, they are not special.
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ZetaTalk: Suicide
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Note: written on Jan 15, 2001
After the Supreme Court maneuver, when Bush was destined to become President, we warned that there would be a
Social Security scam, swinging money to Wall Street to bolster Wall Street so it would not crash as soon as it surely
will, and to watch for the new administration to be heavily loyal to industrial interests and special interests of the
wealthy, and to expect that enclaves of the wealthy would be protected by the military and the average man would be
cut loose to his own resources. We also mentioned that our association with MJ12 was not necessarily going to
continue, because it was an agreement made with the US Government, and arm of which became the Secret
Government. A US Government cannot just call itself a US Government, it must in fact act like a US Government for
our agreement to continue. Our agreement is null and void if the US Government serves only the special few and not
the people it is sworn to serve, if it is no longer a democracy because martial law has been imposed, and for many
other similar reasons.
Because, over the years, Presidents have tried to prevent the incoming President from knowing about and using MJ12,
it has increasingly been cut away from the White House and became an independent arm. MJ12 has been populated by
various civil servants, in the intel organizations to some extent, and some individuals who have never had any
government service but who were pulled into MJ12 service due to their expertise or their position to help on a
particular issue. All of the approximately 2,000 people who entered MJ12 and became members agreed, and signed an
agreement, to allow MJ12 to assassinate them should they begin leaking information or financially gaining from
information they learned from their MJ12 association. So it wasn’t a large group, and the governing board of 40 was
certainly not a large group, but the governing board in particular was very independent. The President could not pull
their strings. The Vice President was a member, but not a member of the governing board.
Because of the distress the governing boards of MJ12 felt over what they were certain were plans to misuse the Zeta
travel service, they disbanded themselves. This happened in December, after the election, and they allowed a two week
closedown. During that period there was a reforming of a new group composed of MJ12 members who had no
association with the government in their past or present, because this was deemed to be a loyalty problem where they
could be pulled in more than one direction.
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ZetaTalk: Misuse
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Note: written on Jan 15, 2001
Over the past few years, we have enjoyed working with MJ12 as it has become a group of solidly positive and good-
hearted people in the governing boards, due to the serious nature of the alien presence and the work that MJ12
performed. When an assignment came to replace someone who was exiting due to ill health or death, a life member of
the governing board, those assigning a new member would select the best person they knew rather than some political
hack. They chose serious minded people who were invariably spiritually mature. Consequently, MJ12 developed to be
better than 50% solidly Service-to-Other oriented, a much higher percentage than the Earth’s population at large,
which is closer to 27% Service-to-Other at present.
So we had begun to do some very good work with this group, and would have been loath to break this relationship, but
we would be driven to this if our commitment to provide a travel service to MJ12 were to be misused by the
Bush/Cheney crowd.
This crowd is not what it seems, as the public face is a front for a group which is not as benign as either Bush or
Cheney would appear to be. Do not be misled. This is a group intent on serving themselves and not the public it is
supposed to be serving. So in viewing this potential, and knowing the background, and knowing the individuals behind
the scenes who pulled the strings to take the election away from the popular vote, which quite clearly went to Gore,
MJ12 was distressed. The Zeta travel service in particular offered potential for misuse, as it allowed a cloaking of any
MJ12 member who could be transported anywhere, and dropped into any home or business, teleported behind closed
doors so that there were no locked doors or secrets or safes or people who could not be kidnapped from their beds.
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ZetaTalk: New MJ12
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Note: written on Jan 15, 2001
The members of MJ12 who formed the new group have in almost all cases physically disappeared so that you could
not find them in the phone book or locate them. The government cannot hack at them. They don’t have relatives or
children so they cannot be harmed in that way. They are free agents. The new MJ12 group has determined an agenda
and course of action.
To prevent disinformation and misinformation from ruling.
Not that it cannot be spread, but it cannot prevail as the only message the people receive. They want
the public to receive the truth. They will arrange to have cover-ups exploded and leaks to occur and
countering information to come up from unusual sources.
To maintain the democratic ideal.
They do not want to see democracy completely bite the dust and martial law imposed so that people
become literally serfs of the wealthy or powerful at gunpoint of the military. This new group is not
restricted in the same way the old group of MJ12 was, in that the old MJ12 had rules. There was a
need-to-know basis between the various intel organizations and arms they utilized, the CIA and
FBI. In many cases these agencies had no idea they were doing an MJ12 service. So MJ12 had full
access to the government bureaucracy and agents, but they had many rules, such as not assassinating
somebody who was in the public eye. Therefore, someone in the public eye could get away with
maneuvers and thumb their nose, so to speak, at MJ12, knowing they were a public figure and
therefore could not be taken out. This group does not have such restrictions.
To retaliate against the initiator, not the agents.
They are carrying forward an earlier MJ12 routine, which was to attack the instigator of an action,
rather than any agent. In other words, if a high level executive of a corporation desired to have
something blown up or someone killed, when this was against MJ12’s rules, they would punish the
person setting off the bomb or person carrying the gun. These people would be stopped, but the
person to be retaliated against would be the person setting this in motion, in this case the executive,
who would be tortured in front of his compatriots or killed. This stopped a lot of nonsense in that
those who would create chaos tend to live in fear of having this come right back at them in their
front door, like a type of karma. So this new group is continuing this and going right to the top to
the person who has perpetrated the crime, rather than to punish the agents and it is remarkable how
effective this is.
This new group is very effective and has been functioning for some weeks at the time of this writing. The group has no
name. You can call it the new MJ12 if you wish, and if and when they decide on a name they will announce
themselves through ZetaTalk. In such a group as ours, a close-knit group, working effectively together, where there
are human telepaths who communicate with us as Nancy does, pretty effectively, names are not necessary.
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ZetaTalk: Aftertime MJ12
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Note: Written during Dec 8, 2001 Live ZetaTalk IRC session.
The new MJ12 will be the least devastated during the coming shift, in terms of communications capabilities and travel
and a safe and secure place to live. These individuals who formed the new MJ12 are with us, being to a one highly
Service-to-Other. They are living on the surface of Earth, in 3rd Density, with a group of Zetas who do likewise in
order to live with those humans who have teamed with us as a result of prior association with MJ12 and the necessity
of our being present, so to speak, at all times. Just where these living quarters are is not something we care to
announce. They are, to facilitate travel and pickup, of course wearing implants. None of these folks, nor we, have any
time to lose. Their travel is via the means offered to the old MJ12, with our space ships and the cloaking they can
effect, so they are invisible. Their agenda has changed little since we announced the formation of this group.
Their communications are highly telepathic, as there are a number of telepaths employed formerly by the old MJ12
among them. We boost this capability so this communication means by these humans is enhanced. The old MJ12 had
40 members on 2 boards, but no females. Due to the nature of the old MJ12, there are few females in the new MJ12.
But there are a few. This group is likely to grow, over time, after the shift, as conscious awareness of the alien
presence is all that qualifies for initiation. That, and a strongly Service-to-Other orientation, of course. The count today
of the new MJ12 member is 57, but this in no way compares to the old MJ12 which had approximately 2,000 member,
of which President George W. Bush was one, and Cheney.
How will matters change for this group, who have left human society in the main, after the shift? They will find
humans more open to their message, having suffered the shift as ZetaTalk has predicted. They will be busy helping
Service-to-Other communities become aware of the wider world and universe, no small deed in that introduction to
alien lifeforms may indeed be made with the new MJ12 being ambassadors. They will be busy continuing their agenda,
which is to block and frustrate Service-to-Self human groups from having their way on the new Earth. Thus, they will
be busier than ever, as will Nancy and some of her human acquaintances.
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ZetaTalk: Only the US
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Note: written on Oct 15, 1995
In spite of wild rumor to the contrary, no other governments outside of the United States have an agreement with alien
groups.
The US was targeted early by ourselves for several reasons, but primarily because our hybrid program was to be based
in the US. The US, as a melting pot, has a broader genetics pool than any other country. Where it has been reported
that the US government granted us permission to abduct their citizenry, their permission was not required. The hybrid
program is conducted with volunteers, and the US government is not consulted. Period. A secondary reason we desired
an alliance with the US government was due to their position of leadership in the world, a position they still hold. The
US is the signal democracy, which was assisted in its birth by many aliens in the Service-to-Other responding to The
Call, and has more than met the expectations of those who assisted. Both the government and citizenry of the US
expect leadership of themselves, and are tolerant and supportive of innovation because of this. The US is head and
shoulders above the rest of the world in innovation, bar none. This environment was perceived by ourselves to be the
most fruitful for Zeta/human alliances in Service-to- Other activities during the Transformation, and is meeting our
expectations in this regard.
Thus, because we and others in the Service-to-Others wished an alliance with the US government, the Roswell
incident was staged in order to initiate discussion. And it was because of our desire to contact the US government that
those in the Service-to-Self rushed in to do their best to ruin our plans. Activities at Area 51 and Dulce are not our
activities, but are the dying remnants of games by the Service-to-Self designed to drive a wedge between ourselves and
the US government. They did not succeed, and the games are now in a mopping up phase, closing down. Those in the
Service-to-Self have not contacted other governments because there was no party to spoil. It's as simple as that.
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ZetaTalk: Russian MJ12
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ZetaTalk: Russian MJ12
Note: written on Sep 15, 1999
MJ12 as an organization exists only within the United States, but the US has used it's relationships with other countries
to extend it's reach. Of course, such a matter as the alien presence being real, and the approach of the coming
cataclysms, makes friends of enemies. Details were shared, without ever leaving any proof in foreign hands, so that
allies and enemies alike were stunned and shaken, and thereafter cooperative with any plan. It has long been suspected
that Russia and the US almost pretended to be enemies, so as to push an agenda that would save the earth from alien
invasion. This is true, but is more easily accomplished than would be imagined. It is not difficult, where a conflict
exists, to continue it, as those in charge of continuing the conflict are kept ignorant. These are pawns, to be
manipulated by those very high up, who know the larger truth.
Thus moneys were spent on military matters, which were a good cover for the work of saving the planet from a
supposed alien invasion. This invasion of course could not occur, as anyone reading the Rules section of ZetaTalk
would understand, but this has only recently been understood by those at the highest levels of the major powers in the
world. Of course, in most countries so included in the inner circle of such knowledge, an organization similar to MJ12
would spring up, to handle and manage the programs. However, they do not have the alien contacts that MJ12 does, as
they were not deemed as important in world influence as the US.
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ZetaTalk: US/Russian
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ZetaTalk: US/Russian
Note: written during the Dec 28, 2002 IRC Session
The US and Russia were not enemies when Reagan and Gorbachev met in the capital of Island Reykyavik,
where at the press-conference Reagan said as a joke, ‘If aliens will come down on earth then the US and
Soviet Union will join in a union to fight these aliens’. It was one of the long discussed issues between the
Soviet Union and the US. They spent a few hours talking about it.
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It has long been rumored, due mostly to Reagan's tendency to have lose lips while dealing with early senility, that high
level discussions about aliens, and Armageddon, occurred among heads of state. Reagan was rumored to be obsessed
with Armageddon, the End Times, talking at length about this to visitors to the White House. Reagan was known to
have made the statements, publicly and on film, that were the Earth to be invaded by aliens from outer space, that all
countries would band together, put their differences aside. Were there such high level talks, in particular between
Russian and the US during Reagan's time? Indeed there were, and they went beyond talk. Agreements were signed,
locked away in the places the secret governments of both countries maintained in those days, not to be available to the
public who was being misled utterly about the alien presence.
Like the rumors about Martial Law about to be imposed in the US, papers signed, FEMA put into control, and the
ultra-right in the US trying to start this process early by the OKC bombing and the TWA800 missile attack. These
rumors have a solid basis in truth, but what is not understood is how difficult it is for such secret agreements to
become law, accepted by the populace. One day Russian and the US are enemies, on all fronts, and the next they are
working as partners? Never mind what you were told yesterday, your emotions engaged, all manner of exaggeration
given to enflame your emotions, today it is all different. This simply does not fly, and the public figure trying to work
such a quick-change viewed with suspicion. Perhaps they have gone mad, been taking drugs, had a stroke, or
otherwise lost it. They are discounted. In like manner, should the Bush Administration, by general agreement or forced
to do so, decide that Martial Law should be imposed, the public would hardly just go along. The reluctance would be
so disruptive, passive aggressive at the very least, that the nation would come to a standstill. This would not simply be
the public, assumed to be pushed around by guns, but the gun holders, the military! Such quick-change, without
explanation, ordered from above, does not succeed.
What was the agreement the Russians and the US signed, back in Reagans day? As stated by the senile President
Reagan to the public, all guns would be pointed outward, all information shared, with neither joining into an agreement
with the aliens. It has been rumored that Russia has its version of MJ12 as well, and this is true. A secret government,
aware of the alien presence, and ambitious for alien technology. Where the US had possession of alien ships, which
they could not reverse engineer or control, the Russians were only allowed to participate on the good graces of the US
military, who was very jealous of their possessions. What was clear to the Russians, however, was that the US was not
succeeding in gaining any technology, and thus these talks fell by the wayside. The truth of the matter became
apparent, that no technology would be made available to humans, and no invasion was pending.
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ZetaTalk: Elected Officials
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ZetaTalk: Elected Officials
Note: written on Nov 15, 1995
How much does any President learn about MJ12, and what does the smarmy group that calls itself the Congress of the
United States know? Next to nothing, and this more by rumor and innuendo. MJ12 limits its membership on a need-
to-know basis, which should not surprise anyone as it is run by military intelligence units. Why would the current
Congress or its current President need to know anything when they are just passing through? Of course, they demand
to know more but can't find the end of the string much less pull strings. MJ12 is not in the phone book, does not have
a budget, is run by people who have parallel titles within the bureaucracies, so as an organization MJ12 is invisible.
Those who are in the know are people whom MJ12 has contacted. They choose, and introductions or inquiries simply
don't come from the other direction. Those in the know are contacted because MJ12 desires something from them -
services or cooperation or knowledge. These most often are individuals who already have security clearance, be they
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