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density switching and space travel without accidents, where groups in the Service-to-Other do not have accidents. In

regards to whether the crashes are more than accidents, are perhaps a deliberate message, there is some of this mixed

in. As anyone who has read ZetaTalk extensively knows, there have been several instances where the Council of

Worlds allows interference with human affairs during the Transformation. Power outages, our contact with MJ12,

occasional time travel to facilitate meetings during a crowded schedule - all these are exceptions to the Rule of Non-

Interference.

Many dramas take place behind the scenes, and something as complex as the US Military has many faces and many

different agendas. With panic over the coming cataclysms just around the corner, many planned to use the confusion

for personal power plays. They are being given the message that this will not be allowed! Martial law, a dream of

some, will find impediments in its way, beyond what humans wishing to counter such maneuvers could muster. For

those generals too arrogant to understand that they cannot rule, some dramatic demonstrations of just what alien

interference can mean are necessary. They become lulled with the concept that aliens are here in a hands-off mode,

watching and only conferring when asked. During the Transformation, however, the Earth will increasingly become a

home for Service-to-Others of all densities, and these entities will increasingly have a right to interfere as they will be

considered residents of Earth.

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ZetaTalk: Reverse Engineered

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ZetaTalk: Reverse Engineered

Note: written on Jul 15, 1997

The rapid pace whereby technology grows by leaps and bounds, exponentially as the years pass, has resulted in

speculation that this is due to alien technology secured from crashed ships and reverse engineered by the military and

their civilian cohorts in the military industrial complex. This is completely false, and in fact is simply a rumor started

by those individuals within the military industrial complex who wish to be elevated in the eyes of the populace and

fear losing their jobs and prestige during budget cutbacks.

Stealth technology was developed to mock what the military was observing in alien ship movements and the

ability to disappear in a wink. The new stealth technology was quite within the realm of humans to develop, as it

is simply using a shape to evade radar, and not all that effectively we might add.

Night vision goggles are simply screening out all but infrared and then boosting this light spectrum. In this,

human scientists are also dealing with concepts long understood by humans, such as light spectrums and the

chemistry and electrical stimulation of these light spectrums.

Fiber optics is a technology which evolved due to experiments in communications over mediums other than the

expensive and increasingly diminishing supply of copper. Glass has been used by mankind for eons, an

accidental discovery resulting from sand lying under extremely hot bon fires on the beach. All manner of

substances were experimented with in laboratories, in an attempt to find a cheap alternative to copper, all of

which had nothing to do with the alien presence or technology. Do we appear to need wires to support our

communication or ability to maneuver?

Integrated circuitry is nothing more than increasingly convoluted circuitry which mankind has had in their

possession decades before Roswell, a natural outgrowth of the human tendency to tinker with any tool they have.

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ZetaTalk: American Computer Co.

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ZetaTalk: American Computer Co.

Note: written on Jan 15, 1998

The American Computer Company is most certainly not in possession of any technology from alien ships or of alien

origin. They are, in fact, not even in possession of anything that works! Close examination will find they are in what is

termed the experimental stage, and there it will sit. Why all this noise, and why does this company talk in terms of a

developed and ready-to-market product? They do themselves no harm, bring themselves attention, and are doing

nothing more than is typically done with new technology - talking about it in glowing terms when it has not yet been

proven. Beyond these issues, however, is another factor, as the secret government known as MJ12 has requested their

assistance in testing the public's reaction to such talk, in line with the Corso book on Roswell.

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ZetaTalk: Crash at Kecksburg

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ZetaTalk: Crash at Kecksburg

Note: written on Jun 15, 1996

Among the many fraudulent stories about crashed ships in the possession of the military are some stories that seem

real. The local populace makes numerous observations, and there are tell-tale signs that remain for the curious explorer

to see long afterwards. Well, in these situations, something is going on, it's just that it's not of an alien origin! As a

result of their early agreement with aliens in the Service-to- Self, the military got possession of several ships. This is

certainly no secret, as Bob Lazar confirmed the rumors. The military has never figured out how to operate the ships

they were given, and many deaths have resulted from their attempts. Unlike human vehicles, which have a propulsion

system and manual controls, alien ships house a strange device that cannot be examined and mental controls.

The device that supports density switching and rapid transport from one part of the Universe to another cannot

be opened and examined, as it explodes and disintegrates when this is attempted. Of course, the scientists

ordered to proceed with such an experiment died instantly. In time, the decision was made to simply use the

ships, and to stop trying to understand how they worked.

The fact that the alien ships required mental control only momentarily stopped the generals who wanted

desperately to control such a device. They drilled the smug Service-to-Self aliens assigned as an escort without

end, and returned for more lessons after every abortive attempt. The stories told of furtive observations at Area

51, where wobbly space ships were seen lifting a few feet off the ground and then flopping back, are true.

Eventually enough control was attained that the ambitious generals would order a field run with this ship or that. The

idea was to do more with the ship than simply lift and wobble about. They wanted rapid travel across the skies. They

wanted to impress the heck out of anyone they were interested in intimidating. At least they could do that, they

reasoned. So the human pilots, selected for their confidence and demonstrated skill, would aim a little higher, a little

farther, and WHAM! The crash remains, which might be found anywhere, would be quickly collected by special

military teams scrambled with the greatest haste. The most likely excuse would be given to the media and local

authorities, and since the crash site is always thoroughly cleansed, countering this story is difficult.

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ZetaTalk: Crashed Ships

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ZetaTalk: Crashed Ships

Note: written on Nov 15, 1995

The public, hot on the trail of the physical evidence they were sure the government possessed, has long sought crashed

ships. Some of them are rumored to be massive, requiring roads blocked in the dead of night and coordination between

military and civilian forces to cart away in the dead of night. Are there stores of such ships, and how often do such

wrecks occur? In fact, the military has no ships wrecked by aliens in their possession, outside of the Roswell crash,

and all stories to the contrary are false. Stories of crashed alien space ships feed the sense of power and control that

humans in leadership positions demand. In some cases these stories are invented by government servants to get those in

power off their backs. Crashed ships diminish the alien presence, putting the skill and technology of aliens on a par

with that of humans, who regularly crash planes and cars.

How would it be that aliens could cross the Universe yet not be able to putt about on your planet? Stories that alien

ships cannot deal with radar or electro-magnetic pulses are nonsense. Do you not think these situations present

themselves elsewhere in the Universe, or would not be anticipated by the aliens visiting Earth? Crashed alien ships

have not and will not be presented to the public because they simply do not exist.

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ZetaTalk: MJ12

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ZetaTalk: MJ12

Note: written by Jul 15, 1995. See MJ12 Demise in this Goverment section for most recent status.

Prior to Roswell, the vote of Earth regarding its future orientation was due, which is why the Service-to-Self engaged

MJ12. They were attempting to bypass the rules, by making quick contact, an engagement, that could then continue

after the Earth vote. The incident was one that should have resulted in subconscious contact only. But as incidents

involving the Chupacabras have reported, many humans see aliens minding these beasts, and recall this in their

conscious. This is because Service-to-Self aliens cannot multi-phase well, and get distracted during contacts, so they

let go of the control over humans that results in recording only in the subconscious. Thus, farmers remember seeing

aliens chasing their Chupacabras, and the early military recalled seeing the Service-to-Self that were sent to influence

them.

Since this breach had been made, the Service-to-Self took advantage of it to press forward, more being recorded in the

conscious. As though, since the milk had been spilled, why sop it up! Thus, the Council of Worlds allowed the

Service-to-Other to likewise make conscious contact during Roswell. It was deemed a fair exchange, and as the

military intel was not about to influence the rest of the world, being secretive as they were, this was considered to be a

delimited contact. Regarding MJ12, we, the Service-to-Others Zetas, can answer only in a limited manner. We are

restrained because of a formal agreement with MJ12 as to revelation. Where the specifics of our agreement cannot be

revealed, revelation of the fact of our agreement was never in the formal agreement. We can address the reasons for

our, and other alien groups, contacting the United States government without addressing the format or structure of

MJ12. The specifics of this structure is not a matter we are free to discuss. Suffice it to say that such a structure exists.

As to the name, or nature, or reporting arrangement, or longevity of what such a structure is, we in general cannot say.

This is an animal in motion, which changes form. This is also an animal which is facing in different directions,

depending on the moment one looks at it. This animal is undecided, being composed of many voices. This animal is

basically, at its core, good at heart but unsure. Where this animal has many moods, and many facets, we, the Zetas,

attempt to speak to all its moods and facets. The end result is still open. The jury is still out. We wish to reassure the

populace, in that from our vantage point we have not found a close match between the Service-to-Self aliens and any

government agencies or employees, not even the CIA. The CIA in the main is not in sympathy with the Service-to-

Self, the origin of AIDS and other campaigns notwithstanding.

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ZetaTalk: Omnipotent Krlll

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ZetaTalk: Omnipotent Krlll

Note: written by Jul 15, 1995

One of the first aliens in the Service-to-Self orientation to contact the United States government was a member of the

alien race from Orion, who called himself the Omnipotent Krlll. He had studied human societies, or rather had his

lackeys do this study, and concluded that a guttural name that sounded like a growl would most induce fear. Thus the

concocted name. One should take note that it also sounds similar to the word kill, also not by accident. This alien

greatly impressed the military officers who met him, in that he understood their need for order and hierarchy, their

concept of command by the most powerful and well connected, and their willingness in the main to sell out sections of

the populace for any gain in power and might they might attain. As he was firmly in the Service-to-Self, they were in

effect speaking his language. He was at home.

Krlll set to work disinforming the military as best suited his ultimate aim. As he wished to conquer them, he told them

they were in charge. They bought it. As he wished their cooperation, he told them they would receive technology in

exchange. They bought it. After all these years, not much has come from this vaunted meeting with the Omnipotent

Krlll. His disinformation has been unraveled, bit by bit, so that any information he provided has essentially been

discarded. However, there are still information pools formed essentially from this source that have not dried up. They

refuse to be silenced, and repeat the same silly stories time and again. These sources have a life of their own, having

sensed that the information comes directly from the government, having been convinced and even deliberately

impressed with this fact long ago, so they are still infused with desire to get the word out. Attempting to counter these

enthusiasts only seems to energize them. The story lives on like an echo that will not die.

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ZetaTalk: Good or Evil

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ZetaTalk: Good or Evil

Note: written on Feb 15, 2002

During the period between Roswell and the present, the alien presence has been variously presented to mankind as evil

to good. During the early years, the predominant presentation was evil, intending to enslave mankind and dominate the

globe, perhaps eating man as a snack. This view has migrated to the comic, as in the movie Men in Black, where a

giant bug is fought off by good aliens and mankind as a team. This trend, of reporting the alien presence as evil, is

based in large part by the perception of MJ12 that the aliens they were first dealing with were of this mindset. This

perception was correct, as they were first contacted by the ilk of the Omnipotent Krlll. The extent of this group, during

the time they had influence over MJ12, ran into many atrocities that the general public is scarcely aware of. However,

Nancy, in her engagement with MJ12, encountered these atrocities, and fought to alert MJ12 that they could Just Say

No, as we have stated. What were these atrocities? We will list a few.

It has been reported that street people were picked up and delivered for experiments to evil aliens in underground

complexes. This is true, and the experiments horrified those in the military assigned to deliver these hapless souls.

These experiments, akin to those used by the NAZI during WWII, were to instill a feeling of hopelessness in the bums

picked up on the street, so to drive their souls into the Service-to-Self orientation. Enslavement, the sense that one

cannot resist, the sense that one should align with the strong and turn on the weak, are techniques used to drive souls

toward the STS orientation. These experiments included maiming humans so their legs pointed backwards, or they

could not stand up straight, but must assume humiliating stances. There was no end to the creativity of these Service-

to-Self soldiers, who were specialists in these settings during Transformation times. In addition, the CIA, created in the

main from the folding NAZI SS, were influenced to abduct and kill babies, in the theory that aliens might be

inhabiting baby bodies as an infiltration means. These innocent babies, abducted in the 1940's, were killed in

horrendously painful ways, the theory being that the aliens inhabiting their bodies would leap out and reveal

themselves. As with Satanism, the only accomplishment was that the CIA and military assigned to assist them turned

increasingly to the Service-to-Self orientation.

Thus, even in 1994, when Nancy entered her engagement with MJ12, some of these actions were still in process. Thus,

stories about street people reporting being taken underground, or about evil aliens lurking underground, have their

basis. Nancy volunteered to meet, for instance, a Dino, which did his best to intimidate her. Suffice it to say that she

gave him the finger, in challenge, with no repercussions. She likewise repeated this, going into the chambers where

street people were maimed, inciting a rebellion among them when she demonstrated Just Say No. These chambers are

now closed, as MJ12 realized they likewise could say no. There was a small segment of MJ12 which insisted the

Service-to-Self aliens they had long had a relationship with should not be just rejected, out of fear. They argued that

retaliation might result. Where they refused to provide human experiment subjects, they allowed these aliens to

continue to live in underground chambers. Thus, until MJ12 disbanded upon the Bush election coup, there was contact.

These aliens have since vacated, in that the benefit of rattling around down there was no longer evident. They were

needed in the battle for Africa, which is heated at present, having lost the battle for the American mind, in essence.

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ZetaTalk: Agreements

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ZetaTalk: Agreements

Note: written by Jul 15, 1995

In discussing our agreements with the United States governments, we are restrained by these very agreements, which

include a promise not to divulge almost everything. However, we are literal, and we feel free to use our discretion in

discussing points not specifically covered in this agreement. In addition, lately your government has lifted many

restraints on us, freeing us from our prior agreement on certain points, in step with the current mood in Washington,

which is to declassify much and leak more, thus speeding the Awakening.

We, the Service-to-Other Zetas, have a formal agreement with the United States government. The agreement is verbal,

but we honor it impeccably as to do otherwise would build distrust. It is in everyone's interest for trust to exist between

ourselves and your government, as this deflects their need and desire to get in bed with the Service-to-Self crowd,

which they were doing in the past. Our agreement is under constant change, based on regular weekly meetings which

occur each Wednesday morning. The location or attendees are not something we can divulge. The scope of our joint

activities also is under constant change.

There are some items we can quickly mention which are not in the scope. Disinformation has been spread to the extent

that we, the Zetas, are conducting cattle mutilations because we need the enzymes to live. This is totally false, as we

manufacture what we need. Nor do we have an agreement by which the government stays silent about our presence

while we abduct and run experiments on humans. We do not need your government's agreement to answer The Call,

nor would a widespread awareness of our presence affect us one way or the other. The hybrid program would continue

regardless of anything your government would do.

Activities that are in the scope of our present agreement are a travel service, whereby we transport those members of

your government to and from meetings on the alien presence, and for any other activities that MJ12 deems important.

In this support, we do not interject our opinions on the use of this travel service. This offer, which we have steadfastly

maintained for some decades now, was made so that your government would have an alternative to their association

with the Service-to-Self crowd. Our foresight in the matter has paid off, as your government has recently begun to

sever all ties to this alien orientation, and the pace is picking up. This was our fervent hope, and we are elated at this

outcome. Another activity we are jointly involved in is an education program, whereby we introduce key members of

your government to beings from other worlds, their cultures, and their philosophies. We also introduce them to some

citizens who carry Zetan genetics, whom we consider to have joint citizenship because of this, by birthright. We have

learned that your government in the main just wants to know, and not be the last to know.

A most important activity that has recently begun is in the area of advancements in science and industry that will

benefit all mankind. As we have explained, we do not give technological assistance to those giving The Call unless we

are assured by the circumstances that the technology will not be misused. Due to recent trends, our confidence in this

area has increased, and we are in partnership with your government on many projects which do not involve weapons

and which can not be stifled due to establishment interests. We cannot give you all the details on this at the present

time, as the familiar saying that a watched pot won't boil is so very true in this circumstance. What is developing

threatens so many interests that the last thing these projects need is publicity. You would never guess where this work

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ZetaTalk: Agreements

is progressing, nor by whom. It is too improbable, and that is by design on our part.

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ZetaTalk: Power Outages

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ZetaTalk: Power Outages

Note: written on Sep 15, 1995

Following the Roswell incident the various alien groups in the Service-to-Other orientation were displeased with

dialog that had been opened with the US Government. They found themselves not only held at arms length but also

negated - treated as entities one need not worry about. Where Roswell had been staged, several aliens in the Service-

to-Other sacrificing themselves in the crash so that the Military could feel they had the upper hand and thus be

amenable to an approach, the aliens now found themselves facing a cocky group who treated them dismissively. One

extreme to another. At this point in time MJ12 had also been approached by the Service-to-Self aliens, whom they

treated with respect as this group had not presented themselves as crashed ships or dead and injured bodies. In the

eyes of MJ12, who looked on the surface, the Service-to-Self aliens had their act together. We expressed, through the

human translators assigned to us, that our capabilities were in fact superior to the Service-to-Self aliens they were

giving preferential attention to, but were brushed aside.

As the Awakening is overseen by the Council of Worlds, this matter was bantered about, and eventually the Council

granted a spectacle that would not be lost on MJ12, the intended audience, but could be minimized to the populace at

large. Prior to Power Outages there were several attempts to impress MJ12 with less drastic measures. Power Outages,

after all, affect hospitals, little old ladies tottering to the rest room, and moving traffic. We wished to avoid this.

Natural occurrences were affected first, having been announced well ahead of time. Unseasonable temperature

variations, so that mid-winter would become positively balmy or mid-summer chilly, but this impressed no one and we

were only credited with being good weather predictors. Light rays were deflected over broad areas, so that mid-day

became night for a brief but very noticeable time, but as no disruption of activity took place, MJ12 was unimpressed.

So it's dark outside, then turn on the lights! Thus, we determined, and effectively argued the case before the Council, to

prevent the lights from being turned on.

Power Outages were not unknown, and could be caused by any number of overload or mechanical failure situations.

People would buy it, on the local level. At a national level, in smoke filled rooms and the corridors of power, the truth

would be passed around and hurriedly suppressed. How do you suppose that MJ12 came to have so many corporate

leaders in its broad membership? They were initiated during the panics. Suppress the press. Issue statements that had

no relationship to the facts. Use the bully boardroom, and keep each other closely informed. When spreading a broad

untruth, close communication and coordination is required. MJ12 was no longer a clique of the Military, it became for

a time a clique of the establishment. Subsequent to the Power Outages, which did not sweep without warning over

broad areas, we found MJ12 looking at us with new eyes. They now believed our explanation of the Roswell crashes.

Their eyes had been opened. At this point the Power Outages were no longer necessary.

A major factor in the success of this Awakening maneuver was the utter inability of the Government to stop the

outages. Learning of our schedule, which was announced days ahead of the occurrence, they would arrange every kind

of backup. All contingencies failed. Power flow was stilled for the length of time announced, and not so much as a

flashlight battery worked. The mechanism used by us involved essentially irradiating the area with a countering force,

affecting electron flow above a certain level. Thus, human thought or the winking of fireflies would not be affected,

but human technology was at a stand still.

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ZetaTalk: Government Song

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ZetaTalk: Government Song

Note: written on Aug 15, 1995

Where we are concerned to reduce fear and anxiety in the Earth's inhabitants, there are those that would increase this.

The Service-to-Self enclaves arrived early to your hapless planet and acted aggressively. They contacted your

government, as they had contacted other governments in the world. They dangled baubles such as special treatment

during disasters and technological advantages over other Earthlings. It is no secret to you how your government

responded. The cat is out of the bag, as you say. If you have never heard a song, and you now hear only one song

singing, you would be inclined to think there was only one song to be sung. We and other benevolent alien groups

approached your governments so that they could hear a different song.

Your government, as with your populace, is not mostly evil. In the main, they wish to do the right thing by those they

are bound to serve. We are attempting to help them get to this point. At a minimum, we are attempting to foil the

original song they heard, so that at a minimum your government does not sing this song to you. Why was this done,

you might ask, when this different song could have been sung to the populace at large. Of course, this song is being

sung to the populace at large, in a manner that elicits the least fear and anxiety. It was necessary to sing a different

song to your government because they are influential to those they govern. They control the media, to a far greater

extent than you would ever allow yourself to believe. They therefore control what their populace is allowed to

experience, consciously.

Note: below added during the Jul 20, 2002 Live ZetaTalk IRC Session.

Just before the time of Roswell, and just before the collection of the Earth Vote to determine the future orientation of

Planet Earth, those in the Service-to-Self landed on Earth and contacted the US Military intel organizations. This was

done by the Omnipotent Krlll and the like, with the intent of impressing this very influential element in Earth matters,

that aliens were

1. powerful,

2. real,

3. should not be resisted.

The Service-to-Self aliens knew that upon the results of the Earth vote that such conscious contact would not be

allowed, thus slipped in at the last minute with what they expected to be a coup. In that the balance had been

disturbed, the Council of Worlds allowed Service-to-Others aliens to also initiate contact, which was done during

Roswell. The Service-to-Others aliens did so via a means often used, to present themselves as weak, vulnerable, so

humans would feel free to approach and converse. Thus, the story of Roswell, much based upon truth. This left the

common man out of the loop, but balance within the US government, which in those days, and even today, is highly

influential in world affairs.

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ZetaTalk: Yellow Book

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ZetaTalk: Yellow Book

Note: written on Mar 15, 1996

The lore on the government's knowledge of the alien presence includes a book, holographic in nature here and there

among the written pages, which describe the Earth's history and most particularly her history as regards the genetic

engineering of Homo Sapiens. Such a book was developed by us, in collaboration with others who had participated

over the ages, and presented to your government in order to communicate more fully and quickly. Most humans are

barely telepathic, and though the government provided many adequate telepaths, the lack of precision in the slight

differences in their interpretations of what was said disturbed the leadership inordinately. The Yellow Book, as it has

come to be called, told the same story, complete with video, to everyone who read it. The description that Bob Lazar

gave is quite accurate in this regard.

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ZetaTalk: MJ12 Agenda

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ZetaTalk: MJ12 Agenda

Note: written on Oct 15, 2000

The general public, to the extent they are aware of the existence of MJ12 and it’s purported purpose of controlling

interaction with extraterrestrials, are unclear on additional goals. They hear stories about MJ12’s regular meetings with

aliens, desire on the part of the US Military to secure alien technology, membership in MJ12 by select and invited

individuals, and suppression of news on all this by harsh means. Are these the goals of MJ12 - containment, self

promotion, and suppression? Hardly. Where the scope of activities in the early days of MJ12 were certainly dominated

by and intense desire to determine what the alien agenda was, and to come out on top in any arrangements, MJ12 soon

found itself holding a tightly capped bottle that was about to explode. Not only were aliens contacting the citizenry of

the world on a regular and increasing basis, the evidence presented by ourselves, the Service-to-Other Zetas, on the

approach of the 12th Planet for it’s periodic passage was bearing true, and this translated to an almost mind boggling

responsibility toward the general populace.

Where the self-serving goals of Alternatives 1, 2, and 3 are well known among students of UFOlogy, the goals of

those member of MJ12 who were altruistic are not well known. Where MJ12 was heavily influenced in it’s early days

by the CIA, which indeed ran drugs and laundered money on the excuse that MJ12 as a secret organization needed

outside funding, the arm of MJ12 that has strengthened and become dominant of late had a different focus.

Clearly, the early goals of MJ12 to suppress knowledge of the alien presence could not be perpetuated, was an

untenable situation, and could only end in humiliation for MJ12. This has thus migrated to be a series of

controlled leaks, semi-truths and even frank admissions, with contactees and those reporting sightings no longer

punished. ZetaTalk, as we have mentioned, is viewed as an excellent means of bridging the gap of ignorance of

the alien agenda, as Nancy is generally accessible and widely known and accepted in her role.

Likewise, where some members from the early days of MJ12, seeking to get rich and hold the reigns of power

where they could never be discovered or taken to account, resulted in mischief and even crime, this was

steadfastly rooted out and the perpetrators called to account. Now MJ12 functions as the secret organization it

was intended to be, sparsely funded and the poverty child of the government, truly. In that MJ12 utilizes the

many arms of the government to implement their programs, and in that government employees in the main staff

MJ12, there is no need for independent funding.

Seeing that the pole shift was rapidly approaching, and was framing out to be the horror we had described during

our initial encounters shortly after Roswell, MJ12 first set out to inform the public via the media with movies

having a cataclysmic overtone. Tidal waves, asteroids and missiles of death raining down upon cities from space,

dust in the air putting the Earth in a death-grip of doom - all these were designed to set the populace to thinking

about such matters, but always with the theme that their government would and could save them. If the public

was not informed at the start, in these film scenarios, this was because panic was to be avoided, the best interests

of the public in mind, or so the story went. MJ12’s initial approach to the problem of breaking the news to the

public has also migrated over time, to a different set of projects.

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ZetaTalk: MJ12 Projects

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ZetaTalk: MJ12 Projects

Note: written on Oct 15, 2000

What projects does MJ12 now have on its roster, and how does ZetaTalk or Troubled Times fit into that list?

Facilitating the Awakening is a goal that has a dual agenda. It both gets past the issue of the alien presence, by

making it clear that aliens are and have been visiting Earth for some time with no harm done to humans, and

holds the potential of helping survivors in the Aftertime. It is clear to MJ12 that they or any government arm can

do little to alieviate suffering during or after the pole shift. The devastation will be immense, and any actions

they take before or after the shift virtually useless. Even should they move all citizens to safety, starvation and

in-fighting would soon follow. So opening the door to extraterrestrial help, fact-to-fact conscious contact,

perhaps, is something that an expedited Awakening might provide. To the extent that this project does not run

amock of the power-hungry agendas of humans on Earth, who view the Earth as their domain and their’s only,

this is facilitated by MJ12.

Running interference, preventing disruption of activites they deem positive, is a strong MJ12 program, as it is

one with which they feel comfortable and have a long and successful track record. MJ12 is peopled, primarily,

with government employees, primarily military, in the intelligence business. Intelligence gathering requires

careful planning and many alternative plans to cover every concievable contingency. Intelligence gathering

forays are defended, by nature, as they go into enemy territory under hostile and dangerous conditions. Thus,

defense, in secret, is the very nature of intelligence gathering as much as snooping. MJ12 runs interference by

taking out, or discouraging, anything they consider a block or a danger to a program they are supporting.

Promoting, to the degree they can influence the media or private wealth, programs they view to be helping with

the Awakening or providing some self-help advice to the general populace as a solution to the devastation soon

to be upon them because of the rapidly approaching cataclysms. In that being an arm’s length away is an

understatement, this is easier said than done. MJ12 must be several arm’s lengths away, by decree and by their

mission statement, and not discovered. Thus a great deal of effort goes into putting distance between their agents

and an action the public becomes aware of. It’s not as simple as pushing a button.

How do ZetaTalk and Troubled Times fit into the above MJ12 programs? ZetaTalk is viewed as a solid ajunct to the

Awakening, and promoted discretely, though it needs little promotion. ZetaTalk astonished MJ12 by its popularity and

almost instant international appeal. Promotion of ZetaTalk is thus done primarily by running interference, and to some

slight degree by arranging media exposure. Troubled Times has likewise surprised MJ12 by its success. Most losely

bound organizations are not much more than squabbling sessions, especially those with a broad membership crossing

borders and backgrounds and cultures, including all ages and religions and classes, such as Troubled Times has

become. Its success is atributed to the ZetaTalk message, which is considered so compelling that the Troubled Times

members put aside differences to work toward what is jointly viewed as important goals. Troubled Times is assisted,

behind the scenes, lightly, as a heavy hand from any government source is feared as a death touch, should the public

come to view Troubled Times as a government arm. Like ZetaTalk, it receives light assist and occasional defense.

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ZetaTalk: Zeta/MJ12 Goals

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ZetaTalk: Zeta/MJ12 Goals

Note: written on Oct 15, 2000

How do we, the Service-to-Other Zetas, fit into the MJ12 programs, and where do we clash or meld? We have

agreements with MJ12 that are well spelled out so there is no wiggle room, but these almost entirely state what we are

not to do, such as touch or influence MJ12 operatives who are to be deemed as utterly independent from our influence.

We are also not to reveal the content of our agreements, unless given leave to do so by MJ12. Our travel service

agreement, whereby we allow MJ12 operatives to use our space ships and provide a cloak for their activities, is also

bound by rules whereby we do not interfere with any activities, which are under the control, solely, of the MJ12

operatives using the service. However, we have our own programs, and at times these mesh well with MJ12’s goals,

and we collaborate.

Where the hybrid program is our’s alone, we allow MJ12 on occasion to interact with hybrids and if the

contactee is willing, with the human donors of genetic material that produced the hybrids. We have found that

this meshes with the MJ12 goal of furthering the Awakening, as it is a preview of what humans can expect, and

is a reassurance in this regard. Do MJ12 members play with hybrid children, and work side-by-side with hybrid

adults? Absolutely, and frequently.

The Awakening, whereby the public becomes increasingly aware of the alien presence, and comfortable with

this, is most definitely a joint program. This likewise is out of the hands of MJ12, as the Awakening would take

place with or without them and they do not influence its course, but in that MJ12 wishes to facilitate the

Awakening, we at times alert them to an important occurrence, so they can arrange media support of the

announcement. This is something we cannot detail, as MJ12’s involvement in this is very covert, and is to

remain that for the benefit of the Awakening process. We can, nor will, say any more about this subject.

Developing what Nancy calls “solution sets”, clear-cut and simple steps a surviving family can take to maintain

health and safety, as well as comfort and a sense of well-being. This has become a dominant theme of Troubled

Times, and a predominant mission of the nonprofit arm of Troubled Times. MJ12 has long grieved over their

impotence to help humanity though the coming times, and had resigned themselves to alerting the populace to

the extent this could be done without inducing widespread and heated panic. The simple solutions put forth by

Troubled Times have surprised and delighted them, but there are no crash programs that the government could

initiate that would greatly add to the list already known and published. Thus, this is a joint program in the heart,

only, at this time.

Pollution abatement, in particular nuclear polution or its potential during the coming pole shift, is a very active

joint project. We have provided MJ12 with a means of eliminating radiation by chemical means, as surprising as

that may sound. The slow breaking down of nuclear poisons by half life can be expedited as this is simply an

arrangement in the atoms, which as any student of chemistry knows can be bound or altered by a neighboring

atom. This is a joint program we can only lightly discuss, and can say no more than we have at present.

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ZetaTalk: MJ12 Mouthpiece

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ZetaTalk: MJ12 Mouthpiece

Note: written on Dec 15, 1995

MJ12 is highly interested in ZetaTalk, as it has potential for harm or good, in their opinion. We, the Zetas, thrash this

out with MJ12 behind the scenes. There are some matters that we cannot discuss, being restrained by the Rules of

Engagement, as aliens in the Service-to-Self are actively involved. Where this comes up on ZetaTalk we so state the

reason for our reticence. There are some matters that we cannot discuss due to our long-standing agreements with

MJ12, and we have likewise so stated this as our reasons for reticence when this has come up on ZetaTalk.

But there are many times when we give but a partial response, holding back from full disclosure because MJ12 has, in

essence, edited our statement. This takes the form, invariably, of a lack of details, who did that, when and where. We refer to military intelligence units without being specific. We refer to the leadership of MJ12 being composed

primarily of bureaucrats holding parallel leadership titles, without being specific. Most certainly we do not name

names. If we mention that deaths have occurred to maintain silence we most often do not say who was so assassinated,

nor do we name the assassin. We stay as general as need be to placate MJ12, but as specific as need be to describe the

situation. In the end, both our motives and the motives of MJ12 are served. These motives are not a secret - they are

mentioned frequently within ZetaTalk.

Where we wish for the Awakening and Transformation to proceed as quickly as possible, MJ12 has also moved to this

stance, having realized that this cannot be stopped and that suppressing the truth only allows the lies spread by those in

the Service-to-Self orientation to prevail. Where we fervently wish for humans to understand the control they have

over visits from aliens, MJ12 likewise dearly wants this message out, having been duped themselves by aliens in the

Service-to-Self. Where we wish to warn humans of the cataclysms which will accompany the pending pole shift, MJ12

likewise cannot bear to think of the million of innocents who will be taken by surprise only because the word did not

get out. At a minimum, they wish for the possibility of an approaching pole shift to be much under discussion.

Therefore, in a manner of speaking, ZetaTalk is an MJ12 mouthpiece - not because MJ12 controls ZetaTalk, but

because it does not suppress it or shut it down. This is also true of many other education vehicles, increasingly, as the

Awakening progresses.

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ZetaTalk: Pine Gap

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ZetaTalk: Pine Gap

Note: written on Mar 15, 1996

Alice Springs and the nearby area known as Pine Gap are not the source of all the Pine Gap gossip. The real

installation is on the western coast of Australia. A common ploy, when trying to avoid scrutiny, is to point to a place

other than where the action is. Thus, there is the Pine Gap of record and the real installation, which is not anywhere

near where the public might come and gawk. As with all CIA installations on foreign soil, the true nature of activities

at this installation has always been denied. Given the desolate area, lack of nearby vantage points, and sparse

population, it is well protected from prying eyes. Thus the most sensitive activities have taken place there - research

into the biology and psychology of alien visitors and to a minor degree the physics of their technology. The goal was

to treat the alien presence in the same manner the CIA has treated governments, corporations, associations or

individuals it did not control and deemed a threat - analyze, infiltrate, subvert, and conquer. They did not succeed. In

fact, they didn't get past square one, faltering on analysis.

Accustomed to working with humans who could be influenced through threats or bribes, their analysis focused first on

vulnerabilities, but as all aliens visiting Earth are inter-dimensional and can cloak themselves in protective yet

invisible shields, this was entirely an exercise in frustration. Offering bribes was a joke, as the CIA could not deliver

the ultimate goal, the human soul solidly into either this or that orientation. There was no bribe that could be offered.

Since the Service-to-Self, who lie without hesitation to promote their ends, appeared more willing to negotiate, the

CIA in fact ended up delivering their end of the bargain in many cases, while getting nothing but grief in return. The

joke was on them. The propagation of the AIDS and Ebola viruses was one such delivery. The dissemination of

disinformation favoring the Service-to-Self, by claiming powers of destruction over humans where the alien visitors

are in fact restrained, was another. These failures, in the end, fed the final determination to close this CIA installation

to these types of activities.

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ZetaTalk: Area 51

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ZetaTalk: Area 51

Note: written on Aug 15, 1995

Out in the Nevada Desert lies the most watched air base in the United States. You

know the one, it's the one that doesn't exist, the one with no name - Area 51. Are

flying saucers being dismantled, assembled, inspected and flown by humans at Area

51? Not any more, though until quite recently this was one of the activities going on

at this ultra secret, hush-hush base. Due to your government's request of us, ongoing

activities at Area 51 are not a matter we can divulge. Suffice it to say these other

activities do not involve the alien issue, but fall within the purview of normal

government activities. Area 51 is all the more in the news because of its desire to be

secret. At this point, should they throw open the doors and let the public wander

through, everyone would be disappointed. A tomb. Empty, or virtually so, in

preparation for just such public exposure. Where did the space ships go, and how did

the military come into possession of them? The ships were moved by the alien groups

who provided them to the military, and the whole operation has setup elsewhere, not

on a military base. Are these our ships? No, and this is as much as we can say about

the matter, which for the discerning reader aware of the rules, says quite precisely

whose ships these are.

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ZetaTalk: Dulce, New Mexico

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ZetaTalk: Dulce, New Mexico

Note: written on Aug 15, 1995

Under the high mountain of New Mexico, near Dulce, strange things are happening.

No one is quite sure what, and rumors abound, but the goings on are not nearly what

is rumored. Dulce is a military installation, and like the sign, Beware of Dog, allows

the rumors to fly to protect their privacy. It's been working well.

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ZetaTalk: Lazar's Sport Craft

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ZetaTalk: Lazar's Sport Craft

Note: written on Aug 15, 1996

Many humans interested in Bob Lazar's true reports have seen his sketch of an alien ship, the inner workings

diagrammed and the method of operation laid out to the best of his ability. Is this a real space ship, and are his

speculations on its operations correct? Yes and no, as where he saw a real ship, his understanding of how levitation

and rapid travel occur was not close to the facts. All scientists in the employ of MJ12 are to this day still scratching

their heads, as the details were never explained to them and being unable to dissect the mechanism without an

explosion occurring, they can only speculate.

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ZetaTalk: MJ12 Documents

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ZetaTalk: MJ12 Documents

Note: written on Aug 15, 1996

A still hotly debated topic is the validity of what are purported to be documents from MJ12, dating back to President

Truman's era. These carefully manufactured documents are authentic enough in appearance to convince many that they

are real, yet flaws exist that have others convinced they are a fraud. Both situations are true, as the documents are what

could be termed a half truth. The release of these documents, the content of which is false, was intended to be a leak

by the government that would hasten the Awakening of the populace to the alien presence. Where the documents line

up with the facts is in the existence of MJ12, periodic meetings in secret, and in those days the involvement of the

President of the United States. Where the documents part from the truth is where they give the impression that MJ12

was a fleeting response, that the matters they addressed were limited in scope, or that they were almost casual about

dealing with the alien presence and what this would mean for humanity.

MJ12 has been in the process of unburdening themselves of their tightly kept secrets from some time. This will never,

frankly, in our opinion, be a complete bearing of the truth, but increasing mixing in of truth into semi-truths, which are

just as effective and in some cases are preferable to the harsh reality of stark truth in that people can gradually become

acclimated. They have a revelation. They read it. They sense some truth to this. Then it's debunked a bit. It's all a

question. It's much under discussion. And in all of this, people really come to accept the reality. They think about it

without having to adjust too harshly. This makes for a faster assimilation of the truth, and this is the route that MJ12 is

using because they well understand this mechanism. Therefore, there is some truth mixed in with new documents, and

increasingly this will be the case.

In the past, this information was presented in this manner with a small grain of truth and a great deal of brutal

discrediting of the messenger. This pattern is increasingly going to be pleasant conversation without the brutality, but

no one will actually know how much is true and not.

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ZetaTalk: Blue Book

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ZetaTalk: Blue Book

Note: written on Jun 15, 1997

During the early days of the cover-up over the alien presence, when those in charge of the cover-up presumed a naive

and gullible public, project Blue Book was initiated. Since UFO sightings were in the air, the Air Force was the

presumed arm of the military that would be in the know. Assigning the Naval intelligence as the primary arm of MJ12

was supposed to be a slight of hand that no one would suspect. Thus the Air Force officers assigned bustled about and

issued reams of paper, all looking very official. They were given a list of probable explanations for strange lights in the

sky, and dutifully ascribed something on the list to any sighting reported. When on occasion an officer working for

project Blue Book got too curious, he was reassigned. Those who prated the party line and didn’t attempt any

independent thought remained. Thus, as would be expected, the final report fell neatly into line with the original intent

- UFO’s were all swamp gas or meteors, or the figment of the public's active imagination.

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ZetaTalk: MJ12 Groups

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ZetaTalk: MJ12 Groups

Note: written on Apr 15, 1996

MJ12 does not operate in a vacuum, as a standalone, off-the-books, agency. It has tentacles whereby it reaches out to

gather information and accomplish its goals. MJ12 is the administrative hub, where policy decisions are reached and

the center where key contacts with the outside world are maintained. However, it would be short-sighted indeed, in

that those in its hierarchy have parallel positions within the federal bureaucracy, to not use those very bureaucracies. In

fact, given the structure of MJ12, it is only natural. Without being specific, we will enumerate some of those tentacles.

The military branches all have intelligence units, which are skilled in various degrees at electronic snooping,

interrogation techniques, and undercover activities. Individuals from these units are assigned to a stint of duty to

MJ12, just as they are assigned to secret missions, and are no more prone to talk about these assignments than

those involving any other - you hear about none of it.

Both the FBI and CIA have vast pools of information on corporations, individuals, and groups running under the

many different charters that can exist in human society. These intelligence agencies have formal arrangements

with MJ12, who has but to ask for this information for it to be delivered, pronto.

Military installations include many complexes held in abeyance, just in case. Land and buildings are hard

enough to come by in times of plenty, and during cut backs are not released, in the main. Idle facilities in remote

areas are ideal for temporary use by active MJ12 members, who are almost invariably from the military.

Should the reader find this astonishing - that federal employees are regularly dealing with MJ12 yet the public hears at

most rumors of this activity - they should bear in mind the following. Intelligence groups, and the military in general,

operate on a need to know basis. This rule is in place to prevent covert operations from being carelessly exposed, the

enemy from learning of plans, and to a small degree to prevent the public from learning what the government is really

up to. Also, when services are performed for MJ12, these services are not distinguishable from normal, everyday

services. The requests don't have MJ12 stamped in big bright letters on the front, they come wrapped in commonplace

covers, and thus raise little suspicion.

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ZetaTalk: MJ12 Service

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ZetaTalk: MJ12 Service

Note: written on Jul 15, 1996

MJ12 is less than 2,000 strong. The membership can be put to death if they reveal the existence of MJ12 or any

information that they have learned through membership in MJ12. In addition, they are barred from making personal

profit from the information they learned. This is no idle death threat. This occurs at least yearly. Dozens of individuals

have been swiftly put to death from breaching this. Most government employees or contractors who serve MJ12 have

no idea who the recipient of their service is. MJ12 operates out of various intelligence agencies, which all go on a need

to know basis. If one delivers a package from point A to Point B, or researches the background of a civilian, does one

need to know why this service is required?

As a general rule, MJ12 does not even allow active members of MJ12, those who know they are working for this arm

of the government, to come in contact with aliens. Where we provide a travel service as part of our agreement with

MJ12, the humans being transported never encounter the pilots. They walk up a ramp, enter an empty room, the door

closes and shortly reopens at the destination. No contact. We are in telepathic contact with our human counterparts

and learn of the itinerary in this way. Where only a small, select group within MJ12 has knowledge of travel by space

ship, an even smaller group actually has contact with aliens. These individuals are subject to a battery of psychological

tests and field trials, and are characteristically highly stable individuals. They are essentially unflappable. As with

MJ12 in general, one does not choose these careers, they are chosen.

How many of the less than 2,000 MJ12 members know of the coming pole shift? Few actually know that the 12th

Planet is inbound. People know small portions of the truth, and they are told to make plans, to prepare, for the

likelihood of this or that, without being told with certainty. But nevertheless the general anxiety is rising. There is the

sense that something is up, that the full story is not being told, and increasingly people are reacting to this.

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ZetaTalk: MJ12 Perks

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ZetaTalk: MJ12 Perks

Note: written on Apr 15, 1996

As with any high stakes arena, infractions against the rules are attempted on occasion by those who have been read the

riot act but nevertheless give it a try. These individuals tend to be those who cheated on exams at school, bribed or

threatened their way out of tight situations, and considered themselves more clever than the watch dogs.

At times, in the past, these maneuvers to take advantage of the opportunities that membership MJ12 affords have

succeeded, and thus the occasional rumors to this effect. But of late we, the Service-to-Other Zetas, have been elicited

to assist MJ12 in monitoring adherence to their rules, and this has brought an abrupt end to these practices. There are

no plots that escape our notice, as we become aware of them when they are first hatched in the minds of the schemers.

We cannot enumerate past practices, due to our agreement with MJ12. Suffice it to say that during the era when we

offered an un-monitored travel service to MJ12 members, complete with the cloak that prevents awareness that such

travel is even occurring, there could be any manner of misuse. This is the intelligence community ideal, to be cloaked

and invisible during their movements and to have instant travel to and from their destinations. This also is the dream

of the thief or law breaker.

In step with sorting out the orientations and agendas of the alien groups they had agreements with, MJ12 gained

confidence in working with ourselves, the Service-to-Other Zetas. Thus, recently, our assistance has been elicited to

ensure that the policy of the governing board is followed, and as these policies are in the main and increasingly benign,

we are happy to oblige. We are mindful that without our assistance past abuses would surely be repeated.

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ZetaTalk: Aviary

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ZetaTalk: Aviary

Note: written on Apr 15, 1996

Membership in MJ12 comes about in a number of ways. One automatically belongs if holding a certain position in the

government, a high level bureaucrat; one can be assigned to active duty within MJ12; or one can be requested to join

if their services are required. Once a member, one is always a member, though the status may move from active to

inactive. Inactive members have the advantage over the general public of knowing about MJ12, but they hold no other

advantages. Of all the agencies in the US, MJ12 has the strictest rules, with the most brutal consequences for

infractions. Any rumors that present or former intelligence operatives or select members of the military industrial

complex are being granted special favors are patently false. The mythical Aviary does not exist.

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ZetaTalk: Red Book

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ZetaTalk: Red Book

Note: written on Apr 15, 1996

Among the many rumors spread about what the government may or may not have learned from their interactions with

the aliens is the myth of the Red Book, a composite of factoids gleaned from this privileged communication. There is

no such book, and what the government has learned is scarcely more than what the private citizen has already

surmised - man is not alone, man was genetically engineered, other densities exist, interstellar travel is faster than the

speed of light, alien visitors come in all shapes and sizes, antigravity devices and levitation are possible, and the forces

of darkness and light are not just a local occurrence.

Disinformation techniques such as the Red Book myth are elitist, striving to convince the populace that there are

secrets about the Earth's future, about the timing of events, and about alien technology that a few possess and are

refusing to share. Should you read ZetaTalk thoroughly, you would know as much, if not more, than most active

members in MJ12. Information on the alien presence is not in the hands of an elite few, no matter how they may try to

foist this impression on the populace.

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ZetaTalk: Apollo Logo

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ZetaTalk: Apollo Logo

Note: written on Dec 15, 1996. Planet X and the 12th Planet are one and the same.

It has recently come to light that NASA was obsessed with the constellation of Orion at the Apollo program's

inception. In light of the recent discovery of Planet X homing in from this constellation, and in light of our assertions

that this is indeed the path of the approach of the 12th Planet, does the adoption of the Apollo logo indicate early

knowledge of the coming cataclysms? It does indeed, as long before the active search for Planet X there were

undeniable perturbations in the outer planets which in essence solved the mystery of what the ancient legends told

about the placement of the Great Pyramids. They knew of its certain approach, and much of the impetus behind the

Apollo program, the rush to the Moon, was to gain mankind the ability to maneuver within this solar system, and at

the very least to afford an escape route for the privileged few who would have access to such an escape.

With Apollo 13, those hoping to escape were given a firm message that such an avenue would not be possible.

Nevertheless, the NASA logo points an incriminating finger at those who refused to give the general populace the

knowledge they themselves held in privy, knowledge they still today withhold from the taxpayers who funded the

Apollo flights.

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ZetaTalk: Apollo 13

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ZetaTalk: Apollo 13

Note: written on May 15, 1996

At the inception of the Apollo program, the secret government had a dual mission - to withhold knowledge of the alien

presence from the general public and to arrange for an escape from the coming millennium cataclysms for the elite.

At the inception of the Apollo program, the elite of the secret government were looking to several different

means of dealing with the coming cataclysms - Alternatives 1, 2 and 3. Alternative 1 was to reduce

overpopulation and sculpt the face of mankind to their liking, Alternative 2 was to burrow into subterranean

cavities, and Alternative 3 was to establish space stations on other planets. Alternative 3, as we have explained,

proved unworkable, and Alternative 2 thereafter became the main focus. It is no longer a secret that opulent

underground escape hatches, complete with golf courses, were constructed for the elite.

Where the Service-to-Self aliens in early contact with the secret government encouraged such self-serving

behavior, the Service-to-Other aliens that followed explained, and demonstrated in a number of ways such as

massive power outages, that an escape of the elite to other planets in the solar system would not be allowed due

to the quarantine that mankind had been placed under. Thus, though the Apollo space program had been

enthusiastically started, it soon fell into disfavor, and the fact that it was at odds with the mission to suppress

knowledge of the alien presence soon took precedence.

As a result of certain studies which the government solicited, there was early on in the secret government a

decision not to reveal to the populace any material that would lead one to conclude that man was not alone.

There were a number of such studies, all reaching the same conclusion as the studies had all been instituted from

the same focal point in the secret government, and they relayed the conclusion that was expected. In essence, the

message to those conducting the study was - here's what I want you to conclude, now go figure out how to say

it.

This secrecy mandate put the Apollo Moon missions at odds with one of the missions of the secret government,

which in those days was heavily influenced by the CIA. The US space program thus came steadily under the

control of the intelligence agencies, and to this day are more prone to issue disinformation than perform

scientific advancement. It is no secret that the US space program fell apart, and is today a sham of its former

self. To abort the enthusiastic Moon missions, which were often being watched live by the public, the CIA threw

a wrench in the works. Apollo 13 was a distressed mission due solely to sabotage, and this sabotage was

rewarded. The Moon missions were stopped.

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ZetaTalk: NASA

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ZetaTalk: NASA

Note: written on Nov 15, 1995

Why does NASA, a supposedly independent organization, cooperate with MJ12 by failing to scrutinize the surface of

Mars and the Moon, or at least failing to allow the American public to so scrutinize? NASA is not the same as MJ12.

NASA is a separate entity. They of course are influenced by MJ12 who has members within the NASA hierarchy, but

they function, just as the Post Office does, as separate from MJ12. But are they not a servant of the taxpayer,

supported by American tax dollars as they are?

The myth that government is accountable to the people is disproved daily in the news, and organizations under contract

to the government have even less accountability. Think of NASA as you do your neighbor or grocer. They try not to

break the law or get caught at it when they do, but beyond that how they lead their lives has nothing to do with you.

You, the taxpayer, are to be ignored and manipulated for their comfort and convenience. They worry not about you

because you must pay your taxes and they have their hand firmly in the till. With this in mind, why would they lie?

Where NASA may not be accountable to the people, they are accountable to the Pentagon and the dollars it controls.

Money talks. MJ12 is dominated by the military, a fact established from its inception. The same top military leaders

that dominate MJ12 also dominate the Pentagon and its budget process. End of story.

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ZetaTalk: Silenced Astronauts

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ZetaTalk: Silenced Astronauts

Note: written on Apr 15, 1996

The world watched in rapt attention during the first Apollo Moon landing - a first for mankind. The comments made by

the astonished astronauts, who noted signs that they were not the first visitors to the Moon, have generated all manner

of speculation. What did they see? From the Earth, the surface of the Moon looks placid, unwashed by water and

without an atmosphere, nothing moves on the pock marked surface. Up close, however, one would discover dust

covered litter and tracks left by vehicles, unmistakable signs that mankind was not the first. Machinery parts, collapsed

structures, tie lines, and even a wheel or two here and there, covered by space dust that never washes away, these items

look no different from Earth than the dust covered rocks and craters. Were the astronauts silenced? Without a doubt,

with the ultimate threats used and on occasion carried out in those days - death, in a manner that is undetectable as an

execution. Those with high security clearances know these are not idle threats, as they have seen them enforced or

learn of these instances, and thus take them quite seriously.

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ZetaTalk: NASA Wars

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ZetaTalk: NASA Wars

Note: written on Jul 15, 1997

NASA has been a traditional stronghold advocating the right of the elite to privileged information, and many at the top

of this organization are reluctant to see this focus change. As members of MJ12, they are frequently active CIA agents,

and thus these top executives play a dual role with allegiance to both organizations. Where the CIA dominated MJ12

in the early days, MJ12 has been increasingly casting aside this influence to the extent that CIA agents within MJ12

are almost excluded from decision making and their dual allegiance is considered a handicap rather than an asset.

Under orders to follow recent changes in policy designed to promote the Awakening, hardened advocates of the old

line have dragged their feet and frankly operated in an subordinate manner.

What should be remembered in these matters is that membership in MJ12 always involves an agreement by the

member to grant MJ12 the Right to Terminate the member should this be considered necessary. This was, of course, a

casual agreement by CIA members in the past, who looked at the general operating mode, almost exclusively under

CIA influence, and thought themselves quite safe. Where this termination clause is thought to cover leaks, the

suppression of information, it also covers refusal to follow direct orders from the MJ12 ruling boards. Passive

resistance is often overlooked, unless the individual is in a position within society such that they and only they can

implement an MJ12 order. In these matters, refusal to cooperate can become critical, and termination might be the

result for refusal to play an activist role.

Such was the case going into the 1997 Mars mission, where a probe was committed to examine plateaus on Mars long

claimed to hold a Sphinx-like head distinctively hominoid in appearance. Severely repressed in the past, shots from

various angle could excite discussion like no other object, as the face would be reveals undeniably as an artifact, not a

natural formation appearing to be a face only a certain angles create shadows giving this illusion. The cooperation of

NASA was imperative on this MJ12 mission, and critical points could be missed unrecoverable if absolutely

cooperation was not assured.

The 1997 Mar's Pathfinder probe, under the direction of Jurgen Rahe, had to have a

cooperative hand at the helm or face failure, in the view of MJ12, and thus after relentless

arguments with a man adamantly opposed to the new MJ12 policies, his termination was

arranged. This was not a decision arrived at casually, nor was it a quick decision. A

determination that a compromise was not possible, and that Rahe could not be removed from

his post in a timely manner, were factors in the decision. Highly visible operations such as

NASA probes do not allow wiggle room, and a displaced executive was sure to be

interviewed or endlessly hounded for comments. Such exposure, and the risk an angry Rahe

posed, were also factors in the decision. A competent and highly reluctant executive could not

be casually displaced, but a death by an accident seemingly caused by mother nature could be

arranged, and was deemed the less of two evils.

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ZetaTalk: Moon Landing

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Note: written on May 15, 2002

A hot topic on the Internet and among conspiracy buffs is whether man ever indeed landed on the Moon, or all the

evidence provided to mankind is faked. As evidence of a fake is apparent wind blowing a flag, dust raised by landing

feet blowing about as though air were present to move it, shadows inappropriate for the Moon, and other evidence of

atmosphere or staging. Did man go to the Moon? Absolutely. Were dramatizations done in film theaters? Absolutely.

both occurred, and here's why.

As is often reported, the early Moon landings involved startled astronauts making statements on live feed about "we

were not the first" and the like. Likewise, live video feed showed trash on the Moon giving evidence that activity had

occurred in the past, and perhaps the recent past. Evidence of awareness of the alien presence, or other information not

given to the general public, can often be discerned from what is not said as much as what is said. Why the 3 month

delay in reporting, by different media organizations, if approval to report was not a part of the process? Likewise, the

astronauts were on a need-to-know basis, as they were expected to be mobbed if they succeeded and went on the

lecture tour, often interviewed and the like, and slips were to be avoided by telling them as little as possible. Thus, they

were genuinely startled by what they found on the Moon, and their handlers in Houston were unaware of the degree of

evidence they would in fact find on the Moon. Oops! What to do? Lets just film some new footage, and release that,

instead.

NASA was aware that there were alien enclaves on the dark side of the Moon, but unaware of the trash on the visible

side. During early genetic engineering projects, the engineers often used the Moon as a lab, fearing and wishing to

avoid the large carnivores on Earth. During these genetic engineering episodes, they would scarcely be hiding on the

dark side of the Moon! Why hide? The aliens talking to NASA going into the Apollo missions were Service-to-Self,

part of Alternative 2, to set up camps off Earth as a survival means during the coming pole shift. They were on the dark

side as Service-to-Self aliens do not do density shifting well, ala the movie The Fly, and their masters do not allow

their minions to shift during missions, for this reason. Thus, they are in 3rd Density, highly visible from Earth should

they not be on the dark side of the Moon. NASA expected this, but discussion on past genetic engineering projects,

which were not done by the Service-to-Self, never came up!

The astronauts were read the riot act when they returned, having blabbered their first impressions on the Moon. It has

been obvious to those looking at the pattern that prior to this live feeds were the norm, and after delayed and only

partial release of video and audio was allowed. When a heavy job of intimidation is done, with death threats and worse

than death threats, it takes a lot to release this. Beat a dog each hour, viciously, for months, and then try to tell it that

was all in the past. The dog has lost trust, cowers, growls, avoids, and will likely never trust humans again most

certainly if not in the same company. NASA has not changed hands, is still the same agency, infiltrated by CIA, and

thus the astronauts, as their beaten dogs, are loath to trust.

Note: Below added during Nov 16, 2002 Live ZetaTalk IRC Session.

NASA of late has been dealing with its many failures, its inability to get a space station operational in time to stage

escape to Mars, and the months upon months of delays getting any shuttles up at all. Wanting to be a player, perhaps

be viewed as important by the elite with money and bunkers and guns, they hope to be influential in the public eye.

They have for years denied the public direct Hubble images, been caught endlessly air brushing out UFO's, and are

suspected all around the world of a conspiracy regarding the Moon landing itself. Well of course they went to the

Moon, and landed, but they also filmed footage on Earth to fill in, as they could not trust their own men to avoid

blurting out the truth. Now, covered with the lint of decades of lies and deception, and the increasing pool of specific

information on just when and how they have lied, they come forth declaring themselves clean. Why did they

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ZetaTalk: Moon Landing

announced new information regarding the Moon Landing, and then withdraw? There was a final rehearsal, and all the

many glitches that would only inflame the conspiracy theorists were discovered. This pig is too dirty to ever clean up, and the less they say, the better, was the decision.

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ZetaTalk: International Cooperation

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ZetaTalk: International Cooperation

Note: written on Nov 15, 1995

MJ12 has a reach that goes beyond US borders and in essence makes MJ12 operations international. This is due

primarily to a like mind set regarding the dangers of public panic, a threat which all governments intrinsically abhor.

Where there is a very small minority of corporate leaders who are aware of the potential for a pole shift, as this is a

very closely held secret, the rest of them, through being golfing buddies or having a glass of wine or scotch in their

elite resorts together, hear talk. Such exposure as the Bohemian Club on the West Coast of the US is an example of

how these elite multinationals rub elbows with politicians and world leaders and hear innuendo, hints, eyebrow lifting.

If one cannot communicate, as one is barred from this, one can communicate through body language, a hint that

something is around the corner. International cooperation thus happens naturally, emerging from any first meeting on

these issues, and can be counted on to be solid and unwavering.

The goal is to keep the masses quiescent, at least until the last minute, especially since the governments of the world

don't know what to do about the issues presented by the alien presence and the pending pole shift, and in most cases

are unable to carry out any plans or actualize any hopes they may have. Can't make it go away, can't influence the

outcome, can't politic into the inside track, so let's just not talk about it. In this way life goes on as before, with the

establishment on top and loving every minute of it. In the past such tactics as suppression of media coverage on

sightings was automatic, and for those who doubt that the media worldwide could be so suppressed we would point to

the close link between governments or corporate interests and the media. The media dances to the piper, who in many

cases frankly owns the media, both morally and financially.

In like manner this international cooperation will take a turn toward revelation, as the establishment has come to view

this as the lesser of two evils. Since they cannot make the alien presence or the pending pole shift go away, they must

act to lessen panic as the populace gradually wakes up. MJ12 and its international buddies are now all running in the

other direction. An about face.

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ZetaTalk: Global Conspiracy

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ZetaTalk: Global Conspiracy

Note: written on Oct 15, 1996

Do the countries of the world cooperate with each other, because of the alien presence? Most certainly, as to do

otherwise would be a statement that the alien presence does not affect them, where of course, it has an immense effect.

Imagine yourself a ruler, whether an elected ruler or as a result of birthright. Whatever else this position of power

brings in the form of perks, it also produces anxiety. Those in power don't want to lose their position, and the alien

presence thus threatens all who hold a position of power. The establishment is afraid that they will be seen as impotent,

and thus drop in stature in the eyes of those who look to them for protection and leadership. The military, in particular,

is prone to this worry, as this is their job. Those at the helm of industry worry that all will collapse if their workers

don't attend to their duties, and those who live off the inflated value of paper money in all its many forms worry that

their house of cards will collapse if the future does not seem secure to the public.

Thus, a global conspiracy due to the threat of the alien presence occurs naturally. This innate conspiracy takes many

forms, but up until recently has most certainly included suppression of chatter about UFO sightings, suppression of

contactee reports to the point of eliminating them by eliminating the contactee, inserting a fear of cooperation with

aliens by spreading falsehoods about their motives, and claiming a false alliance with aliens where alien technology or

capabilities could be taken on by association. It is widely rumored that wars have been waged to distract the populace

from the real action, and this is true. Since undeniable proof fell into the establishment's lap at Roswell, the focus on

the superpowers has not been on the issues that fill the newspapers, but on how to maintain control. Nevertheless, the

normal business of government and the normal priorities of the vast majority of mankind who is unaware of the real

drama continues, as before. Thus, the global conspiracy is an undercurrent, at most.

Black budgets have been fed by means that the populace would find disgusting and disappointing - drug running and

waging war so that the military industrial complex is flooded with funds, poorly audited. War has the added advantage

of distracting the populace, as families worry about loved ones in combat, and when death and maiming are the threat,

who looks for UFO stories in the news. Massive monitory scams have been perpetrated, such as the BCCI bank and its

predecessors, all of which had the hand of the CIA firmly at the helm. These moneys were collected to launch a

defense against the alien presence, to protect the elite from the effects of the pole shift they all knew was coming soon,

and due to the secret nature of the operations, for the pleasure of those who knew that no one could audit them.

The global conspiracy runs today as before, with a difference. Where before the focus was on suppression of chatter

about the alien presence, now this chatter is encouraged. Where before the focus was to deny that a pole shift was

pending, now the populace is being encouraged to think that something is around the corner, whether due to global

warming or a dropping jet stream or the possibility of meteors or simply holes in the ozone layer. Those in the know

have determined that they cannot escape the pole shift, or deflect the alien presence or prevent mankind's awakening to

the reality of either. Thus, they now fear panic in an unprepared public more than they fear an awakened public. Thus,

the global conspiracy is now a conspiracy of deliberate leaks, information channels supported, and pole shift

preparation by various segments of society. The establishment is well aware that a collapse of civilization will affect

them more than those they currently look down on. If they can't escape, then they must stand and prepare.

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ZetaTalk: Bilderberger Group

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ZetaTalk: Bilderberg Group

Note: written on Nov 15, 1996

Humans have a long standing tradition - when one doesn't know what to do about an issue, form a committee. Thus it

was that the Bilderberg Group formed. It is not hard to imagine the state of affairs after Roswell. The heads of state of

US allies and their close confidants, chairmen of major US or international companies and their confidants, and a

number of scientists from prestigious universities or institutes were aware of the alien presence but were unsure what

this meant for the future of the Earth. Were the aliens friendly as stated, or deceptive? The answer, as we have

explained, is both, but to humans who considered themselves leaders the answer was not at all clear, and many still do

not have it sorted out today. They tend to lump all alien visitors together and thus endlessly discuss all manner of

speculation on what might be unfolding.

The membership of the Bilderberg Group changes over time, but only slightly, as the original group was tasked with

sorting out the issues and coming forth with recommendations, and the mission is not yet accomplished. They meet

periodically, in secret, here and there around the face of the globe. They start up where they left off at the last meeting,

and churn the issues and possibilities until they again become exhausted. Like most committees that cannot come up

with an action plan, the only thing they accomplish is their self perpetuation.

Note: below written on June 10, 2006 on the GodlikeProduction Live ZetaTalk show.

The Bilderberg Group is meeting for 2006 in Ottowa. Per Alex Jones on Prison Planet there were 123

participants on the list for 2004. 32% were corporate, CEO or directors, 30% were political, heads of

state or ministers or in parliament, 16% represent institutes, foundations, or universities with a focus on

economics, 15% were financial, representing banks or investment firms, and 7% were media

representatives, editors and the like. What are they up to.

We have explained in the past that the Bilderberg Group was formed originally to deal with the issue of the alien

presence, its impact on the populations and economies of the world. Would the populace panic, bringing with it

economic devastation? How to control this? Perhaps with a gradual education program, but certainly with media

suppression when sightings and crop circles appeared. None of this is news. Once formed, this group of course

discussed other matters. They had inside information garnered from MJ12 not only on the alien presence but also on

the anticipated passage of Planet X. As concern about the public's reaction to the alien presence diminished, and the

time of the passage loomed close, this became their primary concern and now dominates their discussions. We have

mentioned that only Face to Face meetings on Planet X are occurring, among those in the know, for fear that communications fall into the public realm. Even highly encrypted communications can be deciphered, such is the

concern that our words on the pending passage be confirmed. We have mentioned that Face to Face meetings between

heads of state such as the recent visit by China's Hu to the White House had on the agenda territorial divisions, where

the line is considered crossed, what territories each major country considers key or cares little about.

In an economic summit such as the Bilderberg Group, the focus is naturally on economic issues. It is no secret, even to

the deluded public which gets fed the an upbeat story by the well controlled media, that the world is at the point of

economic collapse. This is a confidence game that requires public confidence in the system to survive. The value of

stocks is often several multiples over the real value of a corporation. Certainly the value of real estate in inflated

markets is several times its real worth. Gambling on the commodity markets and hedge funds assumes that things will

go on as they are. Banks depend on the money they loan being returned, with interest, and when this situation becomes

untenable, the banks fail, pulling everyone who invested money into the bank down the drain with the bank. Thus, the

dominant economic interests of the Bilderberg Group force the discussions into this realm, how to maintain the status

quo while the economic world collapses!

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Price controls, behind the scenes already in place, with selective closing of banks to prevent a run on these banks, laws

to prevent banks from being looted by investors trying to pull their savings out, increased secrecy on the financial

manipulation going on today behind the scenes, such as the now hidden M3 source of funding for the US Federal

Reserve. Will these maneuvers work? They cannot keep factories open when there is no market for products, cannot

produce crops when the weather creates crop failure, cannot create a consumer base when bankruptcies are at a all-

time high. They can only chirp false employment statistics, false values for stocks and bonds and real estate, false

expectations, and hope any members of the public with a dime in their pockets buy the line and go spend that dime.

Meanwhile, the public will increasingly move to the barter system, whether this is represented as a money exchange or

merely an exchange of goods. It will not be to hold money, but to in essence exchange goods, quickly, using money as

the medium briefly. When confidence in the financial system falls further, it will become a frank barter system for

goods, no money as a medium of exchange. The Bilderberg Group, their heads in the clouds, will continue to operate

as though they are controlling economics, even as they become irrelevant.

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ZetaTalk: Trilateral Commission

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ZetaTalk: Trilateral Commission

Note: written on Nov 15, 1996

Governments worldwide are run primarily as dictatorships and secondarily by committee. Even democracies that have

emerged in human society are run primarily by dictatorship, each executive or appointed head running the area under

his or her control like a petty dictator. Where the rules are such that the petty dictators can't simply bark orders and get

on with the business of the day, committees are formed to come forth with recommendations, which almost invariably

mirror what the petty dictators desired to be told. On the issue of the alien presence, where several countries that were

and have remained US allies at the time of Roswell were present when MJ12 was formed, there was no clear dictator

to be put in charge. Just as with judges, where the courts find they must have one or three, but never two judges

determining the outcome, just so the Trilateral Commission was formed.

This committee was commissioned to hear out the concerns of the member states and come to some conclusion about

what steps, if any, to take. MJ12 is a US government agency, where the Trilateral Commission is an international

advisory committee. In truth, it holds little power and comes to few, if any, conclusions. The issue of the alien

presence is fraught with so many unknowns that the usual conclusion is to do nothing, as that seems the safest step.

Nothing is being done and life goes on as before, so continue to do nothing - that is the conclusion. Doing nothing, or

holding the status quo, is often interpreted to mean suppressing talk of the alien presence, so action of sorts is in fact

inferred as a result of the conclusions reached by the Trilateral Commission.

Like most governing committees, the Trilateral Commission does not lead, but rather reacts. As the alien presence can

no longer be denied, due to the increased sightings of late, we expect the conclusions reached by the Trilateral

Commission to result in doing nothing less energetically, with less vigorous suppression of talk about the alien

presence lest the commission as a secret committee be discovered by their actions, which would stand out against the

back drop of enthusiastic chatter too glaringly. As you say of government, if you want nothing done, send it to

committee.

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ZetaTalk: Council of Foreign Relations

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Note: written on Nov 15, 1996

Where MJ12 operations were intended to run in such a covert manner that the public would never even learn of their

existence, the interface with foreign nations pushed into the public realm. In the past, where the US and its allies and

multinational corporations agreed to suppress awareness of the alien presence, this was accomplished in the US by the

influence that federal agencies have over local governments and by the cooperation of those controlling major media

content. But what occurred in a Third World country if a sighting or contactee story got media coverage? It would

hardly do to have the US or its allies silent about these matters while other countries talked openly. Suppression only

succeeds when it is unilateral.

Thus, the MJ12 arm that reached out into the world at large, beyond its control, sought to influence nations to

cooperate by maintaining control over US foreign relations. US dollars to be invested, trade agreements, the placement

of military bases - all could be used as leverage to gain agreement with the aims of MJ12. Thus it has been that the

Council of Foreign Relations seems inordinately involved in matters that seem only faintly connected to foreign affairs.

Look to the larger picture and it starts to make sense. Now that the press to suppress has moved to controlled leaks and

information releases designed to awaken the populace, expect the Council of Foreign Relations to lean its influence in

this direction.

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ZetaTalk: Illuminati

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ZetaTalk: Illuminati

Note: written on Nov 15, 1996

Where MJ12 and its tentacles into intelligence agencies and governments throughout the world and multinational

corporations have tried to stay out of the public eye, the Illuminati have done the opposite. Their symbol, the single

eye, is discovered so frequently that interest is raised, rather than suppressed. this is exactly what the Illuminati want,

as they want the populace to feel manipulated, hopeless, left out of the loop, and that others more special and

privileged are in control, in the know, and able to manipulate events in their favor. If this sounds like a Service-to-Self

oriented organization, one designed to increase the hopelessness and fear that make emerging souls inclined toward the

Service-to-Self orientation, that's because that is the basis of the Illuminati mission and the motive behind everything

they do. The eye, a symbol taken from ancient times so as to imply an age-old organization, carries the implication of

being all-seeing, never blinking, and thus all-knowing.

The populace reads rumors about Illuminati, reads the names of powerful and well placed persons supposedly in the

Illuminati, finds these same persons increasingly in power and concludes, as was intended, that the rumors about the

clout the Illuminati holds must be true. This was a well thought out fear campaign, with the moves in the game being

played exactly as planned. Bear in mind that those in control of the Illuminati fear campaign are not those whose

names appear as members on the lists leaked to the populace. The names on the lists are individuals being guided into

power position by those able to manipulate such circumstances, and are individuals of great talent and promise so their

planned ascension meets with little resistance. Thus where these names appear as Illuminati members, these

individuals are not members of the Illuminati. Look at who is in a position to promote the ascention of these

individuals, and who is standing behind those individuals with a gun pointed at their heads, to see who is conducting

the Illuminati fear campaign.

Below written on Jul 29, 2005 for the bbsradio Radio show 'Who Runs the World'

Since we have described those who manipulate world events, based on their great wealth, as the Puppet Masters, does

this mean the Puppet Masters are the Illuminati? No, though the Illuminati virtually worships the Puppet Masters,

desires to be associated with this clout and influence, and thus often are used to further the Puppet Masters goals. The

Illuminati are an old society, centuries old, and emerging in Europe naturally were composed of royalty, members of

court in attendance to royalty, and organized religion which in those days were often so closely allied with royalty, as

state religions, to be one and the same. Do the royalty of Europe run the world? Do the heads of organized religions,

the Vatican, run the world? On what basis? It is wealth that runs the world, by the many means we have outlined, from

purchasing cooperation from corporations, which they own, to assisting their Puppets into political power via their

control of the media and assets to be used for bribery and coercion. The members of the Illuminati seek favors from

the Puppet Master, and offer services, and in this regards act as a supplicant, not a master.

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ZetaTalk: Masons

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ZetaTalk: Masons

Note: written on Dec 15, 1996

Membership in the Masons is often mentioned in association with secret societies holding special knowledge about the

alien presence or alien technology. The reason for this association is somewhat natural, given the structure and

operation of the Masons - rigid rules, endless hierarchies, and privileges withheld from all but the elite members. As

with the structure and operation of the military, this is highly attractive to those in the Service-to-Self - it is their

structure and operation, and they feel at home!

Thus in the early days of MJ12, when fear of what the alien presence meant for mankind held sway, the controlling

membership of MJ12 held an inordinate number of Masons. This is no longer the case, but this predominance worked

its way into NASA and the Apollo program, as individuals selected for key posts were chosen based on their long

standing habit of following nonsensical rules. Those at the top wanted complete control, and only virtual automatons

such as the devout Masons often are, were trusted. Thus potential astronauts, faced with the special screening rumored

to be in place, often joined the Masons and went through the motions simply to be included in the space program. This

surface loyalty often went to the extremes of including Masonic rituals while out in space, a routine that can be best

understood if one considers that the astronauts simply wanted to be brought back home alive!

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ZetaTalk: Star Wars

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Note: written by Jul 15, 1995. Planet X and the 12th Planet are one and the same.

Are humans attempting to preempt the coming cataclysms by developing a Star Wars shield? Yes. This is the reason

for all the press during the past decade or so for a Star Wars shield. Was this shield to be against space ships invading

from other galaxies? How could this be when the space ships can move into another density, and slide right past the

shield. Was this shield to be against nuclear armed missiles directed toward the Americas? If one considers nuclear

fallout, the scenario of a nuclear winter described so eloquently by a famous author, one understands that even nuclear

weapons exploded in space harm the intended target and in most cases would cause more havoc than if allowed to

localize.

Was this shield to be for the mass of hail stones that compose the tail of the giant comet, the 12th Planet, which

sweeps the Earth during every passage and peppers the Earth here and there? The shield could not possibly knock out

every tiny hail stone, as by shear numbers this would be impossible. If Star Wars is to protect the Earth from anything

that can come down from the passage of Planet X, such as trash in its tail, large enough to cause impact damage and

not burn up in the atmosphere, then they wholely forget that the atmosphere, and any satellites or Star Wars aparatus

up there will be torn away and thrown out to space. But then, these folks are not listening to US.

What then is the unstated purpose of the Star Wars shield? The hope is that by putting up into the skies giant lasers,

that the comet itself could be disabled by a direct hit. As this planet is massive, outweighing the Earth by several times,

destruction would not be by physical means. The intention, and the hope, was to start some kind of chain reaction that

could cause the planet to blow itself up. The means by which this would happen has not yet been established, but the

Service-to-Self humans contemplating this wanted to get started anyway.

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ZetaTalk: Russian Star Wars

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Note: written on Dec 15, 1995. Planet X and the 12th Planet are one and the same.

Where the US Star Wars project was developed in reaction to a threat from outer space, the anticipated reappearance

of the 12th Planet, the Russians preceded the US in deploying defensive space technology. The race to space had

multiple motives, among them supporting commercial telecommunications and research, spying from on high,

affording an unobstructed astronomical view, and preparing to colonize space. Beyond the public agendas were hidden

agendas too numerous to mention. The military in both the US and Russia were breathless just contemplating the

possibilities. However, using space for aggression is a double-edged sword, which the sober minded argued effectively

against and thus neither the Russian or the US Star Wars programs ever deployed weapons into space.

What could go wrong? Nuclear weapons launched from the surface of the Earth involve many safeguards, checks and

balances, and they are all close at hand, palpable, with the worst case being the accidental detonation of a bomb in its

silo or dropping before completing its trajectory or flight. Silo sites and trajectories or flight paths can be controlled.

However, nukes in space are a wild card, as equipment failure could cause the bomb to drop anywhere, including on

its makers. In like manner massive lasers of any type, which have never been developed to the requisite degree, were

feared for their potential should they malfunction, turning on their makers. However, the many plans and discussions

that did in fact take place during the space race decades have endlessly fed the rumor mill.

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ZetaTalk: Moon Installations

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Note: written on May 15, 1996

Enclaves of Service-to-Self aliens are situated on what is known as the dark side of the Moon, the side that never faces

the Earth, positioned there so as to be in compliance with the Council of World's requirement that an element of doubt

be maintained. Endless rumors abound, however, due to leaks by members of the secret government or frank capture

on film in NASA's archives. It is clear that ships are exiting and returning to the dark side of the Moon. There is

nothing mysterious about residential arrangements, which harbor facilities for ship repair, food production,

administrative activities, and any amusements that overlords may personally be able to secure for themselves. These

aliens in the Service-to-Self orientation are required, as are all aliens visiting Earth, to wait for The Call and allow the

human to be in control.

Suspicion is deep among human groups digging for the truth, as they suspect their government is either in control of

this installation or has struck a deal. Members of the government may have been told that they will be taken care of

when the cataclysms occur, but these are simply the usual lies that the Service-to-Self have no qualms about putting

forth. The only humans who will be living among the Service-to-Self after the cataclysms are those solidly in the

Service-to-Self, and they will find this anything but a salvation.

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ZetaTalk: Disappearing Satellites

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Note: written on Mar 15, 1996

Man assumes the heavens surrounding his home to be a placid place - empty space, a void, a vacuum. On occasion,

perhaps, a meteor happens by, burning up in the Earth's atmosphere - a shooting star. The concept man holds is for

matter to be settled onto a planet's surface, except for the asteroid belt where there is no planet for matter to settle

upon. This concept is terribly wrong, as space is anything but a void, and trash of all sizes floats everywhere. Some

trash moves into the Earth's vicinity, some trash orbits the Earth, and in some cases the Earth passes through trash on

her orbit around the Sun. Man, in his exploration of space, has added to that trash, littering space the way he litters his

highways. Satellites are a calculated gamble, in that those who send them aloft calculate the odds and figure their

satellite won't run into contact with anything large enough to damage, much less break it up. They've been wrong a

number of times, and have no-one but themselves to blame, as these fatal accidents are on the increase because man's

littering is on the increase. Natural trash tends to be small, like dust, with anything larger migrating downward over

time and burning up in the atmosphere. Man's litter will eventually descend also, over the eons, but in the short term

float overhead like missiles of death for delicate satellites.

Note: addition below made during the Jan 16, 2002 Live ZetaTalk IRC Session.

We have predicted that satellites will malfunction in the year before the shift. Satellites have already been

misbehaving, by early 2002, but the public is not informed anymore as they were in 1999 or thereabouts. More

satellites are put up, a backup system in place, and the functions overlap at all times. Since the military and a few

telecom companies are doing this, the public is kept in the dark. Few know the number of satellites and their function

and ownership. The military and intel groups have all manner of satellites up that the public is clueless about. This is

depicted in movies, at times, such as Enemy of the State, which is of course treated as fiction when it is closer to the

truth than not! Satellites cannot be seen, but the common man, who only hears of them because they are in the news.

They are reported to transmit phone messages, bounce TV signals, and do this for the public. The military, not only in

the US but other countries, use them to spy and can maneuver them to scan closely, or change trajectory, so they pass

over various parts of the globe under their path.

Thus, this issue is not when malfunctioning will start, but when the backup systems will begin to fail. Outages will

occur increasingly, as 2002 progresses. During 2003, there will be outages that last for days, and will most likely be

blamed on the sun. Land lines will be put into use, commandeered for the military so that people find them busy as is

the case on New Years Eve or after disasters when many people want to phone each other. Thus, the most noticeable

effect will be a lack of TV reception, and busy phone lines. But this, as with slowing, may not be extreme until 2003

[Note: see 2003 Date explanation], when as we have stated matters will be so distracting for most of the populace that this will be scarcely noticed. These distractions will include starvation rampant in many countries, rising seas, politicians

unavailable to explain matters, bank failures, unemployment and personal bankruptcy, homelessness and migration of

desperate people, etc. No satellites will be up after the shift, which is why we suggest short wave. Land lines will be

torn, and the broken link will be in effect.

Note: addition below made during the May 18, 2002 Live ZetaTalk IRC Session.

Lately, in early 2002, there has been noticeable satellite trouble. As we mentioned over a year ago, problems with the

SOHO and other satellites were due not to the Sun, but to the approaching Planet X. Then the problem seemed to go

away, but this was, as we mentioned some months ago, due to the US government and others lofting additional

satellites to cover such outages. They did not report this, and the public is in general unaware of just how many

satellites are aloft. For instance, by using China and other launch sites, remote and inaccessible to the news reporters,

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ZetaTalk: Disappearing Satellites

the public becomes unaware of how many satellites the intelligence community has aloft. So what is then causing the

new outages? Is this interference from the Sun, as reported?

We have predicted that satellite problems will be so common by mid-2002 that phone conversations will on occasion

drop, and e-mail be delayed to the point of being returned to sender on occasion. Regardless of how many satellites are

lofted, all will on occasion sputter, and this will be noticeable by mid-2002. This is caused by the same disturbances in

the equilibrium of the solar system that is causing magnetic diffusion in your Earth's core, and heating and swirling of

the core. Mankind does not understand or comprehend the multitude of sub-atomic particles that exist, and flow in

patterns and have balance in the solar system. Disrupted equilibrium means so much more than merely gravity and

magnetism. Thus, the story line will be the Sun, having a Mega-Cycle, as was floated out some years ago by NASA lackeys. How did they know this would be, per their story, a Mega-Cycle? No data is proffered to the public, and the

current satellite problems will be proffered instead as proof. But go back to when the story was first floated. How did

they know, supposedly, then that this would be a Mega-Cycle. This is how the public can determine that this is,

indeed, a cover for the approaching Planet X.

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ZetaTalk: Near Earth Objects

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Note: written on Sep 15, 1999. Planet X and the 12th Planet are one and the same.

Near Earth Objects are getting a lot of attention, not only in the press but in movies such as Deep Impact. The theme is

that falling asteroids threaten to destroy life on Earth. This is a lot of hype that NASA and JPL and the elite they are

closely allied with are foisting on the public. Of course these objects have been floating out there since the beginning

of time, through all of man’s history, and the Earth has not come to an end, nor would it. You are being fed a line, that

an object a mile wide would cause life on Earth to snuff out. This is nonsense. Such objects have clearly fallen on the

Earth. Look at some of the craters that are apparent, the one that forms the Gulf of Mexico, for instance. Did life snuff

out? It’s been continuing steadily. They are feeding this to you because they need an excuse to dredge up Star Wars

again and spend tons of money to protect the Earth from what they see coming at it.

They know that the 12th Planet is approaching. They’ve analyzed its path and have concluded the Earth will be OK,

though the 12th Planet does not act like a normal comet. It has its own course, based on it’s weight, but is coming on

predictably according to our assertions. However, they now know that they cannot escape the cataclysms. Some of

them are trying to get to the surface of Mars, in a grand hooray about looking for water and seeing if they can establish

an atmosphere. This is not for you, the taxpayer, this is for a small handful of the elite who are hoping that they can

distance themselves from the high tides and earthquakes that the Earth will experience, but none of that will succeed.

Nor will attempting to shoot the 12th Planet out of the sky succeed, sending Plutonium up in probes that will be spun

around and headed in a direction where they can perhaps cause an explosion on the surface of the approaching planet

and send it out of its course. None of this will succeed because the hominoids that live on the 12th Planet and the

hominoids that live on the Earth are to be quarantined from each other and not interfere with each other. Thus, any

missile that they would choose to send would fail, just as many attempts at establishing space stations or getting items

launched have failed. So take the hype about Near Earth Objects with a grain of salt, and think about history, before

you go down the path that NASA and JPL and the elite they serve would have you be led.

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ZetaTalk: Nuclear Site

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Note: written by Jul 15, 1995

It has been repeatedly reported that ships are seen more frequently in the vicinity of nuclear installations than

elsewhere. This is entirely untrue, but we doubt our statements will convince many. The reason this myth cannot be

countered is the fervor with which those perpetrating this hoax persist. Why the fervor? Standing behind this myth is

the desire in certain humans to hold a weapon that can injure ourselves and other non-human visitors to the Earth. If

nuclear explosions destroy us, or upset our space/time continuum, then we cannot elude humans simply by slipping

into another dimension. We must leave the Earth. This myth is fostered by those who would self delude themselves

that they possess such a weapon, and also by those who would delude others into an alliance with humans solely.

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ZetaTalk: Philadelphia Experiment

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ZetaTalk: Philadelphia Experiment

Note: written by Jul 15, 1995

The Philadelphia experiment was fictional, a disinformation scheme to divert humans from exploring the real

experiment that occurred. The Philadelphia experiment much in the media is a fraud perpetrated to distract people from

pursuing the real Philadelphia experiment, which didn't take place anywhere near Philadelphia. Servicemen were

indeed injured, and because the risk of questions existed, the cover story was put up to effectively point any

questioners to a dead end. The real experiment with moving between dimensions, which can and does occur naturally

on your 3rd Density planet, was done in a warehouse in Kansas - rural, remote, virtually uninhabited because of sparse

farm houses and farm hands. The area was inhabited only during planting and harvesting times.

Under intense compression, such as occurs in the center of the Earth, 3rd Density matter emits energy rays which

approximate those naturally occurring in 4th Density. These rays escape the core of the Earth in bursts on occasion,

thus causing the problems reported in the Bermuda Triangle, for instance, where ships or planes seem to disappear,

then reappear. Essentially, the 3rd Density matter is temporarily confused as to its proper rate of vibration, and moves

into the 4th Density state. This is akin to what we have done to contactees when they report having moved through

walls. However, in the hands of humans, who received information on how to produce this effect from Service-to-Self

aliens, this ability proved disastrous. Moving into 4th Density requires more than just bombardment of matter to the

point of compression tension. It requires a total shift, and if one expects to return, a total shift back.

The humans conducting this experiment were of such an orientation that they did not care about the servicemen being

used, or what might become of them. Rather than hesitate, knowing they did not have all the parameters in place, they

proceeded. The servicemen, who were encased in a metal box, were left partially in the 4th Density, along with

portions of their container. They were, of course, all dead, but the witnesses of this experiment, and the associates

whom the servicemen had just recently been mingling with, were many. The government concocted a repeat

experiment, which proceeded part way, enough so that the story as to the results was similar. Additional servicemen

were subjected, knowing the probably results, but most of these survived to chat among themselves and their families.

All secrets escape, leaks occur, and in this way the investigators would be altogether in the wrong vicinity, and talking

to altogether the wrong participants!

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ZetaTalk: Montauk Project

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ZetaTalk: Montauk Project

Note: written on May 15, 1996

Having observed that the Service-to-Self aliens they were in contact with could do marvelous things, the secret

government had no doubt that they could also travel through time. That this capacity is strictly regulated by the

Council of Worlds and is almost without exception never granted to the Service- to-Self crowd when they request

authorization was, of course, not mentioned. In concert with density shifting experiments in the Philadelphia

Experiments, time travel was attempted. This was an utter failure, with the human scientists tinkering with their

machines under instructions received from the Service-to-Self aliens, and suffering under the wrath of generals who

were sure that the project was only failing because of their incompetence. After a time, the project was put on hold,

due more to emotional and mental exhaustion than any change in plans.

Eventually, the generals involved realized that those in the Service-to-Self lie freely and without conscience, and

abandoned the project altogether. Nonetheless, rumors abound, and due to the sensational nature of the project and the

power that would accrue to those who might succeed, the rumors and interest in the Montauk experiment are unlikely

to die.

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ZetaTalk: Alternative 3

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ZetaTalk: Alternative 3

Note: written by Jul 15, 1995

Alternatives 1, 2, and 3 have been much bandied about, as solutions given to humans on how to approach the coming

Earth changes. Some stories have it that humans derived the three scenarios themselves, but the stories coming from

sources closer to the heart of the matter point to alien suggestions on these alternatives. This is correct. Why would

humans decide to locate on other planets to escape pollution or nuclear fallout, when the have neither the means to

travel to other planets, the capability of sustaining themselves there, or a pollution situation dire enough to be frantic

about escaping from? It is, therefore, obvious that these suggestions were given to humans by aliens, aliens in the

Service-to-Self orientation we might add. The alien agenda was falsely presented to the humans involved as being a

concern for their survival. As the high level government contacts were strongly in the Service-to-Self orientation, they

saw all this as their escape, their alternatives, and were not at any time thinking about humanity in general. What the aliens truly sought was to subvert these humans to sink more and more deeply into the Service-to-Self orientation. To

some degree, and with some humans, they succeeded.

Alternative 3 is suspected as having been implemented, as Alternatives 1 and 2 have been. The United States

government went underground, at Mount Weather and numerous other spots, as has been documented to the

satisfaction of even the skeptical reader. This fact is not even being denied by the government any more. Portions of

the government, and we are here speaking of rogue CIA officers, set out to trim and prune the Earth's humanity to their

liking. Thus we have the AIDs and Ebola viruses, as well as various wars and conflicts which the CIA always seems

to be at the center of. Likewise, Alternative 3 was implemented, but as the populace can't get up to the surface of other

planets, this cannot be demonstrated to the satisfaction of skeptics. Of course, there are clues such as the tight controls

placed over transmissions from probes, and the odd malfunction of the Mars probe just as it was about to hit pay dirt.

As the populace cannot get at the facts, and as we are not currently restrained by any agreement with the government

on this matter, and as there are not currently any Service-to-Self aliens involved on this issue whereby we would be

restrained by the Rules of Engagement - we will tell you about Alternative 3. As with the other Alternatives, the

particulars of this alternative were something the Service-to-Self aliens contacting the government were familiar with.

They are currently parked on the surface of planets in your Solar System - Mars, the Moon, and a dead planet in orbit

opposite your Earth, which you never see as the Sun blocks your view. They sent representatives of the US and other

governments up to these places, to demonstrate that such a living arrangement was hospitable. Matters soon went

amuck, however.

Soon the human guests became stressed in the heavy Service-to-Self environment. Most of the guests were simply 3rd

Density spirits, weighing and balancing and trying on for size the two choices in spiritual orientation - Service-to-Self

or Service-to-Other. Here, far from home, they found themselves watching, continuously, on a daily basis and with no

respite, the harsh reality of life in the Service-to-Self community. Stress diseases cropped up among the humans, ulcers

and heart palpitations and arthritic pains. They became distracted in their work, stricken with headaches and vague

feelings of weakness. Their human commanders, paranoid about living away from the Earth to begin with, attributed

all this to planetary factors such as gravity, air pressure, air composition, or perhaps strange rays that were not

measurable on their instruments.

The plan was abandoned, and the humans who participated were exterminated. Their bodies were not returned to

Earth, nor should one look for this to happen. One should recall that the members of the various governments who

were participating were strongly in the Service-to-Self orientation themselves, and had no hesitation on eliminating

their human volunteers, whom they had so warmly congratulated just weeks before. Those in the Service-to-Self

orientation are not noted for being truthful.

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The Moon was one of the planets occupied by humans as a result of the implementation of Alternative 3. As the Moon

is so close to the Earth, so reachable, the alien installations on the Moon have been a source of endless fascination by

amateur astronomers with telescopes and vivid imaginations. Can humans see these installations? They cannot, as they

are on what is termed the dark side of the Moon which never faces the Earth. However, the astronauts landing on the

Moon correctly noticed traces of activity, a surprise to them, and made comments which were instantly broadcast to

the rapt audience participating in this historic landing worldwide, the general populace. The astronauts were silenced in

the usual manner, and all forthcoming broadcasts have not been live. Do humans reside in the installations on the

Moon? No. These were abandoned when Alternative 3 was abandoned.

Ambassadors from the Service-to-Self orientation reside in 3rd Density on the Moon when they are not out and about

on the surface of the Earth, responding to The Call as given by various humans. Ourselves, the Zetas, live in 3rd

Density directly on the surface of the Earth, as has been explained, and do not reside in 3rd Density on Mars or the

Moon or any other planet in your Solar System that you are currently aware of, including the Earth's dead twin

orbiting opposite the Earth. We were not involved in the Alternative 3 installations, as we are the Service-to-Other

Zetas. The two groups do not mix.

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ZetaTalk: Immunization

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Note: written on Oct 15, 1997

The Gulf War Syndrome is a direct results of infection injected into the servicemen under the guise of immunizing

them. The deliberate exposure of these men to biological warfare elements and burning petroleum was to disguise this

infection. As has been noted during investigation of the causes of Gulf War Syndrome, the officers in charge were

many times deliberately lax in enforcing safety measures, which was no accident. The CIA, as with most of the

deliberate infection of what is termed undesirables by the New World Order, was at the fore in this escapade. The

purpose of this mass infection of unsuspecting foot soldiers was to measure the rate and speed of debility, which has

proved disappointing to those who would eliminate large blocks of the US population ahead of the cataclysms. As

might be expected, these blocks would be inner city blacks and Hispanic populations, considered aggressive and/or

unproductive by the elite.

There is much awareness of these plans in the collective consciousness, and thus specific warnings have been issued on

occasion. However, the immunization programs being conducted to date have not had any live infectious agents in

them, nor are they being used as a means of tagging the populace. Where this might be the hope of the New World

Order crowd, immunization programs today involve a large number of pharmaceutical companies and distributors, to

say nothing of local doctors working out of clinics. Deliberate infectious agents would surface, and work against any

future plans to use this route. Identifying chips are also not yet invented. These would have to be tiny, yet carry their

own transmitting mechanism. A dream, unlikely to be realized in the few remaining years before the cataclysms.

Deliberate infection via immunization shots should not be guarded against until the military becomes involved in these

programs. At this point such injections are likely to be based on voluntary programs, so as to avoid riot and rebellion,

within camps set up to house the indigent. Those who can live independently and have prepared are unlikely to

encounter such campaigns.

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ZetaTalk: Inoculations

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Note: written on Dec 15, 2001

There are some elements of the US government who long for this means of eliminating unwanted human baggage.

There are also many countries, industrialized as well as Third World, who are closely watching this play out, as they

also would like to use such a solution. However, the complications today outweigh the rewards:

1. Unless announced to a broad segment of society, the inoculations might afflict the families and loved ones of

the elite, or the elite themselves. Being able to steer the public to certain inoculation batches is difficult.

2. The virus in the inoculations intended to infect and disable the unwanted segment of the public can escape, be

passed from person to person, and like AIDS and Ebola, get out of hand.

3. At present, mass illness would overwhelm the public health system, and take too many workers out of the work

force, causing discomfort to the elite who rely on the wheels of commerce going on as before for their wealth

and comfort.

Thus, those contemplating this get too many arguments thrown at them every time they suggest it, and the matter gets

endlessly deferred to the future. By the time that the pole shift is upon these elite power mongers, there will not be

time to muster such an operation. Thus, it is unlikely to occur, except in isolated settings where the elite are fearful of

panic and demands, and nothing more is to be gained from the public to be poisoned by inoculations. At this time, in

2001, inoculations should be considered safe. Gulf War syndrome was a deliberate test, the poisons and germs not

present in the general inoculations given to the public. Thus, follow the advice of doctors, and your own common

sense. They are as safe as they were last year, or a decade ago, etc. The key to look for is a great press by the

government or administering body to take the inoculations, and the setting where the public has grown restless and

demanding, with the pole shift just around the corner.

Note: below written during the July 27, 2002 Live ZetaTalk IRC Session.

The US Military is feared, by their leaders, as they could go rogue, in pieces, and thus much discussion has occurred

about how to restrain them. This is not unlike the discussions in the halls of power in all countries, re keeping the

military as well as the common man in control. Most countries feed them well, pay them off, offer them spoils, to keep

the military in line. In other countries, they are offered a piece of the action, of power, and sit at the side of the

leadership. The US during the Gulf War, under the direction of another Bush not to be trusted, poisoned their military

personnel flagrantly. This was a test like the chemtrails, to see what germs might sicken, and weaken. This did not go

well, and has instead infected the US Military with suspicion, so that there is resistance even in the public to taking

inoculations.

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ZetaTalk: Medical Implants

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Note: written on May 15, 2002

Imagine a government such as the Bush Administration, pondering the coming pole shift. They are not certain it will

happen as we have defined, but note our other predictions have played out and are wary enough to be stockpiling food

stuffs and beefing up the military to use as their personal defense force, or so they hope. They are wary enough to be

pretending, publicly, that chemtrails do not exist. What might be their plans re the populace at large? Playing God, as

they do in their smoke filled rooms, they divide the populace into desirable and undesirables. Those considered

desirable are uniformly white, educated, passive in nature, and likely to be dependent upon others and desperate to

cooperate. Those considered undesirable are people of color, those whose culture has taught them rebellion, or those

prone to disease. In that most undesirables can be sorted out by color, social security number and past work record, or

police record, they are not a concern. They will simply be excluded from any government sponsored survivor camp.

But what about disease? Medical records are privileged, and few doctors are likely to change this practice over the

next year.

Thus, human implants are not to locate those to be saved, but to identify those to be excluded, for medical reasons.

Those rushing to be implanted are those who need to be quickly identified in a medical emergency. Ergo, they have a

disease, genetic, or needing medication, or some such problem.

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ZetaTalk: Project Prometheus

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Note: written on Oct 15, 1996

Various government project names have been floated out into the public rumor mill as false trails, the theory being that

the public will spend all their energy chasing a name, and any agents seemingly connected to the name, and will thus

not pay attention to the real action or individual involved. Project Prometheus is one such false trail, dressed up

properly in an occasional piece of paper, an occasional verbal leak from a valid CIA source, and mentioned repeatedly

in certain circles by individuals paid to do just that. Thus, where activities similar to those ascribed to Project

Prometheus have certainly taken place, they were relatively safe from scrutiny. Everyone was looking in the wrong

direction.

Project Prometheus is rumored to be an exchange of alien technology for certain favors granted by the government,

specifically being allowed to abduct the citizenry. We have addressed these issues, and explained that alien technology

was not given to humans, though aliens in the Service-to-Self orientation most certainly said this was to be the case.

They lie. In addition, an abduction right is not something that aliens need the government to grant, as the government

has no control over alien activities. What is called abduction is under the control of the human giving The Call, and

thus is under the control of the individual human desiring contact or participation in the hybrid program.

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ZetaTalk: Tesla

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ZetaTalk: Tesla

Note: written on Nov 15, 1995

Tesla was a genius given to grandiose plans, all of which failed. He did indeed ask for assistance from Service-to-Self

aliens, giving The Call, and many of his insights were due to conferences with these aliens, who found him remarkably

gullible. Tesla absolutely believed in what he was purporting and became a salesman with remarkably persuasive

abilities. The Service-to-Self aliens who toyed with Tesla knew they would not be allowed to give Tesla real

technology or knowledge, factors that would trip the balance between the orientations. However, lying to Tesla and

setting him off to set the stage for more of such games with humans is within the bounds they are allowed to operate

within. So they lied, and Tesla's eyes lit up, and just as expected Tesla ran around gathering disciples and sponsors. To

this day there are humans who firmly believe he was onto something and pursue his theories. Tesla postulated that

electrical energy could be harnessed to the degree that it could be captured as free energy and likewise redirected as

free energy.

He was given enough information from Service-to-Self aliens who answered his call to be able to demonstrate these

theories in a preliminary manner, using concepts and devices new to the science field. Therein lay his fame, and therein

lies the tenacity of his disciples. However, the Holy Grail they seek is not down the path they have been set upon.

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ZetaTalk: Underground Installations

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Note: written on Apr 15, 1997

Between the time of Roswell and the present day, that portion of US government which the tentacles of MJ12 had

reached absolutely were warned of the approach of the 12th Planet, and absolutely set about trying to protect

themselves in underground installations. The CIA was front and center in this regard, with the military close behind.

The underground installations were deemed the best alternative of the 3 considered - isolated underground

communities, sculpting and reducing the Earth's population to a select few, and riding out the cataclysms on another

planet such as Mars or the Earth's dead twin. Not only did this alternative not require the CIA and military to leave

their home planet with its comforts, it also avoided the steady spread of disease among the so-called undesirables

which inevitably started infecting the perpetrators too.

These underground installations, when discovered, were explained away as a cold war precaution in case of nuclear

attack, but a quick calculation belies that explanation. The number of people to be housed, and the amount of food and

water stored, would not support the residents for the length of time it would take for radioactivity to fade. The stores

would support them for days or weeks at best. Clearly these installations were meant for a short term stay, after which

the residents would emerge back onto the surface to scout about for supplies. With a safe and undetectable hideout, the

plan was to send out raiding parties that would come back with supplies, and disappear in front of those who might be

in hot pursuit of their snatched goods. Thus the government, sworn to protect and lead the people, would instead steal

from them, but as this was in the main nothing new to those planning this escape they saw no philosophical conflict in

proceeding.

Today MJ12 is not looking to avoid the coming cataclysms in underground installations, as they realize these will be

death traps, a fact the Service-to-Self aliens encouraging this alternative were well aware of. The underground

installations are still being used, however, to house activities the military would prefer the public not be aware of.

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ZetaTalk: Underground Tunnels

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ZetaTalk: Underground Tunnels

Note: written by Jul 15, 1995

Underground activities have taken place all over the United States in conjunction with activities desired by the Service-

to-Self aliens who early made contact with the government. The government soon became wary of these aliens, and

rightfully so, but have not disrupted the agreements they entered into for fear of reprisals. Since these aliens seem more

powerful than the government forces, and could presumably do as they wish with the Earth and its inhabitants, the

logic goes that there is no harm done. In truth, as the citizens of the United States don't burrow under the Earth but live

on the surface, there in fact is no conflict. There are factions of the government who plot means of destroying these

underground conclaves of Service-to-Self aliens, who have developed their own hate club, but it is all fantasy and no

results.

What are these aliens doing down there, and what future repercussions will this have? They are in fact not occupied in

any useful activity at all, but are keeping it up just because it is upsetting people. Their goals, as we have stated, are to

gain recruits. Fear and suspicion, rather than cooperation and enlightenment, are their mode. They have taken to

emitting low frequency sounds, which some but not all humans can detect. This affect health, and makes everyone

uneasy, especially as the government can't explain what's going on and gets the blame. Humans hearing that the

government is up to something down there, in conjunction with evil aliens, are discomfited, and that, of course, is the

goal. Good, say the Service-to-Self aliens, lets thump around some more down there, and get on everyone's nerves.

Soon they'll start suspecting each other, pointing fingers. What fun!

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ZetaTalk: HAARP

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ZetaTalk: HAARP

Note: written on Nov 15, 1995

The US Military will merrily chase any proposal that promises them bigger guns, and most certainly chases after the

proposal that promises them an ultimate weapon. Such a situation occurred during the development of the bomb during

World War II. Money is no object. Massive and brutally enforced secrecy campaigns have and do occur. So given past

history, the HAARP project could indeed be real, confirming the rumors that abound. However, HAARP is not a real

project, and the tale has simply been put forth in order to afford a cover for other activities. The US Military is deeply

embarrassed by their past involvement with Service-to-Self aliens, an involvement which is rapidly ending but

nonetheless lingers on. As anyone who has gone through a divorce will tell you, staying married might have been the

easier route. We will not detail the process, as by the Rules of Engagement we must at present keep from interfering

with that process. However, HAARP has been put forth by humans wishing the populace to have a palatable

explanation for various underground phenomena, and since those in the Service-to-Self had nothing to do with the

HAARP campaign we can tell you about it.

Because the rumors spreading about put aliens in control of underground activities, the anxiety level of the populace

was increased. As with most alien/human activity, humans want to believe they are in charge, as indeed they are. But

some of the rumors put forth by humans wanting the populace to keep aliens at arms length had given a distinctly

opposite impression - human body parts floating in vats and the like. MJ12, as with other arms of the government,

does not always work as a unit, and has at times pulled in different directions. This was one such instance. To correct

the misimpression, MJ12 cooked up the HAARP mystique. Since activities in association with Service-to-Self aliens

included strange low frequency sounds, HAARP took on that aspect. Since aliens had been known to create blackouts

and MJ12 wanted the illusion of a human hand at the switch should this ever happen again, HAARP took on this

aspect also.

HAARP does not exist, but as secret programs can not be proved or disproved, this issue will never be settled. Since

the public has given credence to HAARP, it is likely to take on extra baggage, becoming, on paper anyway, a larger

program. But like the Wizard of Oz, it is not at all what it seems.

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ZetaTalk: Admiral Byrd

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ZetaTalk: Admiral Byrd

Note: written on Dec 15, 1995

Admiral Byrd, now dead, cannot refute any of the stories being spread about extraneous activities during his trips to

the South Pole. The famous story about his widow having a sudden change of heart and pulling a letter from his

coffin, handing this to his grandson, is now firmly in UFOlogy lore. Admiral Byrd did not have contact with space

ships or trips to underground cities, but disproving the proposition is unlikely to happen. Any change of heart on the

part of family members is likely to be interpreted as dithering, as the widow already indicated dithering on the letter.

We are to assume that she wanted the secret to go to the grave with him, and dithered at the last minute. If she was

carrying out the Admiral's wishes, the letter would have been destroyed. If it was her decision to destroy the letter,

contrary to his wishes, she would have destroyed it. The scenario shows dithering, presumably on everyone's part.

Therefore, this is a safe story, as the proposition can not be disproved. Like the MJ12 papers, a good forgery, the log

might be examined but would be inconclusive in either direction. Safe.

Given that, why would someone want to concoct such a story, and go to the extent of enlisting family members of a

famous man? Where the Men In Black do indeed live secretly in underground caverns on the Earth's crust, there are no

other cultures living in such a manner. Like the fantasy in 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea, the concept of living in

bubble cities under the ocean or warm and well lighted caverns intrigues humans as this is an expansion of their living

space. Humans trudging through rain and snow, picking up after tornadoes and hurricanes, and dealing with skin

cancer find relief in this fantasy. However, in the context of the alien presence, the intrigue goes beyond this diversion.

Humans hearing threats of a mass landing, which we have explained would not be allowed to occur, have their

anxieties lessened by such stories of secret cultures already on the Earth. Heck, why worry, they're already here! With

a sign of relief, the populace is supposed to come to the realization that cohabitation has not harmed them to date, so

there is no need to worry. An elaborate tranquilizer.

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ZetaTalk: President Kennedy

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ZetaTalk: President Kennedy

Note: written on Nov 15, 1996

President John F. Kennedy was killed under orders of MJ12 as he was threatening to tell the American public the truth

about Roswell. JFK was of the opinion that the public would accept the fact of the alien presence without undue panic,

but in those days MJ12 was still affronted with the personalities and actions of the Service-to-Self aliens that the CIA,

as an arm of MJ12, continually made alliances with. JFK believed in the strength of the human spirit, in its ability to

sort things out, and in any case felt the public had the right to know what they were facing. The CIA wanted the

knowledge they hoped to get from the Service-to-Self aliens who were playing them along, and they wanted this

knowledge for themselves and themselves only. Thus, they used their influence with MJ12, which in those days was

considerable, to press for JFK's assassination, which they were allowed to implement when the order was finally given.

MJ12 has recently released us from our agreement to remain silent on the Kennedy assassination. This agreement to

remain silent covered certain matters involving the Secret Government and the alien presence. Should humans be

incensed by this, that we knew something they desired to know but would not share the information, they should

contemplate what life might be like without our having an agreement with the government. In this situation, only the

Service-to-Self aliens would be communicating, having as you say the inside track. Such was the situation when we

first encountered your government, which had been vastly misinformed and was engaged in all manner of harmful

practices under the influence of the Service-to-Self crowd. This has now turned around, but we are honorable in our

agreements, and a promise made was to be a promise kept.

The JFK incident is one which hardened and increased the determination to keep elected officials in the dark as much

as possible about the existence and activities of MJ12. Given that the US is a democracy and could potentially elect a

dark horse written in on the ballot, such stringent rules about non-disclosure kept elected officials from the danger of

being killed. Prior to JFK, presidents and other elected officials were already being kept in the dark, a decision made

by an exiting president who did not want a rival political party granted such knowledge. JFK learned what he did due

to leaks, shared this with a girl friend long known to be so reliant on sedatives that she could be expected to murmur

forth this information with the next man who shared her pillow, and argued incessantly with MJ12 representatives who

came to visit him under other pretenses.

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ZetaTalk: John, Jr.

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ZetaTalk: John, Jr.

Note: written on Aug 15, 1999

The unfortunate accident that plunged John, Jr. into the waves below was indeed not an accident in the normal sense.

The small private plane faltered, plunging several thousand feet in seconds - sure death as those who arranged this

accident knew would occur. The impact of a rapidly dropping plane shatters the plane, destroying mechanical evidence

which would be the only clue to what actually had occurred. Why was John, Jr. targeted, when he was just a small

boy, surely out of the loop, when his father’s suspicious death occurred?

The family talks, behind closed doors, the elders passing information down to younger members now and then. This

younger Kennedy was noted for a certain rebelliousness, being unconventional and adventurous, and these traits

doomed him. Those responsible for his father's death watch closely lest the secrets they have kept from the public leak

out, and they surround the living Kennedys with spies who have infiltrated the households and families of the living

Kennedys. Those who recently shared their knowledge with John, Jr. are living with a special grief, knowing they in

essence caused his death, as such information was unlikely to rest easy in the hands of an offended and affectionate

son.

What secrets were revealed to him, outside of what the public already has pieced together? Names and titles of those

still living who were responsible for the death of President Kennedy, information that would allow researchers to find

and link the missing pieces of the puzzle. These individuals would not be suspected, and thus the puzzle has remained

fractured, the finger of guilt pointing always in the wrong direction! Thus, should the anger of the Kennedy's continue,

unabated, the public can expect more such unfortunate accidents.

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ZetaTalk: Marilyn Monroe

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ZetaTalk: Marilyn Monroe

Note: written on Nov 15, 1996

Marilyn Monroe's death is attributed to her awareness of the alien presence, and specifically to her knowledge of this

that President Kennedy relayed to her. It is rumored that the CIA had her killed because of her mouth. This rumor is

true. Drug overdose is a painless and quiet way to go, and in one given to relying on the temporary comfort that

sedatives can bring, raises little suspicion.

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ZetaTalk: Admiral Forestall

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ZetaTalk: Admiral Forestall

Note: written on Nov 15, 1996

Admiral Forestall is rumored to have been killed by the CIA for his increasing tendency to speak loudly and openly

about the alien presence and the governments arrangements with various alien groups. The rumor is true. Forestall was

killed during an era when the CIA reigned supreme in formal meetings with alien groups. This is no longer the case,

and is in fact so opposite from the case that the CIA is almost a nonentity in present alien agreements. However, their

brutal hand can be seen in the treatment your populace has received during the early decades of the Secret

Government, and up until the recent past in fact.

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ZetaTalk: Harrintgon

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ZetaTalk: Harrington

Note: written on Jan 15, 2002

A favored method of assassination by the CIA is by disease. They prefer this over what might be termed a heart attack

or stroke as it is less suspicious. The added advantage is that those in the know, who are aware of the subject's

propensities and intent, are allowed to see suffering. Robert Harrington's activities prior to his death were not

altogether accurately reported, as he was indeed planning to sight and alert mankind to the approach of Planet X.

Seeing his suffering and what was an obvious, to them, assassination infection, his cohorts sang whatever tune the CIA

wanted. These infections can be seen in some CSETI individuals, in recent years, who were implanted with cancer

also, and the brain tumor a Clinton campaign manager suffered from. The horror is pointed to by those who would

silence others. The rumored infection of Art Bell's son by AIDS no exception. Thus, those who claim that the truth has

no enemies, and this suppression could not be occurring, are free to make these statements, as modern science

supposedly does not know how to infect with these elements. Yet cancer metastasizes and grows in places not its

original host. Why is this means then so strange? What lab has proved this not possible? It is, and is a regular bullet in

the CIA's arsenal.

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ZetaTalk: Silencing Methods

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ZetaTalk: Silencing Methods

Note: written on Jun 15, 1997

Individuals in government service who become aware of MJ12 as more than a rumor are of course sworn to silence. In

most cases, the motivation to cooperate with the edict is membership in MJ12, which grants MJ12 the right to kill the

errant member should they get loose lips. Individuals being initiated into MJ12 membership sign papers granting MJ12

that right, but most think of this as a formality, an indication of the seriousness of the subject, and expect to have

endless warnings and discussions long before any such action would be taken. In fact, what occurs when the issue

come up is a quick trial and execution, as delays and warnings are what allow leaks to occur and preventing this from

occurring is the point of the death sentence clause.

Even during a time when deliberate leaks about the existence and identify of MJ12 are on the increase, uncontrolled

and unexpected leaks are still alarming to the leadership of MJ12. These are in the main military men, who joined the

military and rose in the ranks precisely because of their need for tight control, so loose lips not intended to be loose

are invariably alarming. The MJ12 board is in fact two boards. One is composed primarily of military intel bureaucrats

at fairly high levels. Not all of them. Not necessarily the highest. They slip away for meetings and come back, and

people think they spent a long time in the bathroom. That’s how carefully it is done. The meetings are not held in any

kind of a place where cars drive up. They are often times held in cow barns, very out of the way so that they are never

seen. They ride to and from by space ship and no one is the wiser. The locations change constantly.

Prior to issuing a death sentence, the guilty party is always brought in for questioning, an almost instant arrangement

due to the travel service we provide to MJ12, which comes complete with our ability to cloak the movements of our

ships and the activities of the passengers while on an official MJ12 trip. Once guilt or evidence of deliberate intentions

is ascertained, often by injecting the subject with truth serum, sentence is rapidly carried out. Because they have many

controls and are very strict in their rules, they come to their decisions quickly. There are no appeals. If someone is to

be executed, it is carried out very rapidly and the individual has no warning. Assassinations are thus done very

conveniently, but if it were not for our travel service, the CIA and the like are very expert at slipping a needle into an

arm pit to fake a heart attack, or at using drugs that dissipate and don’t show up in the blood stream.

When a prominent individual is silenced, the death is carefully orchestrated to appear as an accident or suicide. If

intense public scrutiny is expected, the body in involved in an accident that none would question, such as in the

airplane crash that killed Clinton’s Secretary of Transportation Ron Brown. The cause of death is obvious, so the body

is not examined in detail. Where the individual is living a quiet life, a car accident or perhaps a sporting accident, as in

the death of former CIA director William Colby, might be involved. Other options include a simulated heart attack, via

a needle inserted through the armpit where puncture wounds would not be discovered, or a simulated stroke - both

caused by drugs injected and rapidly disappearing from the blood stream, undetectable upon autopsy.

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ZetaTalk: Cooperation

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ZetaTalk: Cooperation

Note: written on Apr 15, 1999

Most people who cooperate with the government are not doing because they all sat down in a smoke filled room,

shared a drink, and nailed down on the board exactly who's going to do what. The process is not at all like that. The

private citizen is presented with an opportunity, with a serious person who comes and suggests that perhaps they might

do this or that, is flashing credentials, is a most impressive person, intelligent, well groomed, and relays the message

that it's necessary to downplay panic, to distract the populace, to counter something else that has gone wrong, and is

always dressed in a way that the person feels that they are doing the right thing by cooperating with people who are

like parents, looking out for society at large. People can be led to do the most outrageous acts with this kind of

approach. They may have a little uneasiness about it, as they have no way of determining whether they are being told

the truth., but they usually cooperate because they have a lack of information, and to go with the flow and do what

they've been requested to do is the most logical thing, even though their intuition may be telling them otherwise.

Most of the frauds that are being put out to distract the populace have built in self-destruct mechanisms. Build-in

discrediting, so that the populace is told a falsehood, but at the same time they're told that it is a falsehood, and

discussions go in both ways. The CIA is famous for this, running people forth with a message and then cutting them

off at the knees. Most often the people they use understand that this will be done to them, they understand that's it's

necessary because the message that's going to be given will be upsetting and that by cutting them off at the knees and

humiliating them, the populace will conclude it was just a hoax or a falsehood. Nevertheless, the message has been

gotten out.

An example of this is the subliminal message in the false story about a capsule trailing Hale-Bopp. What were they

talking about? Some sort of a virus that's going to come in a capsule and drop on Africa and destroy the crops. Are we

not going to have crop shortages? Of course we are. People are being told to think about the potential of a crop

shortage. Think about the potential of illnesses running rampant with an inability to stop this process. Maybe it's not

even terrorism, but common illnesses like sewage that gets into the drinking water. People die from cholera by the

thousands after certain earthquakes where this occurs, and this is going to be a rampant situation in your future. The

secret government is trying to make the populace think to some degree, and they have allies in this who are willing to

put out a message and then be willing to be ridiculed.

Many times these individuals do not know they're going to be ridiculed. They're in fact told they're going to be

supported, and when they're trashed it's quiet a bit of a shock. They're also told not to complain and whine too loudly

to the public. Then these individuals see the harsh side of the hand that they've been dealing with, now threatening to

kill them, to main them, to main their loved ones or destroy their reputation. One only has to look to Bob Lazar to see

what can be done. Evidence can be trumped up, manufactured, and prosecutors lined up with a glare pointed toward

the individual. It's pretty scary. So most people just take their drumming and walk off and lick their wounds and don't

say much.

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ZetaTalk: Snooping on Contactees

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ZetaTalk: Snooping on Contactees

Note: written on May 15, 1996

As a part of our agreement with MJ12, we originally informed them of the contactee status of US citizens. It soon

became apparent that this information was being misused by the CIA arm of the secret government, and we ceased this

practice, altering our agreement. This was in place during the first two decades of our agreement with MJ12, the fifties

and sixties, more or less. Those in the Service-to-Self orientation were also asked to keep the government informed,

but as they don't keep their word the list of contactees from these aliens not only lacked their true contacts, it listed

citizens who had never been contacted. Thus many were harassed by the CIA during those decades, pointlessly. We do

report to MJ12 when we are taking a contactee elsewhere in the Universe, checking the contactee out and back in, in a

formal manner similar to US Customs. As this is seldom done, few contactees have been affected by this routine.

As a result of discovering that Service-to-Self aliens were not reporting their true contacts, and our eventual refusal to

list contactees at all, the CIA set up their own intelligence operations. In those days contactees were not aware of each

other, so locating them was done by scanning for profiles. If a citizen indicated an interest in UFO subjects they were

put on the list and subsequently watched through phone tapping or other surveillance. Nowadays this type of snooping

and searching for contactees is done primarily in contactee support groups, which are infiltrated by CIA agents

pretending to be contactees. As the majority of humans asserting contactee status are making it all up, and as the vast

majority of humans interested in UFOlogy don't have contactee status, this is all an exercise in frustration for the CIA,

and lately this activity has fallen out of favor. What's the point? They have a list of suspected contactees which is

almost entirely incorrect, and the true contactees are unknown to them. Add to that the burgeoning list of contactees as

the Awakening progresses and the budget cutbacks the CIA is experiencing, and one can see why the program has

little backing any more.

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ZetaTalk: School Surveillance

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ZetaTalk: School Surveillance

Note: written on Jul 15, 1996

It comes as no surprise to humans that government agents are posing as college students, given the unrest on campuses

that developed during the Vietnam war era, or that government agents are even posing as high school students, given

the drug peddling that is done by pushers who wish to addict their customers at a young and tender age. But the

possibility of surveillance in the primary grades seems remote. Since no adult could pass as a child, an agent would

have to be a teacher or administrator. Such surveillance does occur, a little known and rarely suspected fact, but

through indirect rather than direct means. Youngsters are measured in many ways beyond the standard IQ and

achievement tests. Report cards, while confidential to the parents and school administrators, are within the reach of

government agents, with the parents and child none the wiser.

Given that a child could not conduct a criminal enterprise or be recruited to assist the government until their late teens,

what is the point of this scrutiny?

Since the crash at Roswell proved that the alien presence was real, the government has been uneasy about possible

infiltration. Could not aliens capable of disguising their ships disguise themselves in human society? Well, of course

this can and does occur on many levels, from a contactee given a screen memory to disguise the fact that they have

been conversing with an alien to an alien walking in full view through a crowd where all who see him think they have

seen another human. Beyond physical infiltration, spiritual infiltration occurs when infants are born as Star Children or

walk-ins occur. It was knowledge of the hybrid program, the possibility of very human looking hybrids with alien

qualities, that drove surveillance of the young, however, as this was seen as a potential for a super-human race with

mixed allegiances, outside of the government's control.

Control oriented members of the secret government determined to find and tag them young, before such youngsters

might become sophisticated enough to disguise themselves. Such traits as an exceptionally high IQ or remarkable

athletic ability brought the youngster into steady monitoring, as well as any type of precocious abilities that could be

termed super-human. A child who could see auras, or hear notes beyond the normal range, or displayed telepathic

abilities, or had a remarkable memory for long numbers, or who mastered several languages at an early age - any of

these exceptional abilities could bring a child under scrutiny.

This program is little known because it never went beyond peeping. No patterns of exceptional adulthood emerged

from these children, nor did the adults differ from the norm in any manner. High IQ youngsters developed as they had

in the past; athletic youngsters took advantage of their abilities as they had in the past; and those with precocious

musical ability were pressed by their parents into performing, as they had in the past. The surveillance program

essentially shriveled and died, though it was never formally closed, as is often the case with bureaucracies.

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ZetaTalk: Customs

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ZetaTalk: Customs

Note: written on Sep 15, 1995

Nancy accompanied her three children during an interview, where having passed the first phase they were taken to the

later phase of the interview process elsewhere in the Universe. As was our practice at that time, in accordance with our

agreement with MJ12, they were notified and allowed to monitor the exit and entry. Nancy will tell you the story in her

own words.

Begin Nancy's Hypnotic Recall

I'm trying to remember the circumstances of when we bought the tent and did some camping. I think I bought a tent

that had a blue bottom. The top was a dark green canvas. It had a blue plastic bottom. I remember how we folded it up,

and it would always be blue. It was a big tent. It was on sale, and then we got some sleeping bags. I know I took the

kids quite frequently not just in the summer but in the spring and the fall also, as long as it wasn't snowing. We'd go

for the weekend and set up the tent, and when it was in the spring or the fall there would hardly be anybody else in the

campground. Maybe we'd even have the campground to ourselves. Sometimes there'd just be one more tent down the

road, and of course there wasn't any way for someone to get hold of us because there was no telephone and the

relatives in the area weren't the type to come over and look us up anyway, they weren't that close to us. I'd make a fire.

I'd get some firewood and make a fire and cook supper. And if it wasn't in the middle of summer when the

campgrounds were full, the kids would just run down the road or go off into the woods or to the lake, which had a

small beach there.

It wasn't that we had any planned activities. The idea was to just get out where they could run around in the woods.

And in the morning I would make coffee. Everyone was still sleeping and I would go for a walk. Along the lake they

had a path that was paved through the rocks, and I'd go see the birds and the like. Very early, like dawn. We'd have a

fire at night. We'd roast some marshmallows or whatever, but generally we'd go to bed about dusk. Everybody had to

set up their sleeping bags ahead of time, before the light went down. We did have a Coleman Lantern, and I would

light the lantern. When we would go to bed, we'd all get in the tent and I'd put the lantern on the outside of the tent

since it would suck oxygen otherwise, create carbon monoxide poisoning. Then after everybody had changed clothes

and tucked under I would reach out of the tent and turn down the Coleman Lantern. Then it would be pitch dark, and

I'd zip everything up and we'd settle in for the night. So I'm trying to think if there was ever a time when we were all

camping, and we'd settled in for the night, if there was ever a time when I was with my children and there was any

kind of an encounter.

Well, I think I'm seeing something. It's dark out and I'm at the tent door. I'm seeing two or three of these guys coming

up through the shadows, coming up through the dusk toward the tent. They've very, very skinny gray bodies, and it

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looks like they're walking up a slight incline to where the tent is. The tent door is facing down the incline. They seem

in that position, like they're leaning forward a little bit, coming up the incline. I think one of them comes in the tent,

and he's got his finger to his mouth, saying, "Shush," that kind of thing, like a motion, like, "Don't say anything." I think they put their hands on top of the kids heads, and this wakes them up but they're walking up semi-sleepy. They

don't wake up with a start. They don't act alarmed. They're doing this shush motion again. They're motioning to come

on. We all have our little pajamas on. I don't think it's that cold out, because the door to the tent flap is back so that we

could get air coming through. We all trip out, sort of single file. One of the guys is leading in front, and then the kids

and I after him, and the last two bring up the rear. We walk down the hill in the direction that they came from, down to

the left, which goes into the woods down into a little clearing.

They have a ship that's not a 12 footer job, it's more 25 foot, the next size up. When we get there [oldest] kind of looks

back at me. I put my hand on her shoulder, indicating it's OK, and we just continue to go up into the ship and sit

down. They seem to have semicircular seating. It's smooth, so that it's like a curved bench, and it has little rounded

places for each individual ass. We sit down, and I feel a motion. [Youngest] is looking up at me, but I'm not giving any

facial expression of alarm. [Between] seems to be more curious. She's just watching what they're doing. They're across

the room over there, at some sort of controls. I don't seem to be asking any questions but they don't seem to be offering

any kind of agenda either, other than, "Shush," and, "Follow me." That's about it. Now it feels like we're arriving somewhere. I have that feeling like when a bus brakes, the motion that you were experiencing before is changing. It

seems like all three of them are gathered out in this room, like we're going to open the door and go down. One of them

reaches over and takes me by the hand and so we all latch up, and we all walk like so many elephants, trunk to tail. I

think [youngest] is reaching back, he wants a hand from one of the other guys. He's just little. We walk out and we're

all in a row. Everybody's holding hands in a line, tripping along in our pajamas.

It's a rocky area, and desolate. No street lights or anything like that. It seems to be a desert area. It's not paved. If

anything it's a little sandy. I don't feel that the ground is full of briars or branches or things like that. It's more sandy,

but there's big, big rocks behind, not any mountains, but chunky rocks and sand. Very, very dark. I don't hear any

sound of water, lapping motions or anything like that. Cool sand. It's very dark. Doesn't seem to be a moon-lit night. I

think the instruction is to sit down in the sand. I think there's something coming, a large ship, something with lights on

underneath coming down. We've got our heads turned, and we're looking. It has different colored lights on the bottom,

not any one color, maybe more white than anything.

I keep wanting to say, that people in uniforms come out, but that doesn't make sense because these people don't wear

uniforms. I mean, they all look like they have these little gray bodies, unless they're suits but you can't tell. It almost

seems like a tan, or moving toward light brownish kind of uniform. Half a dozen people, and they come out, sort of

two abreast, but not in a formal kind of structure. A little informal. They move around like they're talking to each

other. They don't seem to have any kind of gold braid on or anything like that, but maybe some kind of insignia to

bespeak officialdom. I even want to say that these are people, that there are some people here, Homo Sapiens, three or

four of them in these uniforms. This is a twist. They're talking to each other and they seem to have flashlights in their

hands and they're walking over toward us, talking to each other. Not arguing exactly, but talking, maybe more in a

heated manner. They're not passive blobs. Discussing something, possibly arguing, it's hard to tell. One of them says,

"Oh, here they are," and the other one says, "So, what do we say to them?" The first one says, "Just follow

instructions." Hah!

"How do you do, Ms. [Nancy]," one of them says to me, "This is Lieutenant," oh, I don't catch the name, introducing the person next to him. "We're from MJ12." I'm trying to think if they're saying, "We requested this meeting" or "We were requested." I think they're saying, "We were requested to meet with you and explain a few things. This is

difficult, and I know this seems odd, but I was told you would understand. We want you to come with us. Don't be

alarmed." I'm saying something like, "It's OK." They say, "Bring the kids," or something like that. He's motioning to the kids. So now we're walking toward the larger ship, all sort of in a clump instead of hand-to-hand. [Oldest] and

[youngest] don't look at me for reassurance because apparently having people there makes them feel a little less

irritable, I think. We all go up into the large ship. I think it has a moving stairwell. It's enough for one or two people

abreast, rather than a ramp or staircase. When we get to the top of the stairwell there's just a corridor in front of us.

White, and lit, and we go down the corridor. I turn to the right at the end of that corridor, and into a room that has a

conference table or something like that.

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There's half a dozen of these guys in their little gray, skinny bodies. But these look like their bodies are a little thicker.

Maybe they're just bigger. Their heads are a little heftier, so they're not as small as the crew that came to get us. Now

the conversation has changed from verbal to mental activity. There seems to be a lot of mental charge in the air. We all

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