sit down in chairs at one end of the table, like in a semi-circle, the four of us. They're in a semi-circle on the other

side, maybe six of them, and the Homo Sapiens have disappeared, they didn't come in. I think I'm asking them, "What

do you want?" They say, "We want to interrogate you," or something like that. I'm saying, "Have at it." But they say,

"About your children, which ones we'll chose." I'm saying, "What do you base your choice on?" And they say, "Many things." I'm shifting back in my chair, leaning to the background, to let the kids talk, since that's what they want to do,

talk to the kids. There's three little faces, looking out across the table. I'm not sure what kind of conversations are going

on, maybe that's because they're not directed at me, but maybe I pick up side perceptions. What do they do with their

time. What they want. What they miss.

He's asking them if they'd like to, "Take a ride in the ship and go and see the Universe." I don't think anybody knows

how to respond. I think I hear [youngest] say, "I would." I hear engines humming, that kind of a sensation. Somebody

comes and says, "Come with me," and we go out the door, the way we came in. We go down the corridor the way we

came in, but this time we go to another room and sit down in some sort of a chair with a thing that goes over our

heads, like a helmet, an easy chair kind of thing with little arm rests. Everyone sits down, with this thing over our

heads, and it seems like I black out. I'm sleeping or something. The next thing I'm aware of is my toes moving around,

and my fingers. It's still black. My eyes are closed or the room is black. Then it comes into view, fading back in. I'm in

the same room but the kids are missing and my helmet's back. I'm looking around to see where everybody is, and

somebody sticks his head in the door, kind of leans in the door. I get up, not that I've been summoned or anything, I'm

kind of curious. I'm looking around. It's kind of obvious that I'm looking around for where everybody is. I'm walking

slowly toward him, checking around, and then the three kids walk back in the room. [Oldest] says, "Hi, mom." It looks

like she's had a good time. [Between] is more quiet and serious. [Youngest] just has a bland look on his face, slightly

curious. I'm saying, "Where are we?" [Oldest] says, "A neat place." [Between] says, "But they don't have any

swimming pools."

Then we go into the next room, and they have some sort of a buffet set up, but this buffet is very strange because it's

like a pile of vegetables or fruit combinations. I don't recognize anything, and you can take some of that in your hand

and eat it if you want. There's no dishes or eating utensils. I don't recognize any of it. It has a very bland taste,

whatever it is, but it's edible. I try a piece or two. Someone says, "We're going to take you home now, so you have to

go back to sleep." So we all go back in and we put our little helmets on and sit in our chairs. We all go back to sleep,

put our helmets on. Everything blacks out. The next thing I'm aware of is my stomach muscles feeling fatigued.

Instead of moving my hands and feet around I feel a sense of fatigue in my stomach muscles. I'm pushing the helmet

back. This time the three kids are there. Two or three guys are saying, "Good-by," and one of them is saying, "Come

this way." We walk back down the corridor. I don't think we're going down the moving stairway, I think it's like an

elevator drops down to the ground. We walk over to a little ship this time, one of those 12 footer kind, and sit on the

bench and take off. This time we were on concrete, not on sand.

We get dropped off right in front of our tent, more or less. It's dead of night. We go back in the tent and crawl in our

sleeping bags and settle down. But I do remember there was one time we went camping and when people asked me

what we did I was hard pressed to describe what we did, over the weekend. We hadn't gone to see horses or gone

swimming or climbed around the bluffs - we hadn't done anything in particular. So it was different, because normally

we would do some sort of activity to break up the weekend, but we didn't seem to have much to say.

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ZetaTalk: Mind Control

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ZetaTalk: Mind Control

Note: written on May 15, 1996

The dream of all controlling individuals, a category which includes the military hierarchy, is to create virtual robots

out of the population at the flip of a switch. Riot control, preventing resistance, silencing dissent, ensuring complete

adherence to orders or edicts - such are the heady goals of those who are control oriented. Humans use drugs, physical

restraints, and threats and bribes to gain these ends, but none of these methods are fail-safe. In human-to-human

encounters no one is paralyzed unless drugs or physical restraints are used, and likewise leaving a memory only in the

subconscious where it can act like a post-hypnotic suggestion is achievable only by battering and splintering the

conscious through trauma and drugs. The secret government, which in the early days was heavily influenced by the

CIA, longed to master what they considered to be mind control techniques.

In fact, as we have stated, a human cannot be given a hypnotic suggestion they are not in accordance with, and during

visitations the human is in control and can terminate contact at any time simply by willing it to be so. Even the

paralyzed state, which makes use of an old portion of the human brain that is akin to a possum's brain, can be broken

at will by the human. Nevertheless, the CIA did a considerable amount of casting about, trying to discover how aliens

were able to paralyze humans and plant what they assumed to be post hypnotic suggestions. Needless to say, they did

not succeed, but their fervor and rumors of this activity inspired such stories as the Manchurian Candidate, where

humans, while unaware, are time bombs waiting to become absolute robots behaving in a preprogrammed manner.

This is all so far from what is possible as to be positively silly.

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ZetaTalk: Remote Viewing

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ZetaTalk: Remote Viewing

Note: written on Oct 15, 1996

Lest anyone be confused, what is termed remote viewing is simply telepathy, a natural and fairly common occurrence

among mankind and the animals who call the Earth their home. Telepathy is intrinsic to life, but only about 10% of the

human populace has enough native capacity to take note of it. Those with native capacity soon learn that they can

anticipate phone calls from friends, anticipate and guard against personal attacks, and seem to intuitively understand

what their loved ones need and want. The government has never failed to use telepathy to accomplish whatever they

might consider their ends, but after observing the seamless way aliens could work together, without a word spoken, the

issue got hot. As MJ12 was in those days heavily dominated by the CIA, they took up the topic and infected the goals

of the operation with their own twists.

Remote viewing under the CIA's auspices was not done to simply garner intelligence on legitimate government

security concerns, it was used to invade privacy, secure blackmail material, assist break-ins and thefts, amuse agents

who wanted to snoop for personal reasons, and keep tabs on rival government agencies. When the operation failed to

curtail enemy actions due to a complete lack of awareness of enemy plans and failure to predict, it ostensibly was shut

down. As with all bureaucracy enclaves, it sought to perpetuate itself by reinventing its goals. Remote viewing would

become a handy disinformation tool, impressing the public with what might seem to be an ability to read minds, and

thereafter spreading disinformation as valid facts garnered through telepathy. To ensure a gullible public will believe,

the remote viewing track record is supported by information supplied by the CIA.

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ZetaTalk: Gelatin Rain

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Note: written on Jun 15, 1997

A theme in movies about space travel, and in particular about visitors from outer space, is the dangerous microbe that

arrives, against which there is no human immunity. For those who wish the populace to keep aliens at arms length, this

seems a perfect scare tactic. To test the response, both to the physical reaction to various substances that were

candidates for such scare tactics and of the psychological reaction to such substances arriving from the sky, several

small and isolated towns were selected at random as guinea pigs. As it was to be clear that the infecting substance

came from outer space, it was dropped in a rather dramatic fashion from above, the result of a sky shot that burst and

splattered when it reached a certain altitude. CIA plants in the town, postured as transients or lurking in bushes with

listening devices, watched and recorded the resulting reactions.

To the dismay of the cooks, the brew did not result in the panic and fear of the unknown that was expected. To the

contrary, the townsfolk in all the towns so subjected to this experiment refused to do anything but scrutinize the gelatin

substance that was dropped on them from the sky. They hired scientists, and elicited free examinations, and probed and

questioned. As with most scams, they only succeed when such scrutiny is prevented, as inevitably there is evidence

that points to the truth. In order to infect humans, germs of some sort that grow in human tissue had to be involved,

and thus human tissue to support these germs until they could reach a new host were required. Thus, the alien glop

proved to have human cells present, a dead giveaway to the origin of the infecting gelatin. And since the reaction of

the public was so alarming, these particular experiments are not likely to be repeated.

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ZetaTalk: Black Helicopters

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ZetaTalk: Black Helicopters

Note: written on Jan 15, 1996

Reports of black helicopters harassing and following UFOlogists and contactees and associated with mutilations are so

frequent and numerous as to be considered a fact, even by skeptics. Everyone expects them to be an arm of the

government, and would be shocked to learn that their ownership and activities are not under government control.

Private members of the establishment have funded and run this enterprise, with the goal of maintaining the status quo.

Consider how the activities of the black helicopters and MJ12 differ.

Where MJ12 wants the world to become aware of its past and present, as part of the Awakening process, it has

never flagrantly displayed physical evidence of its existence. Why would they have done that over the past years

when a prime concern was to deny their existence? Clearly by being noisy, flashy, and lingering about in public

view, the black helicopters are not the arm of a government group concerned with secrecy.

Mutilations, not ever an activity of MJ12, have an association with black helicopters, which are frequently seen

in the vicinity during and after a mutilation. Again, as mutilations are by design noticeable, leaving large

carcasses mangled in ways impossible for anyone to ignore, this would not be something a secret government

arm would engage in.

The black helicopters consistently harass contactees who are engaged in communication roles, giving the

message that they should fall silent. Where this was the stance that MJ12 assumed in the past, the past few years

have found them encouraging awareness of the alien presence. It is an open secret that the movie ET was

initiated by MJ12. Why would MJ12 work at cross purposes to itself?

The black helicopters are housed at private facilities, the perfect cover. A barn, a warehouse, or a hollow dirt mound

work as well as a vacant hangar at a private landing strip. Helicopters, of course, need only a spot to land upon, and

can be draped with camouflage cloth or have collapsible walls of a shack or garage erected around it once landed. In a

sheltered and isolated spot, such activity goes unnoticed, with the exit and return of the chopper accomplished in

minutes. How does this enterprise learn who the contactees or UFOlogists are, and of their schedules and routes?

Consider for a moment the number of ex-government agents, of all flavors, who are expert at tapping phones and at

effective surveillance and, in particular, at infiltrating groups such as contactee support groups. Establishment groups

who can afford fleets of sleek choppers can certainly lure ex-CIA members into their employ. And the new employer

is not asking them to do anything they haven't already been doing - just a new pair of shoes.

Why hasn't a private operation like this been exposed, by either the government, the media, or private individuals?

Money buys silence, and where money is not effective, accidents are arranged. Ranchers who have complained about

helicopters flying over their land have quickly been silenced, by one means or another. Agents trained in espionage are

not sloppy, know not to leave a trail, and can anticipate what steps any law enforcement agency might take. They are

not prosecuted by the federal government because they can blackmail the prosecutor, being aware of the existence and

operation of MJ12. Squeeze us and secrets you don't want revealed may come out, is the threat, so an uneasy staring

contest has ensued, with neither party blinking. In addition, a number of the perpetrators, captains of industry, are

members of the larger MJ12, and the good-old-boy system is alive and well.

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ZetaTalk: Autopsy Tapes

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ZetaTalk: Autopsy Tapes

Note: written on Sep 15, 1995

The Roswell film is a clever fake, done not by the CIA but by a commercial group hired by those in the government

popularly known as MJ12, and done, not surprisingly, on good old USA soil. What was its intent? Of course it was to

acclimate the public to the alien presence, the sight of alien bodies, the thought that humans and aliens have contact,

the image of their government in contact - but reassuringly with the impression that humans have the upper hand. How

could it not be so, when alien bodies are being cut apart by humans in white coats. And for those too frightened by this

thought, whose hearts are beating, blood pressure rising, anxieties distracting them from the day's work - there are the

doubts about the authenticity of the film, which will soon be strengthened as more and more skeptics come forward

with Specifics. Ah, one can relax again, as it was just another fraud.

Will someone go to prison for having committed fraud? For what crime? Fraud must have monitory damages, and this

has none. Fraud must have some sort of damages, and none will be forthcoming. What would be the claim? I was

assured that aliens were real and then found they were not. Laughed right out of court. The perpetrator is expected to

raise his decibels along with the skeptics, and is doing so right on call. All part of the plan. Of course the cameraman's

story is hokum, and this is because the cameraman is hokum! As with Ray Santilli's story, the cameraman's story has

been carefully staged and the search for the cameraman just props on the stage to make the cameraman's story

somewhat credible. As we have stated, only one of four aliens survived, whom the government called EBE, and he

was unconscious when recovered. Autopsies were performed on the other bodies, piecemeal and over time, and are

still in fact being done on the frozen remains from time to time.

The body of the alien in the autopsy film, so human in appearance with few exceptions, was in fact a human. The

differences noted were in some cases natural, in some augmented by plastic surgery, and in some cases faked. The base

body was of a prepubescent girl who sickened and died in an institution for the retarded, and had long been a ward of

the state. Retardation was caused by water on the brain, a condition that creates an enlarged head. The large eye

sockets came with the package, but the eyes themselves were replaced by even larger orbs, the reason for the

unblinking appearance due to the eyelids being stretched and incapable of closing. This girl was essentially a vegetable

toward death, and was unable to consent or refuse treatment. Plastic surgery was performed in her last months to

remove her navel and nipples, but the occurrence of six fingers and toes, a common recessive gene, was already

present. This unfortunate youngster, abandoned essentially at birth and with multiple birth defects, had a physiological

tendency to retain fat disproportionately in her abdomen.

For those who say these are too many peculiarities to occur in unison, we will point out that defects in fact do most

often afflict the fetus in multiples. Genetic abnormalities most often result in spontaneous abortions, but where they do

not, the surviving infant is ill formed and usually limps through a short life. Visit your institutions and find out, should

you doubt. One problem triggers another, with heart, lungs, kidneys, brain, all malformed at once and the endocrine

and nutritional systems askew. As for the organs, never seen clearly while being removed, these were substituted while

all was a blur and in motion. How would it be that at an autopsy of such importance that a camera man would blur the

image? Does he not understand how to operate his camera? Was he not chosen for his expertise? And if not, if he was

inexperienced, why did he seem to have no learning curve in this regard?

All in all, however, we feel the autopsy film served its purpose, which was to set the populace to talking and thinking

about the alien presence. The arguments about the authenticity of the film are evenly weighed, pro and con, and this

causes the arguments to be all the more long lasting and heated. Just what the film makers wanted.

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ZetaTalk: Pseudo-Fiction

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ZetaTalk: Pseudo- Fiction

Note: written on Oct 15, 1995

The supposed discovery of the Cytherean Complex on Venus, as described in the book Nothing in This Book is True,

But It's Exactly The Way Things Are, is an example of a true story being reported in a fictional setting, much as the

movie ET describes many of the circumstances surrounding EBE after the Roswell incident. In both cases the setting

has been changed but the major character, theme, and significance to mankind are the same. ET and EBE both found

themselves unexpectedly in the hands of humans, communicated telepathically with a boy, were gentle and intelligent,

yet sickened and died in spite of government efforts.

The story of the Cytherean Complex is clearly fictional in the context of Venus, whose vast swirling cloud covers have

never been penetrated by human photographic equipment, but it rings quite true in the context of Mars, the true site of

such structures. Photographs of pyramids and a Sphinx like structure known as the Face on Mars have been a hot topic

in UFOlogy circles for a number of years, with the debate nowhere near ending. The failure of the recent Mars probe

to send back photos at the crucial moment only fueled the debate. Of course the cameras continued to run, the

audience just got more selective. Where the Cytherean Complex and the real structures on Mars are a parallel, likewise

the fictional Mental Health Committee has a counterpart in MJ12, the even dozen in both cases no accident. Thus, the

fiction's title, Nothing in This Book is True, But It's Exactly The Way Things Are, is telling you just how it is. Replace

the fictional components with the real components and let the truth sink in.

This vehicle, pseudo-fiction, has been quite deliberately used by the government on a number of occasions and will be

used just as often in the future. Why not simply tell the truth, show the real shots of the Roswell wreckage, the real

autopsy film, the real ET and Mars complex close-ups. Why not just confess about Alternative 3 rather than produce a

pseudo-fiction film in Britain? Why not just come clean on the Secret Government's activities rather than run the X-

Files series on TV? Why not expose the handiwork of the CIA in the past on development of the Ebola Virus rather

than just promote the movie Outbreak? The answer to this question lies in the human tendency to turn away from the

truth when it is upsetting but to absorb and process information when it is presented as fiction. In fact, given human

nature, more information can be disseminated if presented as fiction when at the same time there are hints that the story has a parallel in real life.

Pseudo-fiction may also be the only way a story will ever be told. What do you think the chances are of getting the

story of the Ebola Virus told? Would the US Government not be liable if they came clean on the CIA's past activities?

Is the US Government not currently dealing with a deficit that has most government workers concerned about their

future? Yes, yes, and because of this no, the story of the Ebola Virus will not be told. What do you think the chances

are of the real story on the structures on Mars getting into the headlines? Can your government setup housekeeping on

Mars the way some other man- faced creatures obviously did? Can the military assure you that they can protect you

from invasion from space? No, no, and because of this yes, your government will continue to talk up the Star Wars

and Space Station projects and pretend that they are at the very cutting edge of space technology, bar none.

You have a saying, truth is stranger than fiction. Believe it, and in the context of the alien presence you will have a

pretty good handle on the truth.

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ZetaTalk: X-Files

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ZetaTalk: X-Files

Note: written on Dec 15, 1995

The X-Files premise is that agencies such as the FBI and CIA encounter and investigate the paranormal, the

extraterrestrial, and keep files on such encounters. This is quite true, but they are not termed X-Files. This data goes by

many names, all designed to avoid drawing attention. The mazes within the intelligence agencies cause even their

leadership to get lost. Such files were in existence before the alien presence became a hot topic, as what is termed

paranormal, in the form of ghosts and poltergeist activity, has always been present. These files grew by a quantum

leap, in pace with the Awakening, about the time of the Roswell incident.

With the X-Files series the secret government hit pay dirt. The series has been wildly popular, in no small part because

the producer does not shy away from controversy - he embraces it. Thus, the series has been encouraged to be more

and more bold, as MJ12 wishes the public to adapt to the reality of the alien presence and their government's role in

this. Where at first the series flirted with abduction and human experimentation and only alluded to the cold hand of

the CIA in suppressing information, the series was encouraged to get graphic and to make the CIA the villains they

have, in truth, been. The secret government is multifaceted, and many parts did not participate in the brutality that the

CIA presumed that secrecy called for. They wish to be disassociated, and where the true story will in all likelihood

never be told, the X-Files is coming darn close to it.

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ZetaTalk: Information Agents

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ZetaTalk: Information Agents

Note: written on Sep 15, 1995

We are pleased to announce that your government, better known as MJ12, has stepped up the pace of informing the

populace. The policy of spreading information is now knocking out the former policy of disinformation, which was

hanging about loath to let go. Habits are hard to break, and any established policy always has its advocates, but rules

are rules and an order is an order.

Some new trends will become evident. We will still have the same old specialists, but they may be given to moments

of honesty about their former role, packaged well in humor so an element of doubt is thrown in, or they may become

born-again believers where formerly skeptics. The same old tactics will still be used, which is to assert independence

from each other while in actuality supporting each other. They will still attack mutual foes with the old one-two,

working in synchronicity with each other, but the foes will begin to change! Where many of the active disinformation

specialists were identified or at least suspect, only a fraction were so compromised. These tended to be the witty, well

educated, aggressive ones. Others, just as effective in affecting public opinion, were never suspected at all. And then

there are the multiple Internet screen names used by most, which allow one to even carry on an argument with oneself.

But we are not complaining! All this is for the good. A new term, information specialist. You heard it first here, in

ZetaTalk.

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ZetaTalk: Overt Agents

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ZetaTalk: Overt Agents

Note: written on Apr 15, 1996

Spy and counterspy tales are the delight of many who enjoy a convoluted plot, and in this regard UFOlogy has not

disappointed the populace. Everyone is accusing, or at least suspecting, everyone else of being a CIA agent, a

disinformation specialist, in the employ of special interests, or at a minimum conning a gullible public out of their

loose change. Beyond the heavy handed suppression that occurred in the past and, in truth, lingers today, what is it

about UFOlogy that makes it so susceptible to this type of intrigue?

Infiltration of UFO interest groups, contactee support groups, and funded studies does occur, as in the past the

government wanted certain discussions suppressed entirely and even in open times spin control is desired.

Competition for center stage is keen, and a time honored method for gutting the competition is to cast

aspersions.

The government wants to be seen as promoting, rather than suppressing the Awakening, and thus may

deliberately spread rumors about informative individuals, asserting they are government agents, in order to share

the spotlight and applause.

How to sort this all out? Don't bother. Concentrate on the information, not trying to discern the source, and judge the

worth of what is presented by how it fits into the whole, whether it has the ring of truth, and whether it has

contradictions or consistency throughout. Else you will be lost in spy and counterspy forever.

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ZetaTalk: The Falcon

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ZetaTalk: The Falcon

Note: written on Jun 15, 1997

Disinformation via dissemination of wrong information became the vehicle of choice when the CIA realized they could

not contain awareness and talk about the alien presence. Very influential during the early days of MJ12, the CIA was

allowed to direct and implement their disinformation scripts with scarcely any oversight. Thus, the early

disinformation campaigns contain hallmarks of the CIA - the message that all aliens are evil and should be avoided -so

that the CIA and their allies in the establishment could retain control of humans and human society.

CIA disinformation agents arranged to have themselves interviewed and televised, under the guise of being sincere

agents coming forward with information at great risk. Nothing could be further from the truth. The trappings of secrecy

- disguising the voice and face of the supposedly nervous agent - were not to protect the agent from retaliation by the

CIA but to protect his true identity from the public. The story line was filled with enough detail that would ring true

with the public to make the story line believable. After that it was all lies. The substance of the lies were that aliens can

mutilate humans and are abducting humans for consumption, as alien food. This is entirely false, as these men well

knew.

Aliens cannot do with humans what they will, as control is in the hands of the humans who give The Call. Human

mutilations were caused by the CIA and those whom they used as their tentacles, not by aliens. Vats of floating body

parts, placed in front of frightened contactees whom the CIA arranged to view this prop, are more indicative of the

mind set of the CIA members who arranged this fraud than anything aliens in fact do with humans. They maim humans

and treat them as throw-away garbage, where aliens in the Service-to-Self are required to use psychology for their

intimidation.

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ZetaTalk: Bill Cooper

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ZetaTalk: Bill Cooper

Note: written on Jul 15, 1995, prior to Bill Cooper's death in 2001.

Bill Cooper is legit. He is telling it as it is. In order to survive, and not be killed, he wraps himself in the persona of a

paranoid mental case. These elements are mixed together in his writings and lectures, so like the spices laced into soup,

they cannot be separated. Cooper found himself threatened early on, and was given warnings he could not dismiss. He

still bears the scars, as do more US citizens than the public is aware of. Who so physically injured him? His

government, the CIA, a group who is no longer empowered to act in this manner, we might hasten to add. No more

torture, physical injury, or death. At least these are the new rules. Were people tortured to death in the past?

Absolutely, but torture that leaves no marks, such as electric current to the point where systemic shock sets in, thus

death. Those with weak hearts or weak points in their blood vessels would also succumb, but their loved ones, who

discovered them dead, would learn nothing unusual from the autopsy results. Cause of death? Natural causes.

Bill Cooper is given information, frequently and repeatedly over time, from members of the Secret Government who

want the word out. This has been the official position toward Bill Cooper for some time, and we foresee no change

under the current arrangements. Why does he not drop the wacky stuff? He looks at his scars, and remembers. How

could he not, when he sees them daily in his bath? He is a supremely courageous man, but he's not stupid. He's leaving

his safeguards right where they are.

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ZetaTalk: John Lear

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ZetaTalk: John Lear

Note: written on Aug 15, 1996

John Lear has been wrongly suspected of being a CIA agent, due to the military background of his family. Bright and

intense, he has researched with great energy all aspects of UFO phenomenon and the alien presence. He has many

contacts, and not all serve him well. As with most humans, appearances count, so well groomed and informed contacts

with government titles impress him, as they do many. Stories that are repeated by more than one verifiable source are

given more credence, and thus with a multifaceted approach, even the most intelligent and conscientious reporter can

be made to spread an utterly fallacious story. To buffer a falsehood from discovery, those wishing to spread a lie will

expose various unsuspecting government agents or contractors to sights they are made to believe are real. Then these

individuals are lined up with a reporter of substance like John Lear, and since those telling the story genuinely believe

what they have seen, the story rings true.

Thus the reporter should not be immediately suspect if their reports later become discredited. Weigh the whole

scenario for the truth, and understand the mine fields those seeking to publish about the alien presence must walk

through. Give them credit for having reported at all, for not having given up when harassed, for not turning their back

when their lives and livelihood were threatened, for persevering when they were treated derogatorily and stories about

their personal lives were spread. Consider the source broadly, for the many sources that may be behind any given

source. Do some discerning yourself, and don't expect to have the full answer to every question given to you, ready

made. You have a brain so you can think! So share some of the burden with these brave reporters who labor long, with

little reward for their efforts, to bring you the facts

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ZetaTalk: Phil Schneider

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Note: written on Apr 15, 1997

When this former government engineer involved in the construction of underground installations broke his security

code and talked, alarm lit up the elite within the CIA and military who saw their personal escape hatch to avoiding the

coming cataclysms closing. His death was not only to silence him, it was to send a clear and unmistakable message to

any others who might be contemplating breaking their security oath. Should he have been found dead in an apparent

suicide, the message would have been blurred. Thus he was gunned down, a simple engineer meeting a death that

Mafia kingpins might meet, a death that would not be mistaken for a simple mugging or robbery. This worked, and

most of the subsequent information leaks have been disinformation designed to cloud the facts so that the truth fades

and begins to look silly alongside the company it must keep.

References to the Service-to-Self aliens the CIA had so quickly allied with are most often misunderstood, as where

they were present in the underground installations, and where their technology was being examined by the military, the

rules of engagement they were operating under are not understood by the populace hearing these tales. The military

was warned not to tamper with certain devices, but proceeded anyway under the assumption that the warning was to

keep them from knowledge, rather than harm. The orders to proceed endangered both the humans and aliens in the

vicinity, but the Service-to-Self aliens cared only for their own safety and reacted in a manner that escalated into what

has been interpreted as a shoot out. Each side thought they were defending themselves.

The alliance with Service-to-Self aliens occurred in the old days of MJ12, and matters are much different in the

present day. MJ12 has come to the realization that they were lied to, and that the alien visitors come in two flavors,

and have steadily migrated to an alliance with aliens in the Service-to-Other such as ourselves. Little of the old

alliances remains today.

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ZetaTalk: Bob Lazar

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Note: written on May 15, 1997

Like Bill Cooper, Bob Lazar is truthfully telling his experiences, and like Bill Cooper he has been attacked and knows

he is at risk and could lose his life. Both these men walk a fine line and are playing a dangerous game. Where others

are talking about their passing exposure to documents or peripheral details about possible crashed ships, the

information Bill Cooper and Bob Lazar are providing is neither hearsay or rumor, but first-hand eye witness accounts

of their activities when in direct contact with MJ12. They are both breaking a security oath in this, beyond the point

where those wanting to control the outflow of information about secret government activities allow.

The line must be drawn somewhere, and they both stepped over this line. They are, in fact, both only alive because

they went public, and noisily so, before they could be killed. Bob Lazar has been embroiled in scandals designed to

discredit him, and has allowed this to occur as the alternative stands behind this discrediting campaign, snarling and

hissing at him. As with Bill Cooper’s cooperation with rumors about his mental health, Bob Lazar has learned to live

with a smear campaign as the lesser of two evils. He would rather live, discredited, than meet with an accident.

Bob Lazar truthfully relates his experiences while hired as a contractor to assist military engineers and physicists

attempting to reverse engineer space ships loaned to MJ12 by aliens in the Service-to-Self. His insights into the

bumbling nature of a military operation purporting to be scientific are not fantasy, nor would they surprise anyone in

the private sphere exposed to how the military works. Discipline and a long history of cooperation with superiors

comes before competence. However, even if the most competent scientists were to be assigned to back engineer these

ships, they would not succeed, as the secret of how they work is locked where they cannot peek! The power source on

these ships is truly a Pandora’s box, which disintegrates when opened, taking all in the near vicinity with it.

True to the need-to-know basis under which Bob Lazar worked, he learned little of the information already gathered

by the military. He filled in the blanks with his own hypothesis, but did not arrive at the correct conclusions. Even with

the information withheld from him, he or other human scientists would not arrive at the correct conclusions. The reach

is too long, not only because the human brain has a relatively limited IQ, but because the hypothesis human scientists

cling to out of loyalty are incorrect. They start out handicapped, and in order to progress in human society, they stick

with the handicap in preference to independent thought. Thus, they are running down the wrong roads, furiously. This

was well known by the aliens who provided the ships for back engineering, and were the situation to be otherwise they

would not have been allowed to provide the ships.

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ZetaTalk: Mixed Messages

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Note: written on Jan 15, 1997

Sorting out the truth of a matter from deliberate disinformation or false claims is not the only problem facing the

populace, who hears messages from channelers who are only listening to their own sense of self importance, messages

from agents of the establishment who want the populace to hold all visitors at a distance, and messages from

individuals enjoying the limelight while describing sightings they never observed. When the truth finally does make it

to the front of the stage, it is often dressed in the confusion that the bearer has about the issues, and thus is packaged as

a mixed message.

Each human must confront his own anxieties when first facing the many wrenching realities that are surfacing during

the Awakening. For mankind, this is not a single realization, as the Awakening carries more than news of the alien

presence, does more than simply challenge religion and the pet concept that man alone is in God's image, and asks for

more than an adjustment to the concept of reincarnation and that heaven and hell are of our own making. The

cataclysms, wherein the world mankind had come to take for granted will be tossed asunder within days, rearranging

continents and shattering civilizations, is part of the package. Man must adjust to so many wrenching changes, and

thus any given messenger is highly likely to be mixing in his own anxieties with the message.

Government agents, past or present, are prone to feel unease when the structure they have cherished is threatened.

Enlisting in the military or going to work for a bureaucracy is often a way of adopting oneself into a large extended

family. Health care, orders and procedures about every and anything, and substitute parents on up the chain of

command. Learning that the government is going to fail, will not be there, sets many who have gone into service into a

state of unease that does not diminish. Someone must be to blame, and it is often the alien visitors who are delivering

the message. Thus, where government agents, past or present, are often the bearer of truthful information about the

alien presence or the coming cataclysms, they are also most likely to tinge the message with their own unease.

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ZetaTalk: Half Truths

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Note: written on Aug 15, 1996

In the world of fact and fiction, the most troublesome is the half-truth, which colors the honest reporter in shades of

gray and places doubt against all that comes from a factual source. The easiest way to discredit a truth teller is to mix

some deceptive half-truths into it, and most who hear the report will throw all out, to eliminate doubt. Creating a half-

truth is a favorite disinformation tactic, especially when the target is staunch in resisting other tactics to sidetrack them.

The honest reporter will first be approached with threats and bribes, and most often these tactics either scare the

reporter off the stage or bend the reports in the direction desired. But those with integrity who resist these tactics will

soon find their path strewn with confusing information, all to be sorted out quickly and their comments going into the

record before any background checking can be done.

A favorite half-truth is the leak from a government employee, giving all evidence of sincerity and proffering

documents that to all appearances are genuine. With the establishment withholding proof of their relationship with

aliens, and the approaching cataclysms being masked by global warming claims, hard facts rarely present, but the

tantalizing possibility appears often. Should these possibilities be discussed before proven beyond a doubt? Most often

the reporter brings forth all the material they have been given, and when parts of the report later prove to be ridiculous,

the establishment has won a round. This tactic is more effective than discrediting the individual by their lifestyle, their

motives, their associations, their competence, or their financial circumstances. The reason is simple. Outside attacks are

seen as just that, an attempt to discredit. But when the reporter him or herself makes the claim, then they have

discredited themselves.

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ZetaTalk: SETI

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ZetaTalk: SETI

Note: written on Oct 15, 1995

The absurdity of the SETI premise has been mentioned long and loudly by many - that aliens would simply use radio

signals, that aliens would wait for an invitation, that the UFOs sighted regularly in the skies should not at least be

factored into the program. Of course those at the helm of the SETI project know how absurd the premise is, and of

course they know the alien presence exists on their planet. They are all active members of the larger MJ12

organization, and in most cases have even met aliens and canvassed alien technology. Carl Sagan was simply a good

actor, who was as is rumored offered his choice of several roles and chose skeptic. The government is leaving props

for the truly anxious to cling to, and the scene of renowned scientists peering into the sky and hoping for a radio bleep

makes a statement - the Earth has not yet been visited. The truly anxious can then ignore all the rest of the uproar as

misguided. After all, Carl Sagan said so. How long will SETI keep it up? As long as there are anxious citizens

nervously querying the agencies and as long as the US government can continue to function. The coming cataclysms

will surely put an end to SETI, but we expect SETI to be issuing reassurance right up to the end.

Below added on July 29, 2006 during the GodlikeProduction Live radio show.

[Jun 29] One of the senior people in the SETI project, which is the Carl Sagan Search for Extraterrestrial

project, has confirmed to the Disclosure Project that they have received multiple extraterrestrial signals.

SETI wants to get back in the news, on the front pages, and they've achieved it. How could they do this with the same

old line that they were out there listening and listening? People were tired of hearing about that, they had to say, wait a

minute, somebody's sending and that's the whole purpose of this news release. Are they really getting ET messages?

As we said 10 years ago, aliens do not send messages in mysterious and coded ways by radio, they just zip right over

by spaceship and have been here a heck of a long time - something your government doesn't want you to think about.

So this is just keeping SETI alive as a disinformation op. That's what this was all about.

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ZetaTalk: EQ Pegasi Signal

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ZetaTalk: EQ Pegasi Signal

Note: written on Jul 15, 1999

This was a hoax, indeed, and a rather obvious one. Disinformation comes from many directions, but they all lead to a

common source. Carefully orchestrated so as to appear in conflict with each other, in competition with each other. The

many sources in fact do not know of each other so this competition is genuine, at least from the players standpoint.

The source is not MJ12, which is more concerned about how to get the truth out, in a manner that won't cause

destructive panic. The source is also not the legitimate government, or any of it's agencies, including the much gutted

of late CIA. The source is more related to the black helicopters, and the mutilations, a loosely connected group of

establishment characters who know of the coming cataclysms and the alien presence through membership in MJ12,

and innuendoes given to their friends. Some call this group the New Word Order, though they go by no formal name,

nor even realize in many cases that they are working together.

Many discredited CIA members, kicked out of the government as an alternative to eliminating them (i.e. killing them),

have become employed by the wealthy and nervous. They know of each other, and contact each other, and without

informing the employers are working together. If this would astonish you, that they could have a reach into NASA and

foist a fraud, take a look at the personality of most of those running NASA, and their former affiliation to the CIA. All

one evil club.

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ZetaTalk: Bad Press

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ZetaTalk: Bad Press

Note: written on Aug 15, 1995

The history of the Sirians is not significantly different from the history of the Pleiadeans or Nordics, but they have

been given bad press. They are blamed with seeding the Earth with their rejects, malevolent desires to possess the

Earth, and at times it seems with any floating blame that has nowhere else to go. Who did that? It was probably the

Sirians, they're a bad bunch. How did all this misperception get started? In the same manner that misperceptions have

developed about ourselves, the Service-to-Other Zetas, and the hominoids from Orion, and the reptilians, and even

aliens in general.

Almost without exception every alien life form currently visiting Earth has both ambassadors in the Service-to-Self

and Service-to-Other orientation, as except for rare instances where 3rd Density visitors are escorted to Earth, all

visitors are in 4th Density or higher and have chosen their orientation. Where ambassadors from the Service-to-Other

orientation are self effacing and honest and work behind the scenes, the ambassadors from the Service-to-Self are

given to ceremony and false promises and like to make an impression. Thus your governments met these ambassadors

first, and dealt with their deception and takeover agendas first, before coming to the realization that there are two

distinct orientations afoot and they had rolled out the red carpet for the wrong one.

Rumors usually started flying about the time the honeymoon was ending, and since these rumors suited those

Earthlings who wished humans to keep all aliens at arms length, they have never stopped flying. Rather, they have

been fed, sparks fanned into flames by false stories, by those in the employ of certain establishment elites. The vast

bulk of all information on aliens that is floated as truth, leaked by someone with credentials, verified by this or that

person who should know, or found on old paper or in the files of someone now deceased - is concocted information.

And where the vast majority of aliens contacting humans are in the Service-to-Other orientation, these false stories

almost invariably describe aliens with the characteristics of the Service-to-Self.

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ZetaTalk: Lifebearing Planets

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Note: written on Mar 15, 1996

Recent announcements by NASA that warm, wet planets have been found orbiting nearby suns is not, in fact, news.

NASA has known about these planets for some years. What is new is the policy to share this information with the

public. In the past, the policy was to deny the alien presence, and in line with this deny that life elsewhere could even

exist. This lifting of one more blanket in the cover- up is in line with the new MJ12 policy to acclimate the populace to

the alien presence.

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ZetaTalk: Government

Weekly Chats on the Pole Shift ning

ZetaTalk: Human Elites

ZetaTalk: Plan to Survive

ZetaTalk: Elite Exodus

ZetaTalk: Carry-On Goverment

ZetaTalk: Bush Plan

ZetaTalk: Plan Tests

ZetaTalk: Ultra-Right Unease

ZetaTalk: Ultimate Lot

ZetaTalk: Bunker Goverment

ZetaTalk: Slipping Grip

ZetaTalk: No Place to Run

ZetaTalk: Agonizing Wait

ZetaTalk: Market Freefall

ZetaTalk: What They Fear

ZetaTalk: Contrails

ZetaTalk: Contrail Plan

ZetaTalk: Renewed Activity

ZetaTalk: Microwave Towers

ZetaTalk: Blockades

ZetaTalk: Travel Blocks

ZetaTalk: Shelter-in-Place Test

ZetaTalk: Guest Worker Program

ZetaTalk: Continuity of Government

ZetaTalk: North American Union

ZetaTalk: Bureaucrats

ZetaTalk: Dissenters

ZetaTalk: Martial Law

ZetaTalk: Martial Law Attempts

ZetaTalk: Strongarm Tactics

ZetaTalk: Travel Restrictions

ZetaTalk: Executive Orders

ZetaTalk: Bush Power Grab

ZetaTalk: SARS

ZetaTalk: Ricin Plot

ZetaTalk: UN Role

ZetaTalk: UAE Port Deal

ZetaTalk: UN Immunity

ZetaTalk: Terror Alerts

ZetaTalk: Terrorism?

ZetaTalk: OperationTopOff

ZetaTalk: Cyber Security

ZetaTalk: Tagging Citizens

ZetaTalk: Rayburn Shootout

ZetaTalk: B52 Stolen Nukes

ZetaTalk: Military Assassinations

ZetaTalk: Cheney Ablaze

ZetaTalk: Big Lie

ZetaTalk: Credibility Issues

ZetaTalk: Cover-up Cracks

Cracks in the Coverup - Examples

ZetaTalk: Cover-up Erosion

ZetaTalk: Point of No Return

ZetaTalk: Cover-up Consternation

ZetaTalk: Weak Explanations

ZetaTalk: Two Scenarios

ZetaTalk: Pied Piper

ZetaTalk: Spin Control

ZetaTalk: Public Perception

ZetaTalk: Why FEMA Failed

ZetaTalk: Who Knows?

ZetaTalk: Muzzling the Media

ZetaTalk: Unraveling

ZetaTalk: Shared Secrets

ZetaTalk: Impossible Message

ZetaTalk: Public Awareness

ZetaTalk: Navy Dilemma

ZetaTalk: Ships Out to Sea

ZetaTalk: ISS Evacuation

ZetaTalk: Balancing Act

ZetaTalk: Spin Control

ZetaTalk: Face to Face

ZetaTalk: G8 Summit

ZetaTalk: Stunned Silence

ZetaTalk: Muzzled

ZetaTalk: Dead Astronomers

ZetaTalk: Deliberate Leaks

ZetaTalk: Curious Contractors

ZetaTalk: NASA's Gambits

ZetaTalk: Attack on America

ZetaTalk: London Bombing

ZetaTalk: UK Car Bombs

ZetaTalk: Bush Knew

ZetaTalk: Insiders

ZetaTalk: On Point re 911

ZetaTalk: Echelon

ZetaTalk: Terror Tactics

ZetaTalk: Anthrax

ZetaTalk: Smallpox

ZetaTalk: Sudden Innculations

ZetaTalk: Vaccine Failure

ZetaTalk: Pandemic Threats

ZetaTalk: Nudging the Pandemic

ZetaTalk: Terri Schiavo

ZetaTalk: Micro-Biologists

ZetaTalk: Fitzgerald Indictments

ZetaTalk: Corporate Thugs

ZetaTalk: Bin Laden

ZetaTalk: FEMA

ZetaTalk: Bin Laden Audio

ZetaTalk: Saddam's Hanging

ZetaTalk: Bali Bombing

ZetaTalk: Iraq Civil War

ZetaTalk: Moscow Theater

ZetaTalk: 10 Plane Plot

ZetaTalk: Iraq Obsession

ZetaTalk: Bush Mandate

ZetaTalk: Backlash

ZetaTalk: Walk-In

ZetaTalk: Decapitation Process

ZetaTalk: Countering Fraud

ZetaTalk: Gonzales Saga

ZetaTalk: Bush on the Bottle

ZetaTalk: Cheney Blasts

ZetaTalk: Grounding Airplanes

ZetaTalk: Nazi in the White House

ZetaTalk: Iraq Invasion

ZetaTalk: Stumble

ZetaTalk: Hours of Cards

ZetaTalk: Inspections

ZetaTalk: Anti-War Protests

ZetaTalk: Depression

ZetaTalk: Congressional Approval

ZetaTalk: Firm Determination

ZetaTalk: Not Succeed

ZetaTalk: Falcon Depot

ZetaTalk: Berg Beheading

ZetaTalk: Israel War

ZetaTalk: Iran/Iraq War

ZetaTalk: N Korea War

ZetaTalk: the India Caper

ZetaTalk: Iran Boondoggle

ZetaTalk: Hezbollah Attack

ZetaTalk: Warning

ZetaTalk: Nuclear Shutdown

ZetaTalk: Kosovo

ZetaTalk: SOHO

ZetaTalk: Escape Plan

ZetaTalk: Mars Rovers

ZetaTalk: Mars Exploration

ZetaTalk: Contour Probe

ZetaTalk: Soyuz Rocket

ZetaTalk: Columbia

ZetaTalk: Shuttle Discovery

ZetaTalk: Debris

ZetaTalk: Pioneer 10

ZetaTalk: Genesis

ZetaTalk: Hubble Trouble

ZetaTalk: Nuke-It Plan

ZetaTalk: Driving Blind

ZetaTalk: Tight Control

ZetaTalk: Russia, Da?

ZetaTalk: Deep Impact

ZetaTalk: Deep Impact Result

ZetaTalk: Popular Vote

ZetaTalk: Popularity Poles

ZetaTalk: If Gore Had Prevailed

ZetaTalk: New Leadership

ZetaTalk: An Inconvenient Truth

ZetaTalk: Rove Squeeze

ZetaTalk: Rove's Resignation

ZetaTalk: Social Security Scam

ZetaTalk: Increasing Irrelevance

ZetaTalk: Face of Fear

ZetaTalk: MJ12 Demise

ZetaTalk: Suicide

ZetaTalk: Misuse

ZetaTalk: New MJ12

ZetaTalk: Aftertime MJ12

ZetaTalk: Only the US

ZetaTalk: Russian MJ12

ZetaTalk: US/Russian

ZetaTalk: Elected Officials

ZetaTalk: World Leaders

ZetaTalk: Certain Countries

ZetaTalk: Planet X Passage

ZetaTalk: China Visit

ZetaTalk: Diebold Wins

ZetaTalk: Kerry's Concession

ZetaTalk: Cabinet Exodus

ZetaTalk: Bush Busting

ZetaTalk: Flickering Candle

ZetaTalk: October Surprise

ZetaTalk: Military Shuffle

ZetaTalk: October Surprise

ZetaTalk: Hillary = Bush Lite

ZetaTalk: McCain's Chances

ZetaTalk: McCain's VP

ZetaTalk: Old Habits

ZetaTalk: Empathy by Proxy

ZetaTalk: Wizard of Oz

ZetaTalk: Pedophilia Power

ZetaTalk: Living in a Democracy

ZetaTalk: Civil Rights

ZetaTalk: Wellstone

ZetaTalk: Ken Lay

ZetaTalk: Financier Suicides

ZetaTalk: Rabin

ZetaTalk: Bhutto's Assassination

ZetaTalk: Oklahoma City Bombing

ZetaTalk: DC Sniper

ZetaTalk: LSD Trip

ZetaTalk: Nuclear Pollution

ZetaTalk: Communism

ZetaTalk: Ulterior Motives

ZetaTalk: Washington Monument

ZetaTalk: Roswell

ZetaTalk: Corso's Roswell

ZetaTalk: EBE

ZetaTalk: Cover-Up

ZetaTalk: Alien Presence

ZetaTalk: Right To Know

ZetaTalk: Openness Policy

ZetaTalk: Military Deal

ZetaTalk: Military Accidents

ZetaTalk: Reverse Engineered

ZetaTalk: American Computer Co.

ZetaTalk: Crash at Kecksburg

ZetaTalk: Crashed Ships

ZetaTalk: MJ12

ZetaTalk: Omnipotent Krlll

ZetaTalk: Good or Evil

ZetaTalk: Agreements

ZetaTalk: Power Outages

ZetaTalk: Government Song

ZetaTalk: Yellow Book

ZetaTalk: MJ12 Agenda

ZetaTalk: MJ12 Projects

ZetaTalk: Zeta/MJ12 Goals

ZetaTalk: MJ12 Mouthpiece

ZetaTalk: Pine Gap

ZetaTalk: Area 51

ZetaTalk: Dulce, New Mexico

ZetaTalk: Lazar's Sport Craft

ZetaTalk: MJ12 Documents

ZetaTalk: Blue Book

ZetaTalk: MJ12 Groups

ZetaTalk: MJ12 Service

ZetaTalk: MJ12 Perks

ZetaTalk: Aviary

ZetaTalk: Red Book

ZetaTalk: Apollo Logo

ZetaTalk: Apollo 13

ZetaTalk: NASA

ZetaTalk: Silenced Astronauts

ZetaTalk: NASA Wars

ZetaTalk: Moon Landing

ZetaTalk: International Cooperation

ZetaTalk: Global Conspiracy

ZetaTalk: Bilderberger Group

ZetaTalk: Trilateral Commission

ZetaTalk: Council of Foreign Relations

ZetaTalk: Illuminati

ZetaTalk: Masons

ZetaTalk: Star Wars

ZetaTalk: Russian Star Wars

ZetaTalk: Moon Installations

ZetaTalk: Disappearing Satellites

ZetaTalk: Near Earth Objects

ZetaTalk: Nuclear Site

ZetaTalk: Philadelphia Experiment

ZetaTalk: Montauk Project

ZetaTalk: Alternative 3

ZetaTalk: Immunization

ZetaTalk: Inoculations

ZetaTalk: Medical Implants

ZetaTalk: Project Prometheus

ZetaTalk: Tesla

ZetaTalk: Underground Installations

ZetaTalk: Underground Tunnels

ZetaTalk: HAARP

ZetaTalk: Admiral Byrd

ZetaTalk: President Kennedy

ZetaTalk: John, Jr.

ZetaTalk: Marilyn Monroe

ZetaTalk: Admiral Forestall

ZetaTalk: Harrintgon

ZetaTalk: Silencing Methods

ZetaTalk: Cooperation

ZetaTalk: Snooping on Contactees

ZetaTalk: School Surveillance

ZetaTalk: Customs

ZetaTalk: Mind Control

ZetaTalk: Remote Viewing

ZetaTalk: Gelatin Rain

ZetaTalk: Black Helicopters

ZetaTalk: Autopsy Tapes

ZetaTalk: Pseudo-Fiction

ZetaTalk: X-Files

ZetaTalk: Information Agents

ZetaTalk: Overt Agents

ZetaTalk: The Falcon

ZetaTalk: Bill Cooper

ZetaTalk: John Lear

ZetaTalk: Phil Schneider

ZetaTalk: Bob Lazar

ZetaTalk: Mixed Messages

ZetaTalk: Half Truths

ZetaTalk: SETI

ZetaTalk: EQ Pegasi Signal

ZetaTalk: Bad Press

ZetaTalk: Lifebearing Planets


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