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ZetaTalk: Death Wish

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ZetaTalk: Death Wish

Note: written Nov 15, 1995.

Florida and California are both at risk to heavy tidal waves during the coming pole shift, and as suffocation is a

painless and swift departure many oldsters or transients wishing not to linger during troubled times have migrated

there. These decisions are not conscious, however, and if challenged would be denied. Suicide, for those in good health

who have concern for others, should never be considered, though this is of course a personal decision. The reason we

advise to consider otherwise is that others will need you. You are aware of what is coming, and so many will be taken unawares.

There are children who will be left orphaned, without protection, vulnerable to the worst nightmares. There are those

who will wish to stay alive for the safe of their dependents, children or others in poor health or needing them, who will

need advice. What to eat? Where to go? How to distill the water to avoid lead poisoning? Where to get Vitamin C?

And what to expect over the next few months? Should they move to the hills or remain along the rivers where fish

abound? Should they rebuild a shelter or plan a houseboat to accommodate the rising water? Should they join this

group or that, or take to the road? What country or direction is the best direction, if moving is the obvious choice?

How long will this last? Will help arrive to rescue them? All these questions are those you can help them with.

So before considering an easy way out for your self, consider how much you can relieve the pain of others, who will

suffer without your help!

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ZetaTalk: Bill Gates

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ZetaTalk: Bill Gates

Note: written Sep 15, 1996. Planet X and the 12th Planet are one and the same.

Speculation on Bill Gates runs rampant, as he is an inordinately successful man. Though naturally endowed with

outstanding intelligence and coming from a family with financial resources and connections, he has skyrocketed to

heights unusual even for those with these advantages. Becoming the richest man in the world in the years leading into

the millennium, he also has achieved a power position as the leader of Microsoft, the dominant personal computer

software. Speculation runs the gamut - that he is the AntiChrist, that he is going to be president or even rule the world,

that he is a savior of some kind. None of this is true, but the situation does warrant watching for several reasons.

Computers will become an increasingly important factor in linking the world into a communications network.

Today, satellites are central to this linking, replacing an expensive lattice of lines spread over land and along sea

beds. But as the 12th Planet approaches and magnetic confusion increases, these satellites will begin to mis-

perform. Satellites use magnets for alignment of their internal mechanisms, and if pointing in wrong directions,

communications are halted. What good is a message intended for the Earth's surface when it is sent into outer

space? A lattice of computer controlled communication dishes along the surface of the Earth and bounced along

by ships positioned in the oceans will replace today's overweening reliance on satellites.

Internet access is moving into the average home, with the advent of new technology that allows the TV to act as

a web browser. Thus, when recovering from a disaster such as the coming pole shift, it is conceivable that this

route will be used by the government, should it survive, to address the nation. Certainly those parts of the

government planning to survive are looking to such a solution. Technology that is dominant in the average

household could then with the addition of a single new product link communities across a nation. Thus members

in the government have reason to desire dominance in the personal computer arena, and to pave the way for this

to occur.

Where the above points sound like solutions, if in the wrong hands they can become a tool for domination and control.

Any network should have more than one support system, and this is the point to watch and guard against. What is the

backup should the software from Microsoft fail?

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ZetaTalk: The Internet

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ZetaTalk: The Internet

Note: written Feb 15, 1997.

The ability of humans to communicate over distances has moved, over the past century, from the pace of a single

human's ability to travel or deliver mail to instant communication all over the world with the press of a key - the

Internet. That this upsurge has occurred in the century leading up to the millennium, with its cataclysms, is not an

accident. Mankind has been assisted at certain points with technological breakthroughs, so that a swift up-tick would

occur at this point. The Transformation, which involves integrating those humans strongly in the Service-to-Others

with aliens operating in that orientation, will mean bringing those humans into highly technological Zetan and hybrid

cultures. To avoid severe culture shock, the technological level humans are familiar with has been raised. Where this

up-tick in technology is evident on many fronts, in communications it is most evident in the growth of the Internet.

Moving into the Transformation, the Internet will continue to grow and permeate many aspects of daily life. Following

the pole shift, many Service-to-Other groups will find they are still in communication with each other, trading helpful

hints and passing along news. Technology will not die among these groups, as the education or know-how of one can

be passed along, using the Internet as a school or training vehicle. Thus, the Internet will continue to help those

surviving humans operating in the Service-to-Other orientation to acclimate to the life style of the 4th Density Service-

to-Other aliens they will soon be encountering. It will make for a smooth transition, as they will in many cases

encounter their new neighbors via the Internet before meeting them face to face, and find when this occurs that they

are meeting an old friend!

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ZetaTalk: Melting Pot

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ZetaTalk: Melting Pot

Note: written May 15, 1997.

Early on after its discovery as a large land mass relatively un-populated and rich in resources, the Americas became

the target of hungry immigrants. Protected from discovery earlier by the vast oceans on either side, the Americas had

remained the land of the American Indian with only an occasional lost straggler arriving by boat from other lands.

Unlike the acquisitive values forming the base of European society, the American Indian did not plunder the land and

its resources, but lived in great harmony with nature and considered themselves the guests of nature rather than the

owners of nature. Thus, to the Europeans, the Americas looked like land and resources for the taking. The rush was on,

and has not stopped, and the general notion of immigrating to America, to the land of opportunity, has spread around

the world so that all countries have this impression of the Americas - go there and get rich!

Immigrants are characterized primarily by their ability to initiate action, to be activists rather than pacifists. In their

native country, all experience food shortages or repression, but not all pick up and leave home, friends, family, and

familiarity! During the early years when the great melting pot was forming, many immigrants could anticipate never

seeing family and friends again, or even hearing from them by the rare letter that made the distance without being lost

or destroyed. Thus the early immigrants were courageous as well as activists, and were capable of operating

independently. America is the nation that involves itself in other nation’s affairs because of the genetic makeup of its immigrants. Because of the initial rush toward riches, the attitude of most Americans is that nothing is impossible but

only requires action.

Differences, rather than conformity, are the rule in America, due to the vast mixture of races and cultures in American

cities. Most cultural mixing can result in explosive confrontations, synergy of ideas, or both. In the case of Arabs and

Israelis, explosive confrontations are the result. In the case of cultural and racial mixing in America - both results have occurred. America is the land of violence, statistically holding some of the highest rates in violent crimes. America

holds its lead as the nation where the vast majority of patents issue from in great part because of the attitude of its

immigrants, who are by their genetic nature exploratory and persistent, but also because the cultural mix encourages

tolerance of new ideas! Thus the great melting pot has fostered a result few anticipated, a synergy that is by its nature a

leader in ideas and a champion for democratic rule. For mankind, the melting pot has proved to be a success.

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ZetaTalk: Imaging

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ZetaTalk: Imaging

Note: written during the Feb 16, 2002 IRC session. Planet X and the 12th Planet are one and the same.

The establishment has much discussed this moment, when there will be serious attention given to the object, moving,

in the skies. At the turn of the millennium, it was thought that NASA and their buddy system would call it a nova.

However, with the attention given to the Zeta coordinates, they understood that motion in this object would be under

too much scrutiny. Where explanations that the common man might buy will be floated out, such as the recent

pronouncement about CO2 causing slowing rotation, the establishment knows that the educated man won't buy into

this. Even the little guy, perhaps without wealth but with a brain, can sort though what he observes and hears. To

confirm that the inbound object is a Brown Dwarf, moving at the rate it is, would raise questions as to its distance.

This in conjunction with the closeness to our coordinates would likewise confirm, officially, ZetaTalk. They would

prefer to hide, and ferry the anxious to Nancy and Troubled Times.

The governments in the know about what is coming, or those suspecting based on rumor in the highest circles, have

only a few options. They could come clean, admit a cover-up, and then run and hide to save themselves. This is

unlikely to happen, until perhaps the last week, as these individuals enjoy power and privilege, and are loathe to give it up. They could employ strong arm tactics, invoke martial law, and refuse and eliminate any questions about earth

changes. This requires a military and citizenry well in agreement with these means, which does not exist in either the

US, Canada, or Europe. Even China found the Internet rebutting their lines, re Tianaman Square. The uproar, even

after 911, over loss of individual rights, showed the US that their citizenry were not in agreement. Thus, they have

evolved a third tactic, which it to allow discussion, but ignore it. In other words, no comment.

In Europe, there is likely to be more open discussion of the matter, as in the UK the Planet X issue re-emerged

recently. Britain is also resentful of the US, and the European Community resentful of both. Thus, each country is

likely to respond individually, depending on the public and administrators. Where the country might fare well, there

may be open forums on plans as to what to do, in case. In countries where there will be devastation, such as in India,

no discussion will occur. In countries where there is already suppression of news and discussion, such as Saudi Arabia,

there will be continued suppression. In Scandinavia, which will fare well, there may be open government plans to

assist their populace when the time comes. Thus, as with people, each government or country might take a unique tack,

an unexpected tack, and our predictions wrong or right, depending. These matters are in the hands of man, who has

free choice, and not our hands.

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ZetaTalk: Star Charts

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ZetaTalk: Star Charts

Following the posting of an infrared image taken on Jan 5, 2002, the establishment was uneasy but felt the presence of

an existing star in the near vicinity would suffice to explain, in the main, to the man on the street, the image. Those

following the debate closely, which several thousand are, were not so confused, however, but indeed recognized, in

spite of the image makers later protests, that two objects were present in the new image, not on the star charts. In that once is an aberration, in science, but twice is a pattern, the lights went off when the French team came through again

with an image taken on Jan 19, 2002. This had the astonishing association of being:

1. a legitimate image, taken by a student given access to the equipment as a part of a training routine, and

2. having the stamp of the observatory, and

3. accompanied by an ESO star chart to be used as comparison.

They were horrified. All attempts to suppress such an occurrence had slipped through their fingers, as they had not

gone down to the level of trainers and students in their covert warnings to astronomers. The cat was well out of the bag by the time the establishment became aware. Thus, they huddled, no comment being the mode, as Noted by Steve

Havas who found it odd that David Tholen of the Hawaii complex was absent on the sci.astro Usenet for days after this

announcement. The options were discussed. Should they call it a new object, perhaps a nova, and deal with the motion

according to our coordinates later? Should they ignore it, and have their lack of interest rouse curiosity? Should they

state that this is an existing object, the excuse used on Jan 5, 2002, always the most comfortable answer.

They chose the latter, and proceeded to insert an object in the star charts that would be downloaded by interested

parties in the public, so that the public, comparing, would find the new object identified in France an old object, and dismiss the image. They proceeded, but Steve Havas is a gifted contactee whom we have great confidence in, and thus

he was guided as to where to look, and when. His early post that he was suspicious when Tholen did not post a

comment to Nancy's announcement shows he was aware that activities behind the scenes were in process. Caught in

the Act! is his statement to sci.astro, and this it was. By pointing to what was a botched doctoring job, in time for many throughout the world to follow in his footsteps and do their own checking, he produced a catch-22 for the

establishment. Should they proceed to fix their botches, hurriedly done by inexperienced image fixing disinfo artists,

they had to worry about astronomers worldwide comparing the new star charts to those they had in their possession

already.

Thus, the decision was made to withdraw the botched and doctored images, leaving Steve looking like a liar. This

supposition was posted today, Mar 2, 2002, on sci.astro, by Nancy, so that those astronomers around the world, who

number in the hundreds, who have done their own comparisons and been horrified, will be alerted to the plan. Thus,

though Steve may come under some heat, he should and we are confident will, understand that many are out there have

proof now of the cover-up, and the search for Planet X has now intensified a thousand fold. For each astronomer

looking, or thinking, there will for every astronomer finding the images being doctored, the bastion of integrity the star

charts are supposed to be being dooctored, there will be dozens, each, that will be talked to privately in hushed tones

about this matter. A wildfire has been lit, and cannot be damped. And Steve cannot be touched else suspicions will go

wild.

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ZetaTalk: Converging Signs

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ZetaTalk: Converging Signs

written Aug 6, 2004

For those looking for signs, we would point to the convergence of signs, all recognizable by mankind. The known orbits of

Venus and Earth appearing in a crop circle, the visible span of the Moon Swirls as they fan behind Planet X in its retrograde

orbit, and observations and photos of Venus, looming. Where Venus was deliberately Moved by ourselves past the Sun for the anticipated June 8 transit, so as not to set off undue panic and give an excuse for the cover-up to continue, it is not truly moving along on its way as anticipated. It had stalled in its orbit, as has Earth, because of the presence of Planet X standing

before it, and despite the shuffle in position, this road block still exists.

Sign1: Venus, too large in the morning sky, too bright, too close to Earth despite the dictates that force the

planets into their respective orbits.

Planet X is rounding the S. Pole of the Sun and rising to the Ecliptic, a slow crawl past the Sun while intense conflicting

gravity particle flows play out, the pull into the Sun repulsed by outbursts from the Sun.

Sign 2: The orbit of Venus is approximately 2/3 of the distance from the Sun of Earth's orbit. What does the

Ashgrove diagram show us? If the first ring represents the orbit of Venus, positioned outside of the diagram to

fix the Ecliptic position for the viewer, then Earth rides the next ring, another 1/3 out from the center of the Sun.

Sign 3: The location below the Ecliptic can be surmised in Coventry, on July 4, moving toward the approximate

7° shown in Ashgrove on July 27, 2004.

Ashgrove, Canada : July 27, 2004

Castellfollit del Boix : July 3, 2004

Coventry : July 4, 2004

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ZetaTalk: Converging Signs

And what of the 120° span from the location of the Planet X corpus to its Moon Swirls, dragging behind it?

Sign 4: As we explained, the Dance of the Moons fans behind Planet X, but does not wrap round before it, and as recent crop circles such as Castellfolit del Boix have clearly presented, this 120° span is the width to be

expected and most often appearing in photos.

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ZetaTalk: Uneasy Public

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ZetaTalk: Uneasy Public

Note: written Mar 15, 2002

The public at large is already uneasy. They are considering what they see about them, these past few years. The

weather absolutely cannot be explained, and the weatherman is ignoring this, which in and of itself is a cause for

uneasiness in the common man. Crops go awry, businesses go belly-up, bankruptcies increasing, and powerful

companies like Enron try rip-off games that cannot succeed in the long run. The degree of arrogance in the powerful

US administration is stunning, so much so that few talk about this openly, yet they feel this. In Europe, the weather

and behavior in the US is openly discussed, but no solutions or confronting is done by their governments. The

establishment is at a loss as to what to say to their public. They feel they cannot admit, as this will cause panic, and they cannot deny, as there will be angry questions. They can, however, ignore, a favored tactic in any case for those in

politics and corporate management. Stall, have no comment, refuse to engage, refuse to answer the question, and

pretend the issue is not before them.

At the same time, due to the unease of those who must meet the public, and demands for some official explanation,

there will be a need for a exit route. If they want to reduce the demands on government, on themselves personally, they

will turn the anxiety elsewhere. They will turn it onto ZetaTalk and Troubled Times, specifically. This will start slowly,

at first increasing requests for interviews and information. The great leaders will be off in their high offices, allowing

the stoic souls in Troubled Times and Nancy to meet the anxiety of the public. This is anticipated to allow the common

man to address his situation by either:

1. planning and preparing, or

2. resigning himself to a sudden death.

Both are messages the governments wish to give the public, but cannot without explaining why they are continuing to

save themselves at the public's expense.

ZetaTalk has always taken the tack that the bad news should be offset by what-to-do. In other words, the public will

close their ears if there is nothing they can do, as an individual. But to the extent that an individual can see a route, a means of saving themselves and helping those in their heart, they will not go into denial. Troubled Times, under the

influence of Nancy who would have it no other way, has followed suit, and is filled with common man achievable

solutions. It is unique, in this regard, on the Internet and elsewhere. Outdoor survival assumes a short period of time,

post Cold War sites dealing with nuclear threat assume the ability to stock up and then return to normal life. Troubled

Times is the only site that discusses a post catastrophe situation, long term, world wide, in a practical manner. It does

not take names, refusing to do so, encouraging the little guy to join with friends and those known to him. It has the feel

to it of an answer, and thus those who read it heed.

Thus, for Troubled Times and ZetaTalk in the months ahead, there will be more publicity. This may require more

mirror sites, more publication of the nonprofit booklet, and more interviews by Nancy. All of this is in place, and can

be readily done, so should not cause consternation in the group or distress. It is doable.

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ZetaTalk: Vapid Media

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ZetaTalk: Vapid Media

Note: written during the Jan 18, 2003 Live ZetaTalk IRC Session.

Increasingly, the public, worldwide, is suspecting that their government, their media, is not telling them the truth. This

has always been the case in closely monitored countries, but even there the underground would relay information that

would make sense, relate to other pieces of information, and thus could be trusted. Now, however, the underground is

carrying information from other, supposedly free countries, that does not make sense. Thus, this suspicion, this unease, is worldwide. What country, anywhere, is reporting and dealing with rising seas, disappearing islands, melting poles,

melting glaciers, and high tides? Even when unreported in the media, the fact that this is unreported, under reported, is alarming. In the past, such occurrences would be big news, now ignored!

What country, anywhere, is reporting the reasons for weather changes? Global Warming is floated out, was floated out,

years ago, but the casual manner that the Bush Administration has toward the supposed cause of Global Warming is a

sure clue that this is not the reason, and where is the debate among scientists? In the past, such weather extremes, even in a local area, would give rise to nightly news coverage, regular attention from the major powers in the world, but

now there is an utter lack of this. This casual attitude toward weather changes that are wrecking economies, destroying

crops, flooding countrysides, is a clue that something more horrible is close at hand. In the face of this, in those countries that have what is assumed to be a free press, a media that can dig into problems and expose them, there is

chirping good news. All is about to change, an upswing just around the corner, and everyone loves the leadership!

Think about how little it takes to control the media. This is done in closely controlled countries like Saudi Arabia,

where the internet gateway is in one city in one facility monitored by one group, so that access can be cut off instantly.

Or such as China, which found fax machines traitorous during the Tianaman Square incident, information escaping to

the outside world, such is their control over information flow within China. But in supposedly free countries there are

few corporate heads that control the TV stations, the Newspapers, the Magazines, and thus the news to the vast

majority of the public can be controlled. Pollsters, also, are controllable, taken by many but the results run up by computer and thus, if the results are wrong, the final numbers are simply changed! The Stock Market, where the DOW

or similar indexes around the world are calculated supposedly by being run up from the bottom, a composite from the

whole, are published by few. Can the public quickly calculate the DOW, based on changes? Does the public have

access to what goes into this calculation?

Thus, the public will be lied to until they are so suspicious of the changes about them, the lack of attention, that the lies are counter productive. This occurred with quakes, where the USGS was so out of sync with reports coming from

elsewhere that suspicions were raised. Then quakes, en mass, were disappearing from the databases, noticed after the

8+ in Alaska where hundreds of quakes disappeared after having been posted to the database. It takes no more than

this to create a climate of suspicion, and this is about to happen with polls, and chirpy economy reports, and inane

distractions like Iraq. The public, in all countries, will increasingly demonstrate, often spontaneously, and this will get on the news as it will be in the underground, and if unreported, will create more suspicions. The starving and homeless

will become so numerous and evident they will force their way into the news. Earthquake ravaged cities will spring

into the news, and while reporting that will reveal more than an earthquake. Thus, the creeping suspicion that Bush

does not have the approval rating reported is only the start.

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ZetaTalk: Survived

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ZetaTalk: Survived

The explosive attention given to ZetaTalk, in spite of attempts to completely discredit Nancy or take her down in some

manner by association with scam artists such as Hazelwood, were expected to succeed. Hazelwood was a new game

plan, and had all the hallmarks of success, well funded and backed by more personnel than the public could even

imagine. By distancing herself from Hazelwood, Nancy cut that plan in shreds. She did not allow the money

connection to attach to her. Thus, he went limping into the Art Bell show, and is fearful now of being sued for money

by the promises he has made to many. He cannot save them, and now that many are cautious about the funds they give

to him, can be traced and tracked down, and sued. So ZetaTalk survived this last concerted effort to eliminate the

threat that Nancy represented.

Meanwhile, her renown increased, on the Internet, every government's bane. Imagine that for every person reading her

site there is at least a half dozen alerted. Imagine that for each of these half dozen most, electronically, post word about

on the Internet to other mailing lists or posting boards. Imagine that for every person getting wind of what is really

about to occur, there is discussion at dinner tables or coffee shops or bars. Imagine that each of these takes the message further, bringing it up when the subject warrants. Thus, it is exploding, which at least the US government is aware of.

Nancy has not allowed herself to be dragged down, or compromised her message when asked, as on Earth Changes TV

recently where ZetaTalk refused to buy into the Sun Mega-Cycle matter. She is deemed to have integrity, not someone

they can kill (though thousands of attempts have been made) or compromised. Thus, they must adapt to her, at this

date.

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ZetaTalk: 2002 Trends

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ZetaTalk: 2002 Trends

Note: written during the March 23, 2002 Live ZetaTalk IRC Session.

There are several trends that will emerge, shortly.

The first is the cover-up, becoming so distressed that cracks are appearing with no mortar at hand to repair them. If the

inbound planet, Planet X, will soon start a zoom so rapid that it will be visible to amateurs in the night sky, with their

equipment, by mid-2002, then what are they to say? All explanations such as a new comet, a nova, or a new

phenomena previously unknown to man, will only go so far. Thus, NASA and the observatories they control, which

are to a greater extent than the man on the street realizes, essentially all observatories, are almost paralyzed in the way to proceed. Various silly explanations, many of which will be contradictory, may emerge, but the contradictions and

delays in explanation will clue the thinking man into realizing that a cover-up indeed in effect. Not the result hoped

for. Thus, the next trend re the cover-up is incompetence, conflicting explanations, and increasing cracks.

The second trend is climate and weather changes, increasing ocean warming and melting poles, and quakes striking in

places not previously experiencing them, in the memory of man. This is already rising alarm and open discussion on

the streets, such that the nightly news has become irrelevant, and the man on the street senses that their leadership is

not leading, but suppressing the truth. The man on the street is looking for an explanation, but none is coming from the news, the government, the church, or anyone in authority. Thus, they go underground, talking to friends, who

invariably have some sense of an inbound Planet X, and ZetaTalk, or similar information. The result of this breaking

away from the given authority, to self-thinking, is that the populace will start their own discussions, break into the

news, and the establishment will become distressed. So, a cover-up with cracks, and an establishment challenged by

the man on the street, asking questions they are not prepared to address.

Third, comes an upsurge of interest in alternative news, Planet X sites such as ZetaTalk and others long researching

this with clear thinking and a history of valid reporting. These will be sought, and transmitted, and given support,

where the establishment news is pushed aside. This is the activity that many sense around the corner, the groundswell

from people sensing that their government is lying to them, the churches irrelevant, and the news suppressed such that

only irrelevancies are reported. Thus, going into the cataclysms, those who have been pushed into the corners, given no

validity by the establishment, will have their day, and be exhausted with the activity. Alternative news sources have

always been harassed, but have survived. They are established routes that have never been suppressed, nor can they

be. Stomping on one creates another, or many others, so the establishment relies on the numbers. If the majority of the

working man watches approved nightly news, and plods along, then the establishment feels they can survive and co-

exist with alternative news, although uneasily.

For those in Europe or elsewhere, where news is not so suppressed, the trend will be primarily the appearance in the

sky of an object, inbound, viewable by amateurs, moving, unexplained by the establishment. To the degree that those

populations can deal with the coming changes, discussions on the news will be allowed. In countries where the

population cannot be saved, such as in Indonesia or India, the news will be suppressed, utterly. The elite feeling that any panic would be a spark to a firestorm, and thus feared. In countries where news in general is suppressed, such as

in the Muslim countries, news of a coming cataclysm will be discussed back alley or back room as today, and not

become a source of panic under the heavy hand of control these populations expect. Many will find relief, in that they

have long sensed changes coming, without acknowledgment by the establishment. For those who wish to deny, this

will be a clue to proceed to solid denial, with spending available cash, and intense partying until the end. For those

who care for and worry about dependents, this will be a clue to take action, take those camping trips or purchase that

houseboat, long planned but an expense deemed outside the reasonable. For those fearing the awakening of the

populace, this will be a clue to retreat to their enclaves, soon to be protected by the military in the US, and elsewhere,

unknown to the public or already protected by the military of the country.

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ZetaTalk: 2002 Trends

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ZetaTalk: 2002 Quickening

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ZetaTalk: 2002 Quickening

Note: written during the May 4, 2002 Live ZetaTalk IRC Session.

In early 1995, when discussion of the coming pole shift began within ISCNI, the focus was on the shift itself and the

new geography afterwards. As those who are planning a trip think of the beach, and what to wear, not of the fatigue

during the road trip or flat tire that might occur. As we have explained, the week of rotation stoppage does not arrive

unannounced. But there are aspects of these predictions not detailed, which are coming apparent the year prior to the

shift. What are some of these aspects?

Plate Shifting

Earthquakes have been predicted by us to increase in frequency and strength going into the shift itself, and this

includes the present time, the year prior to the shift. Earth crust plates that are coming under increasing pressure

will no longer react only with increased quakes, shaking and minor adjustments along the fault lines. The plates

will start to show these signs of increased pressure in their interior. It was noted that black water appeared in the

Caribbean, which we described as dirt freed from overlapping rock layers recently disturbed. Subsequent to this,

a train wreck in Florida occurred, just after the tracks were inspected, and the engineer reported seeing buckled

tracks in front of him. Why did the tracks buckle? The ground not only heaved, it moved sideways, or

compressed, and this will not be the only occurrence of such a train wreck for similar reasons. Plates under

pressure may or may not adjust according to their known or anticipated reactions. Mountain building can occur,

in a small degree, and likewise sudden depression in areas that are subducting. In every plate, there are areas

where the layers of rock are crumbly, not solid, and when this crumbles, anything could happen on the surface,

from a drop to a rise, including shifts in the water table.

Imploding Cities

The ground under cities will experience this too. Urban residents are lulled into thinking that they are safe, the

gas lines capped and water lines tight, electric power trips to keep surges in line. Millions go to work and fall

asleep assured by their leaders that all is in hand, with rescue teams alert and at the ready. In fact, the weak link

is just waiting to break, from a source not anticipated by the city architects. Water lines can snap when the

piping is put under pressure or stretched. Gas lines certainly can experience cracks and snaps. If electrical power

lines, not as insulated as reported, and leaking gas, and water that conducts electricity, are put together, what do

you have? Building with heavy plumbing running up to all the toilets and showers have a sinkhole developing

under them. They will implode. Gas lines leaks set off in an explosion caused by adjustments under a city, will

not just be limited to a building or block, but will ricochet through the city, creating a holocaust potentially.

Some of these potentially can make the World Trade Center disaster look mild. To predict just what soft spot

might adjust, or what fault line might lift, in the year prior to the shift is flirting with our guidelines from the

Council of Worlds which forbids us to warn mankind of specific, immediate, dangers such as quakes.

Weather Extremes

Weather irregularities will continue in the manner we have described since 1995, with increasing swings and

extremes. In that weather irregularities are smoothed, by nature, by increased atmospheric activity or ocean

currents, temperature extremes will not occur. Rather, oscillating extremes, similar to what the world has already

experienced, will occur. Sudden shift to cold weather, sudden unseasonably warm weather, and the like. Crop

shortages and difficulties in growing crops to marketability will likewise follow these weather extremes.

Atmospheric disturbances, beyond those usually encountered and thus watched for by pilots, are occurring. Even

prior to the year before the shift, what is called micro-bursts were being increasingly reported and downed

planes blamed on this. If the weather is moving to extremes, this equates to hotter air masses, colder drafts, and

sudden wind equalizing these air masses. Beyond these problems, airplanes use satellites to guide them, magnetic

orientation to guide them, and these likewise will either fail on occasion or given invalid readings.

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Economic Collapse

Struggling companies, worldwide, will find they must shrink or die and this activity affects the economy

worldwide, with teetering economies collapsing in stages, as we have predicted. Once this process starts, there

will be domino effects, with a rapid collapse of the markets and banks. The barter system will be utilized in the

year prior to the shift, increasingly, even when the monetary system in a country is supposedly secure and

stabilized. The public, seeing how rapidly Argentina went into the toilet, and the glowing terms ascribed to the

banking and Stock Markets of the world, are suspicious. How many Enron's are out there? And knowing that the

public will be the last to hear about a pending collapse, they are thinking how to survive, now, and not waiting

for their leadership to shaft them. There are dozens of Enrons, many with far worse accounting and broader

impact. In fact, our prediction on a Stock Market collapse, wherein the value of today’s stock falls to 1/4 its

current value, will be triggers in the main by revelations of this. These situations have a tenuous hold, now, and

could unravel based on any number of breaks in the dike.

Uptick in Disease

Where we have mentioned increasing illness, from known germs and also those unexpected which are appearing

in new environments, this is taking mankind by shock when it does occur. The fact that doctors are guessing

most of the time when treating illness, and that this has been the case up until the present, is lost on the public as

they have been lulled by the medical establishment into thinking a trip to the doctor will cure them. Honest

doctors admit they are guessing most of the time, trying things, and any confident air is a falsehood to get the

patients to pay up ahead of time. Now that new illnesses, or familiar illnesses in strange places, are occurring,

the public is aghast, but this is in fact the status quo. During the year prior to the shift, this will be in the news

increasingly, an up tick from the present situation.

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Note: written during the Oc 26, 2002 Live ZetaTalk IRC Session. This is an overview of previous predictions with an undate from the Zetas.

Category Earth Changes: stated was an increase in frequency and strength, but underreported and less than a lineal increase due to heating and swelling of the Earth such that plates separate at the edges. Imploding cities due to

infrastructure dropping.

Where those braced for the possibility of a pole shift are expecting massive earthquakes in the months

leading up to the shift, the actual Earth changes will be a movement of the ground, in place, rather than the

jolting of plate movement that causes earthquakes. Quakes will continue to increase, both in frequency and

strength, of course, but this will not be the primary source of devastation. We have predicted imploding

cities, where the infrastructure drops or buckles such that buildings collapse in place, suddenly. Rail line

disasters have occurred where the tracks are suddenly found to have buckled or zagged in place, without

explanation. This is a forerunner of more such episodes, affecting bridges, roadways, the infrastructure of

cities and large buildings, enclosed underground structures, and dams.

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Category Oceans: stated was that tides will increase, whirlpools occur, and continued polar melt due to core warming.

Where ignored lately in the press, the swelling oceans will begin to devastate coastlines and islands such

that they demand attention in the press. This is not entirely due to polar melt, but also to heating of the

oceans and heaving crustal plates that move upward to relieve the press of swirling magma, giving the

oceans less of a bowl to rest in. Coastal cities will find themselves steadily inundated, water in the streets

and sewage lines backed up. Insurance companies will turn their backs on these incidences, created

demands on government to step into the void and provide housing and compensation for private and

corporate victims alike. Refugee camps will be started, and become the intractable norm while the

governments and media downplay the extent of the problem.

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Category Weather/Crop Failure: stated was the erratic weather predicted in 1995, effect on commercial crops, and

underreporting in the media. Depleated stores will result in starving countries being ignored.

As the starving are more easily controlled by oppressors, the increasing starvation around the world will be

less of a factor in riots and turmoil than would be expected. Befuddled thinking, exhaustion that makes

even assuming a standing position difficult, and the inability to muster an assault prevent the starving

from becoming a nuisance to their governments or oppressors, so they are simply ignored. As the wealthy

and elite stock their enclaves, food stuffs will increasingly become scarce, with a lack of options during

shopping the most noticeable result. Until a populace used to thinking that their government has put aside

stores for emergencies find that the stores have long been emptied, there will not be rage, as any hint that

the truth is about to emerge is likely to result in a government sponsored party, as a distraction. Those

countries where the populace is aware that they must depend upon themselves will find more squirreling

away of food stuffs, with soldiers sent into the field to locate and raid these stores.

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Category Populace Reactions: stated was migration increase, seeking better places; increasing illness among humans and animals alike; riots suppressed with brutality; and people seeking solutions in cults, survival groups, or by

becoming virtual slaves of the rich in work camps. Polarization will occur.

With a frantic sense that something is upon them, the human populations of the world, where they have the

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means for mobility and energy to spare, will seek solutions with others. This will not so much be a

reaching out to the governments which are clearly incompetent to address the changes, but in discussions

initiated by individuals, each to the other. Governments will be heard from after tragedies, disasters, and

when bad news must be announced and can no longer be denied or suppressed. They will announce

solutions, work camps or refugee camps, but the takers will only be those hapless souls unable to do

otherwise. Forming groups will in the main squabble, expectations that prior life styles should be

continued slow to change, and will seldom succeed until after the shift, when it is clear what changes are

needed, no argument.

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Category Establishment Reaction: stated was Global Warming used as an excuse until obviously inadequate; media

suppression of news about quakes, crop failures, and rising sea levels; worldwide depression with banks and stock

markets shored up by the establishment to appear otherwise; stock market dropping to 1/4 of its former level; price and

distribution controls; barter system increasing among the populace, while war mongering among the elite to distract the

populace.

When the stock markets crash, the brakes no longer able to be applied and all investors desperately going

for themselves despite instructions from their masters, price controls will be instituted. Somber faced

officials will parade about, imitating the days of the Great Depression, all blaming a source other than

themselves for the disaster. Talk will be the order of the day, with little action. In that the economic

disasters can take the media stage, increasing Earth changes can get pushed aside. This will allow

governments to huddle while they plot to save themselves, the doors closed to their desperate citizenry

who will be told they must allow their governments to cook up solutions, in peace. Thus, when the shift

occurs, the citizenry will find no governments behind closed doors, but absent, long moved to safe

locations, without a word to those they are leaving behind in ignorance.

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ZetaTalk: Debunking Failures

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Note: written during the Jan 18, 2003 Live ZetaTalk IRC Session.

Signs of stress and cracks in the armor of the many factions of the debunking team are showing. This team has many

arms, not all working together, and most only vaguely aware of each other. They are coordinated at arms length by the

establishments, in part by funding from the banking enterprises, highly threatened by the public becoming aware of the

approaching earth changes, by the CIA working on ops not reported to Congress at all, especially since they are

supposed to be working outside of the US, not within, and by NASA. The individuals they support, either with funds

or information or a cheerleading section, are not aware of the other arms, a typical covert activity methodology. The

cracks, so visible recently, are caused by several setbacks:

1. A key astronomer, who had been working on the team, designing alternate explanations and helping to craft

attacks on the ZetaTalk message, quit. He became aware of the plans to deny the public information up to the

end, essentially murdering billions of the earth's populace, or having this effect. He had assumed the cover-up to

be temporary, until the establishment could emerge with plans to inform the public, but found no such plans

being worked on whatsoever. Thus, others stepped in, less competent, and the wrong signals have been given.

2. Wrong signals include Jim Scotti assuming that ZetaTalk was saying that Planet X was at Saturn's orbit, when

regular postings on sci.astro and the web site made it clear, from the start, and consistently, what the distance is.

Having mis-stepped badly at the start, Jim found it hard to regain his footing. This and the assumption the

debunking master had that Nancy was not paying attention to sci.astro postings whatsoever, created a debate

debacle.

3. Failure to closely direct debunkers such as Sarah, aka Silk in the chats, so that she went forth only partly

prepped and made horrendous misstatements about Saturn's visibility, during a public chat. She was supposed to

be expert, an accomplished amateur, had postured herself thus, and such a display pointed out that any

intelligent posting had been fed to her.

4. Failing to gain leadership in the search, which was the intent for John Oliver, aka IMO, during the summer of

2002, when he was encouraging all to look when Orion was in the sun, at the Zeta coordinates, and the public

was to find they could see nothing. This was sabotaged by us, ZetaTalk, in our refusal to provide summertime

coordinates, as nothing could be seen when Orion was in the Sun in any case. IMO thus defeated only himself,

but the plan still existed to gain leadership, so after Jim Scotti declined to stay in the arena, the debunking

master sent in Michael Cunningham and others to say look, its not there!

Well, unfortunately, the debunking master's timing was off, as it was clearly visible by this time, and the web sites

quickly thrown up to grab the leadership role only provided more data, more proof! Thus, a type of hysteria has set in,

with any party willing to be used by the debunking master exhorted to be shrill, do anything, and this is likely to get

worse. Hazlewood is hardly heard about anymore, having failed to capture the public as a Pied Piper, and having been

too obviously in error in his postings about where Planet X was, for instance, seen in the Sun by the Hubble, which

would never be pointed there due to potential and certain mirror damage. McCanny, who went from asserting that

Planet X would not return in 2003 to saying 2003 would happen but it would come from Sagittarius, has discredited

himself. He is a self promoter, enraged when others get the stage, and is fuming that Nancy so casually gets the

attention she does. Thus, they go off to lick their wounds, or sputter about in an obvious manner, and this type of

contradictions and flip-flopping are likely to get extreme, not corrected, as the weeks wend on. If you think this is

interesting, wait until the establishment tries to start explaining the big reddish object in the skies! This is

entertainment!

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Note: written during the Jan 25, 2003 Live ZetaTalk IRC Session.

For the people of Earth, the points they will be concerned with are that it IS going to happen, or not, which they are all

entertaining as a possibility. That it is going to happen will be determined, for many, when the 7 week period begins,

and a reddish object is visible in the daytime sky. The fact that this appears, is where, and when and what we said it would be, will consume their consciousness.

Those who have prepared, have a remote spot to go where clean water and some food from farmlands or

wilderness might be gotten, will still be consumed with regret, grief, indecision as to just when to move to safety

and cut ties with the old life.

Those who have not prepared, have been simply watching and waiting for certain signs or a hoped for failure of

these signs to manifest, indicating a mistake on Nancy's part or a fraud, will go into stunned shock. All that they

have delayed, all the many parts they have failed to put into place, will come to haunt them. They will, in most

cases, be hysterical, rushing about, pleading with others, and making mistakes in their haste.

Those who have not considered will be learning, perhaps for the first time, that this reddish object in the skies

was predicted, by ZetaTalk, and will be reading and absorbing the impact to their lives, with scarcely another

though besides what this will mean to their lives.

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ZetaTalk: Debate

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Note: written during the Jan 25, 2003 Live ZetaTalk IRC Session.

One of the surest ways for parents to get their children to assume responsibility, get involved, is not to be ever-present or overactive. A bit of benign neglect allows a leadership vacuum, and lo, in steps a child who is tired of waiting,

taking up the task! This does more than simply get another to do a task, as once a child starts assuming responsibility, they start to enjoy it, take pride in the outcome, and this action continues. Natural leaders emerge during distressing

times when no leadership seems forthcoming. These leaders may in fact be better than the official leaders, but not wanting to be disruptive, hold back and take support roles instead of assuming leadership. In a void, this social

politeness is not necessary, and a new leader is born! This is all to say that a parent, or leader, wanting more

involvement from the community, can arrange this best by not being utterly involved, answering every question, doing every task, but by being absent.

Now, given the imaging ongoing during the Fall of 2002 and into the early weeks of 2003, how does this apply? The

Sighting TEAM is small, consisting of Steve, Pierre, JWilliam and Naji, in that order joining the TEAM. Nancy

determines what will go on her web site, but has been wanting, and expressing the hope, that many web sites would emerge and many sources of images would emerge, for some months. She is, frankly, tired of the time required on her

part, and the increasing demands for interviews are only going to increase, which should, in her view, be her primary

role. JWilliam and Pierre have their own web sites, often in opposition to what other TEAM members state, or in

opposition to what Nancy and ourselves state, and this has never been a problem.

And why not? From the start of the Fall 2002 viewing season, and even prior to that if one reads the pages in the

Sighting TEAM section, there has been debate and disagreement. This has never been suppressed, despite the hope of

the debunking crowd that the ZetaCult or ZetaDrone title would stick. We, the Zetas, have never asked for more than

that man be informed, and think, and look, and come to their own individual conclusions. This has been stated from day one of ZetaTalk, and is immersed in the body of ZetaTalk, throughout. At the start of the Fall 2002 viewing

season, it was the mode, established by Nancy who is of a like mind with us, to allow the public to see the debate

among the TEAM members. We thus had Jan's candidate, Charles candidate, etc. and at the end of several days of

debate, our opinion. We held off on this opinion to encourage debate, to collect this debate, and it was not only the final Zeta statement that went onto the web, but the debate.

Why? Because this is exactly the type of debate that should be on sci.astro, not endless insults that ZetaTalk is a Nazi or CIA or NASA front, or whatever, insults and adolescent quips that the public long since tired of to the extent that

they no longer read sci.astro directly but go to the ZetaTalk website for a summary of what is worth reading! This was, of course, the reason for the press early last summer to have Nancy put all posting for a thread on her web site, an

obvious organized campaign as the email Nancy received on this matter were form letters, filled in! This is an

immensely important issue, none more important, to mankind at this time. This is in the skies at this time, available to amateurs, and should be the main topic on the sci.astro and related Usenets, not in the grip of paid debunkers, who seem to number only a dozen or so! Where is the public in all of this! Where is the debate! This is what we are trying

to encourage, and if our word on just which spot is it is always quickly forthcoming, then debate is stifled!

Thus, we have increasingly held back, especially since it is evident that the White Persona is on path with the

coordinates, and the Red Persona is subject to bending toward whatever side the core of the Earth is, at the time. Those in the southern hemisphere can figure this out, for them, etc. Likewise, we have allowed Nancy to look foolish, the latest session last Sunday when she shared her bumbling on asteroids with the public, shamelessly. The TEAM,

politely, informed her she was wrong, and she will post this to the web site during her day off tomorrow. This is not

the first time we allowed, encouraged, Nancy to stumble, to show the process, to be egoless in this manner, as this

encourages others to do likewise! The teacher who is perfect, insists they are perfect and cannot make a mistake,

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creates a suppression in the classroom where students are afraid to raise their hand. The teacher who is tolerant of their

own mistakes, the process of exploration, finds the classroom buzzing! Thus, we expect, and hope, that if man is

uncertain, and Nancy is imperfect, that debate will ensue, which it should!

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ZetaTalk: Disclosure

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written October 29, 2009

There is the rumor that Obama will give a speech to the world population on all TV channels on Nov 27.

Anything true in this rumor? What will he speak about?

Disclosure has been gradual, country by We predicted at the start of ZetaTalk that

country, the most recent reported to be

sightings would be on the increase, and

Sweden. This trend will continue. We

they have increased. The major media is

have explained that any mass landing, or now reporting these incidences, allowing

well publicized contact between aliens

the public to see the videos and photos

and humans, will not occur. This is due

and hear the full reports of the witnesses,

to the rule that the Awakening must be

where formerly this was not done. That

gradual, and not induce extreme anxiety

there is a weak protest from some

in the populace. Contactees are on the

government agency, some flimsy excuse

increase, and mass sightings likewise on of what it might be, should be ignored.

the increase. Periodically there are

The public is not fooled. Classified

predictions about some sort of coming

documents will never be released, unless

out where aliens will stride in front of TV discovered blowing in the wind after the

cameras and all will be known. This is

pole shift. But you don't need these to be

not how it will happen.

released to know the truth.

ZetaTalk Prediction 5/9/2009

ZetaTalk Prediction 1/26/2008

The alien presence has been denied for

It is not the difficulty in explaining the

decades, since the time of Roswell, and

alien presence that is holding back full

aggressively so. The individuals who

disclosure. It is fear among the elite that

perpetrated this cover-up are still in the

they will fall from grace, from their lofty

main alive, and do not want egg on their perch. Certainly, an admission that

faces. What would they say to the public, intelligent life exists elsewhere would not

that the common man could not take the

require a full discussion about the

information without going insane or into pending passage of Planet X and its

a panic? This is laughable in view of the potential destruction. But UFOs have

large number of mass sightings which

been called "swamp gas" and the like for

have only resulted in curiosity and

decades with a softening of the stance of

increased desire for contact. To save

most governments only coming about

face, these individuals demand that the

lately because mass sightings have

cover-up continue.

become so common that the cover-up is

ZetaTalk Prediction 5/2/2009

ridiculed by their public.

ZetaTalk Analysis 5/24/2008

As one country after another opened their UFO files, one stood apart - the United States, the country with the most

official information on the existence of the alien presence. During the life of MJ12 the US had extensive contact with

aliens, and examined their ships. The US has relics from that era, including mummified alien bodies. But where the

US has the most to present to the world, has proof positive, they are the also the most reluctant. We have stated, when repeatedly asked about this issue in the past, that such disclosure would deeply embarrass those officials who were at

the forefront of denial over the decades. In that the highly popular and well known ZetaTalk website holds proof of a

kind in the ZetaTalk Accuracy record, there is an additional fear. If the alien presence is acknowledged, then is the

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presence of Planet X and the reality of a pending pole shift also being acknowledged?

Note in the February 14, 2008 report by a French participant of a UN meeting on disclosure, that the Earth changes

were mentioned. It is not just the reaction of the public to the reality of alien visitors that the establishment fears. The

populace is already aware of this from their frequent sightings of UFOs. It is "testimonies of individuals claiming to

have first hand knowledge about UFO's, extraterrestrial life, and future global events" that is to be feared, and these

individuals debunked as "charlatans". What else but the pending pole shift would cause the anticipated "dramatic

economic impact that could lead to recessions in some countries". Mass UFO sightings are already occurring, without

economic impact. Clearly, they fear ZetaTalk, with its international fame and prediction accuracy track record,

disseminated worldwide for over a decade. The Horizon Project boasted NASA and US contractors as members,

purporting the Earth will meet devastation when it aligns with the galactic center. Project Camelot claims to host whistleblowers, those wanting the truth out about the alien presence, hosting Sergeant Major Robert Dean discussing

the coming of Nibiru and his first hand knowledge of UFOs. Are these individual to be treated as "charlatans"?

Will disclosure occur as predicted by various suedo-scientific personalities such as David Wilcock or Richard

Hoagland? Since these individuals earn their living by claiming special insights into the alien presence, they wish to be

on the media bandwagon should disclosure actually become a media event. We are here to inform them that such an

event, predicted to include a White House announcement with an introduction of actual live aliens, will never occur,

and certainly including Wilcock or Hoagland as parties has never been contemplated by the establishment. We have

predicted that it is increasing mass sightings, increasing sightings of alien bodies, that will drive public awareness of

the alien presence. Official disclosure by the US government is highly unlikely to occur, though they may back off

some of their debunking campaigns. ZetaTalk accuracy has only begun to be demonstrated, and this trend will drive

our words into increasing media attention. This is a prediction we have made from the start.

Official Disclosure of Extraterrestrial Life is Imminent

October 21, 2009

http://www.examiner.com/x-2383-Honolulu-Exopolitics-Examiner~y2009m10d21-Official-disclosure-of-

extraterrestrial-life-is-imminent

The impending disclosure announcement follows upon the secret implementation of a year long

openness policy on UFOs and extraterrestrial life. Over the period February 12-14, 2008, the

United Nations held closed doors discussions where approximately 30 nations secretly agreed on a

new openness policy on UFOs and extraterrestrial life in 2009. The openness policy was

implemented but never publicly announced due to threats against UN diplomats not to disclose

details of the secret agreement. The timing would most likely coincide sometime soon after his

Nobel Peace Prize acceptance speech on December 10, 2009 in Oslo, Norway. David Wilcock, a

prominent researcher of emerging scientific paradigms claimed in a Coast to Coast AM radio

interview that "a 2-hour international TV special has already been booked that will introduce an

alien species, similar to humans, to the world." NASA and space researcher, Richard Hoagland

concluded, also on the popular late night Coast to Coast AM radio show, that "LCROSS is part of a

carefully constructed campaign to prepare the populace for imminent disclosure. Which ever of the

above scenarios is used for announcing the existence of extraterrestrial life or technology, President

Obama will figure prominently.

French Expert Publicly Emerges to Confirm Secret United Nations Meeting on UFO's

February 14, 2008

http://exopolitics.org/Exo-Comment-67.htm

A French aviation expert has come forward to reveal his participation in a secret meeting held at

the United Nations New York headquarters that discussed the UFO phenomenon from February 12-

14. Lorant revealed that a series of UN meetings were held over a three day period. In the meetings

there was discussion of a confidential report, prepared by the U.S. Air Force and a branch of the

National Guard, concerning the societal impact of UFO sightings. The initial meeting was held on

February 12 and, according to Lorant's report, led to a request by three U.S. Senators for further

discussions. Additional meetings were held immediately after on February 13 and 14. The

implication is that three U.S. Senators attended the secret UN meetings. The meetings were very

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concerned about social upheaval from continued UFO sightings and the testimonies of individuals

claiming to have first hand knowledge about UFO's, extraterrestrial life, and future global events. It

was reported that adverse public reactions to UFO sightings could have a dramatic economic

impact that could lead to recessions in some countries. 2009 was raised as the year when an

important change in official attitudes concerning the UFO phenomenon could be made. The

meetings results suggest that an official change in government policy from 'debunking' to 'openness'

concerning UFO's would lead to official approval to narrowly define study of the UFO

phenomenon. However, those claiming to have first hand experience of extraterrestrial life would be

targeted as charlatans.

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ZetaTalk: Russia

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Note: written during the Jul 6, 2002 Live ZetaTalk IRC Session.

Russian, as the US, has been in the know since the early days of MJ12, being a partner in space, and brought into the

fold long before the end of the Cold War. Being in space, first, with Sputnik, and Mir, they of course saw space ships

and were well aware of the alien presence many decades ago, without doubt. Thus, they were conferred with, and even

though enemies on the ground, in economic circles, and in culture clashes, at the highest levels they conferred. They

could, should they wish to embarrass Bush, reveal much, but in doing so they would open their own cultures and

economies to panic, thus they stay their hands in this regard. They have been watching Planet X, in their observatories,

with their satellites, and as with NASA and the Pope, seeing our predictions re its path and speed of approach

actualizing.

Thus, they have made their plans too, for a bunker government, a carry-on government. It is no secret that the Urals

will remain well above water, and has been a site of intellectual and scientific personnel for some decades. It is no

secret that members of the Russian government are moving there, increasingly, stocking supplies there, and all this

without explanation to the public, as with Kokomo Indiana in the US. If pressed, they would simply give some

muttered excuse about atomic bombs, or terrorism, or contingencies, all of which sound reasonable.The Urals are

inland, for Russian, above flooding, and since it has become the site of many enterprises in the recent past, a logical

place to increase such activity.

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Note: written during the Jul 6, 2002 Live ZetaTalk IRC Session.

The Catholic Church, long in the know about the possibility of the passage, has also been making their plans. The

Fatima warnings, which they have withheld from their flocks, combined with confessions by high level Catholics

which were relayed to the Pope, have convinced the inner circle around the Pope that this is a likely scenario. They

have two choices, to:

1. inform their flocks and go through the distress with their flocks, and

2. to save their own skins and emerge as leaders of those left living.

They have clearly chosen the latter, in that they announced the Fatima warning as a planned assassination of the Pope,

and are willing to risk the loss of membership in the scandals surrounding the priesthood lately, in preference to

closing the inner circle. Cleansing the church, at this time, would remove too many of the inner circle needed for a

tight cover-up into the end times. Thus, pedophiles are protected, and victims paid off, as the higher priority is saving

the skins of the inner circle. They will not do this in Rome, likely to be a mess of volcanic ash, but will move to a site

as yet undecided. Likely sites are Africa, in places where the church has dominated the local folk, or South America,

in countries where they feel an allegiance with the government. Their expectations that they will be leaders in the

future is of course absurd, but arrogance seldom is realistic. They will be on the streets, with those of their flock they

have abandoned, no better off, and not at all able to deal with the situation. Thus, an ignominious end, to an

ignominious life.

The Catholic Church is unique in knowledge due to the grip of fear they place around those born into the religion.

Confession, without which the poor souls are told they will burn in hell, is mandatory. Those who state that

confessions are confidential are lying, as information deemed important to the Pope, to the inner circle, to maintaining

the wealth of the Catholic church, is passed on. Corporate heads, government heads, in confession, are deemed thus,

and get confession by special priests in many cases. Other religions do not have such information inroads. Given the

information the Catholic Church gained, who said what when, they then had blackmail to learn more, and did gain the

information they sought. Those giving them the information had their confidence, as they had mutual goals:

1. maintain the wealth,

2. maintain control and leadership,

3. save their own sorry skins before those they are responsible for, such as the flock or the public in the case of

governments.

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ZetaTalk: Border Conflicts

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Note: written during the Jul 6, 2002 Live ZetaTalk IRC Session.

Current conflicts around the world, such as the Arab/Israeli or India/Pakistani conflicts, long standing and based on

religion or jealousy or lust for a neighbor's assets, will not go away in the year prior to the shift, but will continue. The difference is that fewer and fewer resources can be allocated to such conflicts. Starvation is increasingly affecting

populations, and crashing economies will do likewise. Thus, we predict an essential standstill, for such conflicts, unless

catastrophes such as floods or quakes create an opportunity for one party to push against another. Giants in isolation,

such as China, will likewise not reduce their isolation, as they control panic or movement in their populace by

restricting information. As they become more insecure, they tighten the noose, a common tactic. We have predicted

that countries will get more isolationist, more focused internally, while at the same time rattling sabers so as to distract their populace.

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ZetaTalk: End Game Postures

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written Jan 25, 2006

I'm Canadian and am somewhat concerned about Canada's new elected conservative government. A

Conservative victory ends nearly 13 years of Liberal Party rule and shifts the traditionally liberal country

to the right on socioeconomic issues such as health care, taxation, abortion and gay marriage. Harper is

expected to renew talks on North American star wars program with the Bush administration. Also, our oil

sands are worth something like 2 trillion dollars at current oil prices, which Cheney recently visited this

last summer. Can the zeta predict how this will all turn out for the Bush Administration, although Canada

just a fly on a elephants back, so to speak.

Our predicted Earth changes have arrived to the extent that they are obvious, and cannot be explained by Global

Warming or other such excuses proffered by the establishment over the years to explain the trends. Weather is

extreme, the swings extreme, 2005 the warmest year on record, the worst hurricane season on record. The number of

active volcanoes 50% higher than only 8 years ago, and rising, with no relationship to Global Warming possible as an

explanation. The Torque Effect we predicted has appeared and is regularly creating stretch zone evidence in the US

and the African Rift area. But where these Earth changes have become obvious, they are only the start. Meanwhile,

humans in the know or deliberately kept unaware are getting increasingly nervous, seeing the trend, and posturing for

the end game.

We have stated that saber rattling would occur as times got tense and restrictions imposed, but little actual warfare as each country would focus their resources inward with war unlikely to bring any relief. That the US will be forced out

of Iraq to attend to its home front and Russia and Iran are using fuel as a political weapon during the intense cold

afflicting the region is typical of end game posturing. The message to the US is 'go home and attend to your home

front', which it will in any case have to do, shortly, due to Earth changes that will devastate the US homeland. Treaties

to share resources will be broken, with scarce resourses kept at home. Restless borders will be watched but not

breached, as each country anticipates turmoil in its own populace, unable to maintain a front when it's back side, the

side open to it's populace, is vulnerable.

Politics within countries will change to lean toward the middle, as extremism will be viewed as yet another instability

the country cannot withstand when quakes and exploding volcanoes and weather nightmares are afflicting it at an

increasing rate. Thus Canada has a conservative Prime Minister who must content with a liberal parliament. Thus the

US can anticipate Congress moving to the left, well ahead of the 2006 elections, to counter an extreme Bush

Administration. Thus Israel will continue to make peace with the Palestinians. And all countries will attempt to

maintain a restless balance where the economic stability of all is allowed as thought the world were holding its breath.

Don't rock the boat. The interrelationship between stock and commodity markets around the world, and banking

enterprises around the world, will be acknowledged, with all countries careful not to create instability.

Individually, the end game postures will be more extreme, as individuals or their families do not have great impact on

the world situation. This one will sell all, getting out of the markets and leaving the lucrative job markets of the cities

and head to the hinterlands, there to be self sufficient when the grid goes down and food shortages start. Another will

take an opposite tack, self indulgence the rule, all funds spent on whims and pleasures as though tomorrow did not

exist, which for this person, it does not as they intend to go out with the shift. We have predicted, as the pole shift

approaches, that people will either prepare with more seriousness or party hard. Corporations, as with countries, will focus inward and attempt to maintain stability during troubled times by cutting expenses and work force. Organized

religion can be expected to preach harder, offering solace or looking for demons, their normal approach simply more

extreme, no change. And to the extent that the media has been extreme, supporting for instance the Bush agenda

because of national security directives, they will, we predict, move toward the middle, with more honest reporting.

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Signs of the Times #1539

Tories win slim minority, Martin steps down, pizza Parliament looms [Jan 24] 'Voters put an end to

12 years of Liberal government yesterday but left the victorious Conservatives under Stephen

Harper with a very tenuous hold on government. The Conservatives eked out a minority government

that will make Mr. Harper, a 46-year-old economist, Canada's 22nd prime minister. Canadians

appeared to be saying they were tired of the scandals that had plagued the Liberals under Mr.

Martin during his 26 months as prime minister.' [and from another] Some activists, politicians

speaking openly about impeachment [Jan 24] 'The word "impeachment" is popping up increasingly

these days and not just off the lips of liberal activists spouting predictable bumper-sticker slogans.

After the unfounded claims about Iraq's weapons of mass destruction and recent news of domestic

spying without warrants, mainstream politicians and ordinary voters are talking openly about the

possibility that President Bush could be impeached. So is at least one powerful Republican senator,

Sen. Arlen Specter, R-Pa., chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee.'

Signs of the Times #1538

As of March 17, 1998 Volcano World listed 53

active volcanoes as of the last 6 years. As of

Jan 18, 2006 there were 82 active volcanoes

listed on that site as of the last 6 years. An

increase of 55% in 8 years. [and from

another] 2005 is warmest year on record for

Northern Hemisphere, scientists say [Dec 16]

http://www.usatoday.com/ 'The Earth's

average temperature reached a near-record

high in 2005, international and U.S. climate

agencies reported Thursday.' [and from

another] 2005 hottest year on record [Jan 4] http://www.abc.net.au/ 'Federal Environment Minister

Ian Campbell says new data showing 2005 was Australia's hottest year on record is further evidence

of climate change.' [and from another] The 2005 season is finally over [Jan 7]

http://www.weather.com/ 'The amazing 2005 Atlantic hurricane season has shattered many long-

standing records, chief among them a record number of named storms, twenty-seven, which has

obliterated the previous record of twenty-one in 1933. There also have been 14 hurricanes so far

this season breaking the old record of 12 set in 1969. Another record set was for the most category-

five hurricanes, three, with Katrina, Rita and Wilma. Wilma became the strongest hurricane on

record in the Atlantic Basin with a pressure of 882 mb breaking the old record set by Gilbert (888

mb) in 1988.' [and from another]

Recently South Dakota has begun a regular daily shimmy, at a time when the S Pole comes over the

horizon to where Planet X can grab it. The Torque Effect, evident. [Note: not Global Warming when

the volcanoes are participating and Face/Dark global quakes and evident Torque Effect is

continuing!]

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ZetaTalk: Last Year

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Note: written during the Jul 6, 2002 Live ZetaTalk IRC Session.

The year before the shift will find humanity in varying states of readiness for what is to come. Humanity breaks down

at this point into those who know, or at least suspect, and those who are unaware. Those who are unaware are so

because they are struggling for a living more than full time, and barely keep up with whether their country is at war,

much less what would be considered gossip. They either do not have TV, or have no energy to think deeply about

matters after a long day toiling, so will be taken by surprise in the weeks before the shift. In these cases, they will take

the shift as any other exigency, like a hurricane or dread illness or accident, and simply react in like manner. Unless

young, strong, in good health, and lucky, they will not survive. This is especially true if they do not hear about the pole shift, with tides and winds, as they will have no way to calculate what to do, and will be taken by surprise.

Those aware will fall into two groups, in the main.

1. those who had very early knowledge, due to MJ12 membership or a leak from these sources.

2. those who learned due to communication methods at least a year in advance of the shift, the likely passage and

past geological history to support such a theory.

Those with very early knowledge have been preparing, and are now only concerned with hiding their preparations

from the mob, preserving them for the elite. This includes the elite within the Bush administration planning to go into

their bunkers if they cannot escape to Mars, British elite who plan to go to Australia, and Russian elite going into the

Urals. This path is well known and anticipated. They will guard their perimeter with military, and shoot civilians

trying to reach them for aid. Wealthy elite also are in the know, and have their enclaves established, stocked, and are

where they can be found today, their remote resort areas, and will meet their demise in time as the starving mob will

hunt them out in those well known places.

Those who are aware of the likely passage, at this time, are divided further into those with the capacity to plan and

those without. Those with the capacity to plan are getting camping gear, water filtration, buying vitamins and beans

and rice and protein powder, and connecting with others of like mind. Unless prevented by something unforeseen, like

being wiped out by fire, their plans are likely to proceed and in the main get them through the first few months, at

least. Those unable to plan or prepare are doing so emotionally, preparing for death or starvation and in the main being

remarkably mature. Almost no panic in the streets has arisen since the word of Planet X passing has become a common

discussion point, in outlets such as Art Bell. Most people entertaining the possibility have one foot in the real world of

today, supported by their religion and government and society, and the other in the possible world where ZetaTalk and

Planet X predictions are true. Thus, they have not sold their homes, their cars, quit their jobs, moved to the woods, or anything that drastic. Unless they have enough money to build a shelter, well stocked, they have at most put together

plans, and these plans are yet to be implemented.

Will anything occur this last year to prevent those plans from being implemented? Yes! A collapsing economy, lost

jobs, lost income, stocks and bonds proving worthless, insurance industry unable to compensate for increasing quakes

and weather problems, etc. Thus, even those who have prepared, to the extent they have, may find themselves losing

ground. What to do? All should plan, and at least mentally prepare, for being without any material possessions

whatsoever. Where does this put the average person who has prepared, and has the health to life in the Afterime, and

knowledge of what they will be facing?

1. they may have to sleep in the open, rather than under shelters, so should plan to be able to cobble together a

shelter from the woods or junk at hand, as well as clothing.

2. they may have to eat what they can find, and should familiarize themselves with what that might be, and what

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cooking or eating methods are to be used.

3. they may have to drink whatever water they can find, and should consider no filters or electricity or fire

available, and how to purify the water in those circumstances.

If one makes those mental preparations, then they are prepared for the worst. As matter are likely only to get worse in

all lives, this last year, not better.

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ZetaTalk: Organized Religion

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Note: written Dec 15, 1996.

One of the big and early losers during the Transformation will be the organized religions of the world. They are

already losing membership, though this is rarely reported, and anxiety is gripping those in the corridors of power as a

result. The Catholic religion has long experienced depletion of their ranks in the United States, and as entrenched as

Catholicism is in South America, this continent is not far behind. The trend toward tolerance and open mindedness

does not incline one toward rigidities and the acceptance of authority that organized religions rely upon. Where there

are enclaves of control, as within Islamic states, the rest of the world has shown a steady trend toward free thinking

and independence from the mandates that organized religions impose.

What does this mean for the church? Shrinking membership means shrinking profits, but for many organized religions

this does not represent a pinch as the numbers interested in devoting their lives as free workers to an organized

religion are also shrinking. The Catholic church has long had a much underreported exodus from the priesthood and

nunneries, and other religions with rigid doctrines have experienced similar trends. The ranks grow older and new

members from the youth of society join less often. In many enclaves of the devout, there are none but the old, and the

entire establishment will close when the geriatric members die off. Thus, where the corridors of power are still filled

with the same iron grip of the power hungry, the empire they rule continues to shrink.

Thus, in those rare instances where church and state merge, such as some Islamic states, the church can do naught but

fret. Changing the message to one of tolerance fools few and actually raises more suspicions than it dampens. For the

Catholic church to accept the concept of evolution, when it tortured scores of humans during the inquisition for free

thought now routinely accepted by the scientific community, is considered hypocrisy, which it is. No one is fooled, and

if anything these false maneuvers turn away those who looked to the church for a sense of continuity and security.

Even where church and state have temporarily merged, this is subject to change, and can suddenly be upset so that the

church is again reliant upon the diminishing faithful.

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ZetaTalk: Wealthy Elite

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Note: written Sep 15, 1999.

The wealthy elite are sitting on top of the pile and are not interested in losing this position. They have heard, either

through innuendo or through their own paid research, that the coming cataclysms are very real. They try to imagine

where they’ll be if the banks aren’t solid and they can’t just snap their fingers and order the services they need and

intimidate people based on their money. Heaven forbid they should be leveled to the rest of the populace and have to

grovel and scratch! They can’t have that! They are trying to figure out what they can do. In the past they could rely on

the court system, which is in the main their friend, or large corporations which can threaten to fire or harass those

failing to cooperate with the wealthy elite. And of course they have bought politicians right and left.

What are they to do if all of this is aside, and they are just standing there with their useless paper money and their

store of goods? Even if they hire people to guard them, that only goes so far. One can have 50 people with assault

weapons guarding the perimeter, but depending on what comes at you this may be inadequate. A sheer force of

numbers can spill bodies until the guards are overwhelmed, and then the horde is at the gate. So the wealthy elite

worry about situations like Mexicans traveling north, the city of LA emptying and charging up into the mountains or

going into Utah, into the enclaves there. They sit around and speculate about where to create blocks and prevent that

from happening.

This is what contrails really represent. The victims routinely feel very fatigued, ill, like one does if they are suffering

from the flu - they can’t move, can’t run, and thus they have been slowed down. Contail induced illness does not kill

the victim, it slows them down. The wealthy elite are determining just how effective this is, and finding that it is an

effective weapon.

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ZetaTalk: Paper Promise

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written Sep 17, 2004

There are many rumors of a financial meltdown especially in October. The Zetas have predicted this in

past statements. Do they want to comment about the next 30 days or so as to what economically may

unfold?

The banking system or any paper money system is built on confidence, confidence that a note will

be paid out in something solid, something other than a paper promise, which is what all money

systems and bank notes are. Centuries past, when the world was operating primarily on the barter

system, such promises were few and were backed by gold or silver, or land, or a herd of horses or

cows, something solid. Villages and towns, farmers and those in the trades, all operated primarily

by barter, a cabinet built by a carpenter and payment in a quarter of a slaughtered hog, a bushel of

apples getting a tooth pulled by a dentist. Financial sophistication developed slowly, based on the

growing confidence that the backer of a money system, a paper promise, could be counted upon to deliver something

solid. Thus it was, until recently, that gold was considered the backing. When the press to use paper money to support

a debtor economy ran beyond the supply of gold, the money systems were taken off the gold standard. In the past, a

creditor could put his house and property up as backing for a loan, his herd, perhaps even his pending harvest of

wheat, but could not get credit unless he had something solid as collateral. But today it is the norm for every person, without substance to his name, to have access to credit cards that allow him to go into debt beyond his ability to repay.

The creditor is given credit on the assumption that he will repay. The funds he is loaned are assumed to have worth.

And all pass paper promises around as though these were based on things that could be brought forth upon demand.

As can be seen when whole countries default on the paper money they float out under their

flag, the value of a dollar can collapse quickly. Argentina is a case in point, the money

becoming worthless almost overnight. In days past when banks and paper money were closely

tied to things, such a panic would result in the banks who had loaned money to farmers

demanding payment in things, and any who deposited savings in the banks demanding payment in things, so that at

the end of the shuffle those having made savings deposits would find themselves with a herd of cattle or some acreage,

rather than paper money. When money became unhinged from solid backing, speculation crept in, resulting in inflated

stocks, loans without collateral, a pyramid scheme that is a house of cards that would collapse with few left after the

shuffle with anything solid in their hands. Most would be left holding worthless notes, uncollectable, standing atop a

deep pile of bankruptcies. During the Great Depression, it was no secret that banks were in default, farmers and

corporations bankrupt, but this was ignored as demanding payment that could not be produced would only put

properties and empty buildings in the hands of banks who could not sell them as the market itself was dead. So a

bankrupt status was ignored, and all floated along until life came back into the system and payments began to be made

again, extension after extension made. This is what is occurring today, among countries and creditors and banking

entities, to avoid a breach of confidence that would start a panic in the world at large. Say nothing, make no demands

for payment in things, give extension after extension, and the house of cards, built on paper promises, stands. This

assumes cooperation among all parties, and where this is holding today, as it did during the Great Depression, there is

a difference.

During the Great Depression, the world was not beset with natural disaster after natural

disaster, as is starting to occur today. Commerce, trade, was reduced due to lack of confidence

but at the base, the economies were solid and recovery followed renewed confidence. Today,

all countries are in a crisis affecting their base economies. We mentioned that Crop Failure

would follow the irregular weather, and it did. But buildings collapsing in earthquakes, trains

running off suddenly twisted tracks, factories exploding as gas lines breach, and storms tearing at coastlines without

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remorse do more than represent an opportunity to rebuild. They represent insurance companies unable to pay for

rebuilding, factories laying off workers or unable to function, and distribution of goods blocked. In other words,

paralysis, rather than a fever of economic activity, results. When those at the top of the financial pile, or those whom

they command, see the structure starting to become a pile of bankruptcies likely to tie up their ability to reach down

and grab a thing, so they will not be left with worthless paper promises, all want to move first in order to get a thing before the other financial giants beat them to it. They are holding notes, and at the base these notes translate to land,

buildings, inventories, oil deposits, ships, food stocks, herds, and virtual slavery of those who cannot pay but need to

eat and have shelter. Indentured servitude, returned. We have mentioned that the pending pole shift has resulted in

Leveling Wars between the Puppet Masters and their restless Puppets seeking to become opportunists during times

when their masters might be unable to retain control. These wars will result in the pact of cooperation between creditor

countries and corporations and those who own them cracking. Fail to cooperate and I’ll call your notes due, and while

you struggle under a rain of failures I will pluck what I wish from the pool and emerge owning you once again, but

with you wasted and discredited, is the threat.

Thus, where banks default because those they have loaned money to are going into bankruptcies, and where at base

this is due to collapsing economies struggling with the effect of the current Earth changes, natural disasters, there is

also the element of warfare among the Puppet Masters and their Puppets. To the extent that the rebellious Puppets are

the political power in a country, that country may find itself fiscally undermined and corruption within that power

structure exposed. To the extent that the rebellious Puppets are corporate heads, those corporate heads will find

themselves unable to get the loans they need to continue, and forced into bankruptcy court. To the extent that a Puppet

Master, and there are many, senses that the enemy is another Puppet Master, the property holdings of that Master will

be undermined, whether this includes a country, a corporation, or financial holdings such as bonds. Watch closely,

during this war of the titans in the financial realm, and you will see the swords flash and parry.

Signs of the Times #1119

BofA isn't likely to face big losses [Sep 14] Bank of America Corp. is a major lender and a credit

card partner with US Airways, but does not look to be a big loser in the airline's bankruptcy filing.

[and from another source] The ongoing economic/financial collapse continues. The world's central

banks have been in discussion, since Sept. 11, 2001, about this onrushing problem. Internally,

secretly, many banks are going into bankruptcy, and the people who know about this do not want

this information to come to the surface into the public. Part of this scandal has to do with one or

more of the following: the housing market, derivatives and/or an immense default by someone or

company or country! It is all linked to the banks. http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?

read=55620 [and from another source] Lots of significant economists agree that there is a major

major correction coming. Citibank is one most at risk. Soros, Buffet and Gates are investing for a

crash. [and from another source] Letś see if we can name some of the chief variables to the

economy. Inflation, recession, real estate bubble burst, derivative market, stock market, bond market

(the world stops buying bonds), and the list goes on and on. We’re on the knife edge and its only a

matter of time. [and from another source] Lets see, the various Airlines are laying of 10,000 people.

ESD is laying off 15,000 nationwide and a lot of Banks are consolidating or over their heads in

Monopoly Money.

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ZetaTalk: Economic Collapse

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Note: written Dec 15, 1996.

The world banks are justified in their constant fretting about the health of their industry during the panic that will

occur going into the cataclysms. The worth of paper money is a fragile thing, based more on confidence than anything,

paper money can plunge in value overnight, and often does in unstable countries where printing more paper money is

seen as the solution to underfunding of government ambitions. History has shown that banks and the value of the

dollar fall during economic depressions, and the years preceding the coming cataclysms will see crop failures in the

face of atypical weather and intractable droughts, insurance company failure due to weather and earthquake severity,

and a general lack of confidence.

In the face of lack of faith in the paper money system the world banking community has come to rely upon, there will

be a return to the simple method of barter - you give me a bushel of apples and I’ll give you two gallons of milk.

People long reliant upon credit and shopping will begin to lower their debt and begin to rely upon themselves, leaving

the banking industry without customers. This will of course create a panic of sorts within the banking industry, which

like organized religions are seeing their economic base shrinking. One can expect anxious maneuvers like forced

participation and alliance with various large corporations, but this is only a stop-gap measure and such maneuvers will

be challenged. Most people, if speaking truthfully, express only resentment for their bankers, who are seen as a

parasite on the backs of the working folk.

Note: below written during the September 7, 2002 Live ZetaTalk IRC Session.

We have predicted a collapsing economy, to the degree that it would drop to 1/4 of its strength as it stood at the end of

1999. It is not there yet, and will continue to fall, each country’s problems impacting the others, each failing company dragging others down. During the Great Depression and Stock Market crash, people in fact did not die because of the

lack of strength in the economy, but lived more simply. Of course, there were the elite who jumped out window rather

than face the horror of living a simple life and actually working for a living, but we are not considering these in our

statement above. We are here talking about the innocents of the world. During the Great Depression, banks failed but

were not called to account, mortgages late by foreclosure in the main not done, and all rode until times got better, in

the main. There are stories about failures, foreclosures, families losing homes and farms, but the vast majority simply

looked the other way and rode it out. Why foreclose when there are no buyers? Why close the doors of the bank,

revealing a failing, when other banks are in the same stance?

The barter system emerges, people working for each other on a day by day basis, for food or an exchange of goods.

We anticipate a real impact where storms and quakes take out cities, insurance companies fail, and the government

must step in or the homeless population increase. Those countries where the population is allowed to die, starve, get

diseased and lay by the roadside in this state, will simply continue this practice. Those countries where the government

is expected to step in and rescue tax payers thrown into this state will muster forth troops, supplies, and mostly

promises. Thus, families will be thrown on the good graces of their neighbors, the extended family, co-workers, or

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philanthropic individuals. This is a precursor to the situation that will exist after the shift, so get used to it.

Note: below written during the October 5, 2002 Live ZetaTalk IRC Session.

Control of the Stock Market is under the control of money managers more than is understood. Where is it assumed that

the public controls stock selloffs, as they can supposedly request that their brokers sell or buy, most stock is in the hands of money managers who cannot have this bidding done by the public. 401K funds, for instance, are seldom

given the right to demand buy or sell, with only a portion of the control given to the holder. Thus, money managers,

under the hand of elite, who hire them and can fire them, are told not to sell, even with bad indicators, or even to buy when the indicators would say otherwise. Thus, the market is still artificially upheld, but panic will eventually take

over. What would case the panic? Money managers who do not have a profit stream to maintain their staff, their

payroll, will eventually override the requests from above, and sell. The need to simply survive, to meet payroll, and

greed, the desire to have a quarterly profit bonus delivered, will cause individual actions that bump into each other,

causing what we will call a plunge. Since this is so much in the hand of man, we cannot predict days, nor do we

consider this a priority as money is not where your concerns should be. Not being materialists, but concerned about the

suffering of the innocents of the world, we think this a misplaced focus!

Note: below written during the Jan 11, 2003 Live ZetaTalk IRC Session.

We predicted some months ago, toward the Middle of 2002, when the Stock Market swings were extreme from day to

day, that the brakes had been lost and the Market could collapse suddenly. There are many forms for these brakes to

take, and following that July dip, the market has held steady in spite of nothing but bad indicators, worldwide. How is

this happening, when layoffs continue, bankruptcies continue, public confidence low and buying at a virtual standstill

Disasters such as planes dropping from the sky, decreasing use of the air for travel, train derailments, increasing

business and insurance losses, and increasing illness. Whole cruise ships get ill, and pull into port in an attempt to

sterilize the ship. Military bases take sick, with common illnesses such as Strep Throat. no country is leading as the

engine to pull the world out of what is now being termed a recession, but which in fact is a depression, akin to 1929.

Starvation is rampant worldwide, in countries already affected but where new, not announced in the media.

Immigration is a concern of countries deemed strong, such as the US and Australia, so that repressing immigration has

become brutal. How can it be, then, that the US Stock Market is rising, or stays steady, during increasing problems?

Each quarter, the projections are made such that the next will do better, indicators high, the trends turning about! These are false indicators, but who would know this? How many are privy to the facts from which such pronouncements are

made? It was stated that the 2002 Christmas season would be a boon for retailers, but only when Christmas was upon

them did they announce the results, a bust. It is now being announced that many business are starting to refurbish their inventories, and how many in the general public are privy to this information? Each factory worker knows that

inventory is down, and no plans to refurbish, and layoffs planned, but assume this is just their company, their industry, their locale. This is not more true than the rosy Christmas shopping projections, but the truth will be delayed for

months, if possible. In the US, insurance was increased, to be backed by the US government in cases where terrorism

is involved. Likewise, the Bush Administration is bribing Wall Street, by promising and pushing for such legislation

that the wealthy individuals, the public in general, would rush to buy stocks! No double taxation of profits! Stocks the best buy for all! In analysis of the impact, this does zero for the economy, as funds would not go to those who could make purchases, the profits delayed for at least a quarter, but Wall Street would be awash in eager buyers! The effect?

Analysts, the money managers who do not sell when they think they ought, like the good little go-alongs they are, are

being rewarded. As this is in the hands of man, it cannot be predicted with certainty how this will play out. Stocks

now are being held up by the money managers who are under directives not to sell, at threat of loss of jobs or worse.

What will be the trigger bringing this house of cards down? It most likely will be Earth changes affecting corporations

that need to access their funds, such as a subsidiary affected by a quake needing rescue. A warehouse collapsed, the

inventory needing to be extracted and moved, key employees needing relocation. The Board of Directors looks over

the situation, and the only source of funds is their stock portfolio, and they sell! Multiply this several thousand times, and a panic of selling could occur. This can be stopped, the Market closed, but this is an obvious move. We have

predicted some years ago, in late 1999, that price fixing, a freeze, might occur. But if the Earth changes are wide

spread, across the West and East coasts of the US and Canada, for instance, affecting simultaneously the UK and

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western Europe, as well as Japan, this might be out of control. Thus, is it not manmade happenstance that will create

the panic, but the Earth changes that will not stop, that could.

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ZetaTalk: Market Crash

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written October 11, 2008

Markets Routed in Global Sell-off [Oct 6]

Stock prices collapsed around the world on

Monday amid growing fears that the credit

crisis would trigger a global recession. The

FTSE Eurofirst 300 index had its third worst

day ever, plunging 7.75 per cent, as France's

CAC 40 slumped 9 per cent, its second worst

day on record. In London, the FTSE 100

suffered its biggest one-day points loss. The

Dow Jones Industrial Average closed down

3.6 per cent at 9,955.50 after falling as much

as 7.75 per cent, to 9,525.32, during the day.

Trading was temporarily stopped in some major emerging economies, including Russia, where the market

fell by just over 19 per cent, and Brazil, where stocks fell as much as 15 per cent before closing 5.4 per

cent lower. Earlier, Japan's benchmark Nikkei 225 index plunged 4.3 per cent to a 4½-year low. Jakarta

suffered a 10 per cent drop.

Frantic to avoid the mistakes made during the Great Depression, central banks and governments around the world are

pumping liquidity into their banking systems - inflation dangers be damned. Will this work? It can't hurt, but the

overall cycle will not change. Where this current cycle is blamed on the subprime mortgage mess, the big lie where

mortgage backed securities were packed with sure-to-fail mortgages but labeled as prime mortgage securities, there

were many other causes for this economic downturn. We stated almost a decade ago that the world was heading into a

depression, and this was based on an analysis of what business had to deal with as the Earth changes started to bite.

For one, crop failures were about to occur, caused by the erratic weather, swings of drought and deluge, rainstorms

drowning crops and intractible droughts frying crops beyond the hope of recovery. Frosts come late and warm winters

mocked an early spring, destroying crops such as tree fruit and winter wheat. The effect is an increased price of food,

worldwide, due to shortages and the need to replant and pay higher insurance premiums. Money spend on food is

diverted from other commodities, squeezing markets.

Second, physical damage to business and industry during earthquakes and storms have been on the uptick. Snapping

fuel and chemical delivery lines caused factory explosions, city streets imploded when steam vents were broken, and

buildings slumped into sinkholes. Where this has been treated as individual disasters by the media, rather than a trend,

the effect of this steady drip of disaster on business and industry is expense so that bankruptcies are on the increase.

This then results in job loss - unemployment and loss of a tax base.

Third, the Bush administration deliberately bankrupted the US in order to support their oil grab in the Middle East.

They knew the pole shift was coming, but did not have a firm date other than our White Lie stating that the pole shift

would occur "shortly after May 15, 2003". Thus, the invasion of Iraq just months ahead of that date. Their

determination to remain in Iraq, to eventually invade Saudi Arabia and Iran, created a massive financial drain on the

US. By spending on the war in Iraq, the Bush administration was not spending on boosting the US economy. Job loss

and bankruptcies continued, ignored.

Fourth, the housing bubble, deliberately promoted by the Republicans and the Bush administration in order to confuse

the world and especially the American people about the financial state of affairs. To maintain the war in Iraq, a façade

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of financial health was needed so the American people would not rebel. In the short term, the construction industry

boomed. But all bubbles burst, and when they do the impact is worse than what was gained because it takes a long

time to regain confidence, a necessary ingredient for a humming economy which is essentially based on trust.

Despite the steps taken to encourage business and industry, to provide capital, and to provide new job starts, the

underlying problems with Earth change disasters and the expense of merely putting food on the table will continue. A

wise leader can turn this tide by encouraging alternative energy from wind, food from family gardens and cheap

protein from fish ponds, and public service by unemployed youth. These steps make for a smoother transition to the

survival communities of the future, after the pole shift. The drop from the boom times of the past, when Wall Street

was king and living on hot air, will continue. Deflated, the world will have to address the true state of affairs, or at

least will be forced in this direction.

Markets Routed in Global Sell-off

October 6 2008

In Iceland, the currency fell 30 per cent.

British Banks Lead Europe Markets Lower

October 7, 2008

The Australian dollar slumped by nearly 10 percent Monday.

Retirement Accounts Have Lost $2 Trillion

October 7, 2008

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/07/retirement-accounts-have_n_132737.html

Americans' retirement plans have lost as much as $2 trillion in the past 15 months _ about 20

percent of their value _ Congress' top budget analyst estimated Tuesday as lawmakers began

investigating how turmoil in the financial industry is whittling away workers' nest eggs. More than

half the people surveyed in an Associated Press-GfK poll taken Sept. 27-30 said they worry they will

have to work longer because the value of their retirement savings has declined. The fear is well-

founded. Public and private pension funds and employees' private retirement savings accounts - like

401(k)'s - lost about 10 percent between the middle of 2007 and the middle of this year, and lost

another 10 percent just in the past three months, he estimated.

British Banks Lead Europe Markets Lower

October 7, 2008

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/081007/world_markets.html

European stocks shed early gains Tuesday as ongoing fears about the health of the banking system,

particularly in Britain, offset hopes that the world's leading central banks will follow Australia's

lead and cut interest rates aggressively. RBS was not the only British banking stock in trouble amid

news reports that the chief executives of Britain's largest banks met up with British Treasury chief

Alistair Darling and Bank of England governor Mervyn King Monday night to discuss the possibility

of the government providing funding in exchange for stakes in the banks. The Reserve Bank of

Australia surprised markets when it slashed its key rate a full percentage point to 6 percent -- its

biggest cut since 1992.

Fed Joins 5 Central Banks - Cuts 1/2 point and Cites 'Intensification' of Crisis.

October 8, 2008:

http://money.cnn.com/2008/10/08/news/economy/fed_move/index.htm

The Federal Reserve, working in coordination with other central banks worldwide, enacted an

emergency interest rate cut. The Fed lowered its fed funds rate by a half percentage point to 1.5%.

The central bank's statement said the move was necessary because of the worsening crisis in global

financial markets. The fed funds rate is the central bank's main tool to affect the economy. Lowering

the rate pumps money into the economy by reducing the borrowing cost on a broad range of loans,

including credit cards, home equity lines and many business loans. The moves were made in

coordination with other central banks around the world including the European Central Bank and

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Bank of England. The Swiss, Canadian and Swedish central banks also made cuts.

Markets Routed in Global Sell-off

October 6, 2008

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/c9a27b24-93d1-11dd-b277-0000779fd18c.html

Across Europe, governments followed Germany's weekend move to guarantee retail savers' deposits,

with similar steps taken in Denmark, Sweden and Austria.

Germany Takes Hot Seat as Europe Falls into the Abyss

October 6, 2008

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/comment/ambroseevans_pritchard/

Chancellor Angela Merkel has been forced to pull her head out of the sand, guaranteeing all

German savings, a day after she rebuked Ireland for doing much the same thing. During the past

week, we have tipped over the edge, into the middle of the abyss. Systemic collapse is in full train.

The Netherlands has just rushed through a second, more sweeping nationalisation of Fortis. Ireland

and Greece have had to rescue all their banks. Iceland is facing an Argentine denouement.

Federal Reserve Unveils Short-Term Loan Plan

October 7, 2008

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/07/federal-reserve-considers_n_132501.html

To help ease credit stresses, the Fed announced Monday it will provide as much as $900 billion in

cash loans to banks. Most of the loans are for 28-days and 84-days. Some are shorter, 13-day and

17-day loans.

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ZetaTalk: NESCARA

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Note: written during the Jan 7, 2003 Live ZetaTalk IRC Session.

NESCARA [National Economic Stabilization And Recovery Act] is a concept only, being floated out to determine

interest in such a concept by the establishment who is aware that the common man will increasingly experience

personal loss, and become increasingly desperate.

Taking the US as an example, the Fed has cut interest rates to a low not experienced since WWII, and is

practically giving away money.

Bush and the GOP, against their usual inclinations to support only the rich and powerful, have decided to allow

federal funds to be paid to the unemployed, who have recently run through their compensation and are now

without weekly checks of any kind.

The economic indicators are all down down down, though the "experts" pronounce otherwise, with one company

after another going belly up or laying off workers.

Workers from private to government jobs are taking pay cuts or declining wage increases, even when warranted

by cost of living increases, in order to retain their jobs at all.

The Stock Market, maintained under tight control by money managers given firm orders not to sell but to buy, is

floating where it is only because of a monumental control efforts, and would crash if neglected for a day.

The public did not buy for Christmas, in spite of promises in the media that this would be a big spending year,

and as soon as 4Q results are in, the stocks will start plunging again.

Bankruptcies are at a record high, and will soon overwhelm the courts.

What can the establishment do to forestall panic, riots, placards waved in the air over angry heads in front of the White House, a story that would surely get in the news somewhere, in spite of media control, and the cat out of the bag.

Would the public buy that some general amnesty was about to be issued? Would they even consider such a concept? If

rumors were to circulate, on the Internet, would this get around, get mentioned at coffee houses, at bars, at the

workplace? If so, then such rumors are worth floating, if not, then another tack needs to be taken.

NESCARA was such a test ground, and determined that where this was highly attractive to the man on the streets,

none of whom are without debts, it was deemed impractical by any but the most childish. Who would buy that banks

would forgive all debts? This is how they make their living. Who would buy that politicians would resign? They fight

tooth and nail to get into politics, where they are in the power structures, on the stage, and must be pried away from

this life, in the main. And how to adjust the inequities? If one man owes another a debt, is this not absolved, while

debts to the banks are? Where is the line drawn? Rent past due? Home ownership recently arranged forgiven the same

as home ownership one payment from completion? The concept is ludicrous, when examined as to workability, and

after an initial perk of interest, soon falls into this type of discussion on how it would be implemented. Thus, the

establishment has determined that other means, such as frank payment of unemployment benefits, an extended

coverage, needs to be done.

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ZetaTalk: New World Order

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ZetaTalk: New World Order

Note: written by Jul 15, 1995

There is much discussion in the world of UFOlogy and beyond about the New World Order and various establishment

elites who want to remain in control during and through troubled times. They are on top now, and want to remain

there. They fear social unrest in the extreme. Any alternative to losing their control is acceptable, and the misery of

others is the least of their concerns. These elites can be members of a government who enjoy power and influence due

to their authority, the wealthy who enjoy an easy life and can generally buy their way out of troubles, corporate heads

who are used to the concept that they command, military leaders who can't imagine anyone else in charge, religious

leaders who fear to stand alone in the world not clothed in the reverence people cast their way, and any others in a

particular position of power, for whatever reason. As being an elitist is an attitude, not all in these categories, of

course, are elites. Just what the establishment groups are called, and who the current members are, is not as important

as the issues and trends. We are telling you that names can change, and membership can change, but if you know them

when you see them, gauging them by their motives and behavior, then you will be well guided.

What is their behavior, and how can their motives be discerned? Essentially, anything that spreads the truth and

educates people, allowing them to make their own decisions, is not what the elites desire. Therefore, vehicles like

books, telephone connections, open correspondences, and most certainly the Internet give people information freedom,

not what the elites desire, but matters like book burning, communications strictures, and censorship show the heavy

hand of the elites. Independence is another worry of the elites. Where people can grow and market their own crops, set

their own prices, and travel about they are given freedom from repression, not what the elites desire, but where they

fear to move else they starve, and are not given travel permits anyway, this shows the heavy hand of the elites. Those

attempting to establish the New World Order seek to keep man ignorant, but most importantly they seek to keep man

nervous and despairing. They equate to the parent who tells their child that no one else would want them, the better to

control the child who fears abandonment. They equate to the husband who tells his wife she is undesirable, the better

to control the wife who may be thinking of leaving him. They equate to repressive governments who tell their citizenry

that other countries would brutalize them, the better to prevent emigration.

Therefore, watch where these practices crop up, and do not be dissuaded by clever covers for controlling motives.

Democracies do not tolerate the methods that the elites wish to use, and provides weapons for pushing back when these

repressions are attempted. The vote, the city council, the petition - use these effectively, and be on guard lest your

freedoms be taken away piece by piece.

Who are those attempting to establish the New World Order? The banking industry, first and foremost, as finances are

such a fragile thing. Finances are built only upon faith. In fact, they have no substance whatsoever. All those high paid

salaries - poof! All that chatter about the value of this stock or that, the carefully monitored stock and bond listings, it

is all just so much hot air. They are talking about nothing. They fear the populace will wake up to that. One must

realize that bankers and stock brokers and bond dealers do not have alternative professions. There are only so many

accountants employable, and most work for little pay and under pressure to be exacting. Who needs overpaid hot air

bags? What would happen to their world if people stopped thinking that their hard earned savings were safe and secure

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in their hands? The crash of 1929, for one. Bankers jumping out of windows, as the thought of having to do an honest

days work was just to much to bear.

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ZetaTalk: World Government

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ZetaTalk: World Government

Note: written Apr 15, 1997.

During the development of any society there is always a push for total control. This urge for total control affects the

range that the individual or society can reach - the world as that person understands it. This urge for total control starts

at the family level, with siblings vying to control the toys and attention of the parents, or the female members of the

group vying to capture the favors of the dominant male, or the males vying to be considered the head of household.

I'm in charge, is the cry. I run the show! Peace is not established until, in each situation, the issue is settled. Due to the number of fights among children, or squabbles among family members, it might seem that the issue is never settled,

but in truth this is usually the expression of resentment, not direct challenges to the established order. Most often the

oldest child rules the younger siblings, the most ambitious female maneuvers herself into an influential position, and

the most ruthless or physically strong male becomes head of household.

Beyond the family, the urge to run the show affects the community, where local politicians, church leaders, those

owning or running local industries, and local organizations with a mission to change this or that get into the act. They

all want to r un the show. The established order runs along until an upstart appears, challenging the leadership and

suggesting change. In a local community, as with a family, the issue of who gets to run the show is often settled by

movement. A divorce in the family, children playing with playmates rather than siblings, a business selling out or

pulling up roots to move to another location, a politician losing an election moving to another community, or a church

group gathering where they will feel less resentment. The young leave rural areas where the established order resist

change, moving to the cities where they hope to find kindred minds. Businesses justify changing their locations or

employment mix on the need to make profits, when this is seldom the real reason for their actions.

On a national level change is dealt with by forming political parties or more often by movement that is not recognized

for what it is. Change on the national level is seldom effected by a single individual, but require revolutions or

rebellions invariably led by individuals. Revolutions are often quiet, such as the communications revolution taking

place today with the Internet, but nonetheless effect a sea change. Where movement frequently settles challenges

within the family, and is often the way out in local community challenges, on a national level movement is difficult to

effect. One must move out of the country to escape, and thus issues remain contentious until change slowly occurs and

an equilibrium is again established - the established order. Nevertheless, movement is possible.

Increasingly, the Earth is becoming a single society, one world. News is international, the polluting practices of one

country affect a neighboring country, war in one draws others into the fray, and famine in one causes migration across

borders into others. The restless peace in any given country is disrupted with change, and in a shrinking world, change

occurs more and more frequently. Where movement is the solution of choice in family or local or even national

challenges, in a world wide society, there is nowhere to move. Thus change is often resisted by grim refusal to budge

or a rush to isolationist practices. But unless a country seals the borders and governs like a dictatorship, these solutions

cannot last. In a shrinking world, a press toward a world government, a single established order, is inevitable.

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ZetaTalk: TWA 800

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Note: written Aug 15, 1996.

Unlike the usual terrorists, who quickly claim responsibility and vie for the spotlight, the New World Order crowd

does not want to be known for the havoc they wreak. Where it is suspected that they had a hand in the Oklahoma City

bombing, and that overreaction at Waco and other such standoffs are an excuse to increase the use of strong arm

tactics, few know that the Unibomber was also an arm of the New World Order crowd who used and even focused his

fanaticism to their ends. This crowd wants martial law imposed, as soon as possible, and scientific research and

literacy and the free flow of information stopped also as these things threatens their sense of control over mankind. The

New World Order crowd does not carry cards, or attend regular meetings, or even necessarily know about one another.

They bond because of a mutual mind set, a common cause, and their efforts blend and assist one another without their

even knowing of one another.

Thus, those in the FBI who knew of the Unibomber and looked the other way for decades were not involved in the

Oklahoma City bombing, and those in the military who set and unleashed the bomb that tore a building and many lives

apart in Oklahoma are not aware of their comrades who shot down the TWA plane into the ocean off the New York

harbor. This group is neither the FBI or the US Military, but is nonetheless as deadly and impervious. Just as the black

helicopters that plague contactees and UFOlogists are not under military control, many weapons are in the hands of

terrorists of many persuasions. The plane was exploded in an instant with a high powered ballistic, so fast and

soundless that none on the plane were aware of its approach. When and if the black box from the plane is recovered, it

will give no clues, as the pilots were clueless until the explosion, which came from outside the plane and outside of

their view.

Unlike the Unibomber, who lasted for decades though known to the FBI, this group will come to swift justice. The

justice meted out in non-public trials will be swift and brutal. The secret government, known as MJ12, can be brutal as

many contactees know. This brutality is no longer aimed toward those who are enthusiastic about the alien presence, as

in fact this mistreatment of contactees has come to a complete stop. Per our agreement with MJ12 they have access to

space ship travel and the cloaking from view that goes with this. They also have access to our unlimited ability to

probe men's minds, should they ask for our assistance in this matter. The mechanism used by MJ12, the military

intelligence units, have not lost their skill or nerve, and it is this the perpetrators of the TWA explosion had to face and could not escape. They received not merely death, but a tortured death, and this was known to their cohorts, who

will had to watch, so as to suppress this type of activity in the future.

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ZetaTalk: Swissair 111

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ZetaTalk: Swissair 111

Note: written Sep 15, 1998.

The long silence after Swissair 111 exploded, in what had to be a bomb, struck the public as more curious than the fact

of a bombing itself. Swissair has a well deserved reputation as one of the safest air lines. How then would a bomb be

planted, and why the odd profile, where the plane was in trouble for several minutes before exploding? Airport

security, which includes inspecting the maintenance crews, is geared toward the average nut case trying to carry a

suspicious package. Scanning devices, watching for body language or suspicious behavior of the passengers or crew,

cover all but a small percentage of means and ways. Just as few homes can be guarded against the professional,

airlines cannot guard against professionals, and it was a professional job.

Closely guarded individuals are vulnerable when traveling, and often use public transportation to lessen their risk.

Planes can be shot out of the air, so placing oneself on a crowded plane with children, innocent children, often acts as

a type of human bodyguard. This ploy works when one is trying to avoid being hit by those of good conscience, but

does not work when the assassins are hardened and cold. Several individuals on this plane, unknown to the public but

carrying secrets they had been threatening to reveal, were targeted. Speculation runs high, as the plane carried UN

personnel, wealthy Arabs, and government agents. None of these were the targets, but a little known group of

financiers, who were threatening to reveal information that would shake confidence in the financial giants of the world.

In failing markets, to utter these truths, when one is in a position to know these truths, is equivalent to signing a death

warrant.

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ZetaTalk: Year 2000

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ZetaTalk: Year 2000

Dated: March 15, 1999

Year 2000 is like the Wizard of Oz behind the curtain. A lot of noise, a lot of banging around and innuendo, with no

punch behind it. Mankind has been told that changes will occur on the millennium, totally disrupting their lives. Trains

won't run, the refrigerator will turn off, food will melt, planes falling from the sky, bank teller machines refusing to

recognize cards. None of this is true. The average person is unaware of computer programs and how they are

structured. If you were to talk about building chairs and tables and you described how the fourth leg was going to

dissolve from under every table at the Year 2000, people would laugh. But if you describe a situation where computer

programs are going to malfunction, they take it seriously, especially if they hear this from a number of sources and this

is not disputed.

Bureaucracies are infamous for being like a lumbering elephant, sluggish and unable to maneuver when changes come

their way. They establish themselves with a set of circumstances, they write procedures that deal with these

circumstances, and when change comes they make these procedures more complicated and cumbersome. All this

works well when the sun rises and sets and crops are harvested and babies are born and old folks die, and life goes on

much the same. The least concern of any bureaucracy is totally renovating itself - they resist change. Budgets are

always slim, and the first thing that gets cut is any large computer system revamping as this is expensive which would

mean that salary increases can’t be made, one’s brother-in-law can’t be hired, and that benefits may need to be

trimmed. This creates all manner of uproar so is put off. Now it can no longer be put off. If one does not think this is

how bureaucrats think, they should just become a fly on the wall in the coffee rooms. Indeed, they know full well that

by creating a crisis they will get an infusion of money that otherwise would have been taken from their salaries and

benefits and additional jobs such as aids and secretaries, all the perks that they enjoy, would be cut. This is to some

degree deliberately planned to create a crisis, because new moneys are made available then. View this with some

cynicism, as it is justified in this situation.

Dated: December 15, 1999

Going into 1999, there were two opposing forces trying to influence Y2K. One group wished to use the possible

outages and panic as an excuse to impose martial law. This same group has used, in the past, such mechanisms as the

outrage over the Oklahoma City bombing and the crash of TWA800 to cry "terrorist" and attempt to set this process in

motion. They failed, as terrorists were not the perpetrators, and those in the know within the government allowed to

truth to peek through to the public so that martial law could not be forced upon an ignorant public. This opposing

force, which wishes the populace to be empowered to help themselves as the pole shift approaches, not shackled by

martial law tactics, has the upper hand as we approach the millennium eve. The battles that have occurred during 1999

were not visible to the masses, but were intense and grueling. There were stories of US military forces practicing riot

control, stocking up, and lining up local militias to assist. None of these scenarios will occur, though local free lance forces may attempt to impose martial law in their locale by sabotaging utilities or staging riots and pointing the finger

at imaginary terrorists.

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ZetaTalk: Other Explanations

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ZetaTalk: Survivor

Note: written Sep 15, 2001

The Survivor show is a brainchild of the major TV networks, in response to a request floated out to them from the

establishment to mentally prepare the populace for drastic changes that would challenge their mind-set and ability to

survive. How could such a request be made, to major media networks, and not be discussed broadly in the news? The

manner in which the establishment influences the media - which includes TV, radio, movies, magazines, and

newspaper articles - is not bold-faced and with accreditation. It is subtle, passed from a high level government official

to a high level executive, both of whom could be expected to keep their mouths tightly zipped. Thus requested, the

executive has a brain-storming session, and leans in the direction of the request during the ideas that are laid forth. The

staff then thinks this their idea, and promotes it all the more heavily because of this. Their idea should be a success!

The basis of the Survivor show, as well as movies showing various Earth-threatening situations such as volcanoes or

meteors or asteroid, is to numb the populace to such scenarios. Think of the horrors the populace encounters regularly

- tornadoes, hurricanes, floods, cancer, child kidnappings, automobile wrecks that leave the survivors maimed. When

such horrors are discussed over coffee break or at the bar, they are treated as something that cannot be avoided, cannot

be planned for, but just must be borne. By displaying such situations as Earth threatening disasters or bare-bones

survival situations where a member of the group must be ejected so the rest can survive, the populace is being asked

to consider such dire situations, and have the likelihood be accepted, and to become numb.

Take a look at old TV series, old movies, and magazine articles that appears some 20-30 years ago. Do you see such

scenarios? What changed? The reality of the inbound 12th Planet, the likely pole shift, and the fact that the elite have

realized the cannot escape Earth, but must live here with the masses, through this and afterwards!

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ZetaTalk: Self Sufficient

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Note: written Apr 15, 1999.

The Year 2000 crisis is also a paper dragon, one of many being used by the establishment to distract the populace from

the real danger. Many such distractions, such as the Presidential impeachment, are simply to draw people away from

the real concerns. Some disasters during the Year 2000 crisis will prove to be almost entirely man-made and could

have been prevented. They have been seeded. Not enough to cause terrible disasters, but enough to put some weight

behind the message so that people will start to take these kind of warnings seriously. The message is to rely on the self.

What if the grid were to be down? What if the stores were to be empty? Start to think. They are trying to get the

populace used to these kind of thoughts. Some of the difficulty with eating beef, some of the scares like mad cow

disease and e-coli, are designed to force people to turn away from a high meat diet and return to a vegetable based

diet, which is of course more efficient. Why feed the cow when you can feed yourself. You really don't need the

protein that you're stuffing into your mouths. Look at the Orient, where they make do with very little, a tad of fish in

the rice.

The populace is being manipulated in many ways to become more self reliant. The faster they move in that direction,

the more honest the government will be with them. Those of good heart in the government cannot tell the populace the

bad news, as the arguments about what to do with panic are too shrill. But if the populace is preparing, if they are

gardening and are prepared to take the bad news, those in the government who want to warn people will bravely step

forth and begin to give it give these warnings to the populace. There are those in the government that agonize over the

games that are being played, who cannot sleep at night and find it hard to live with themselves. But unless the populace

is prepared to help itself, unless an alternative to panic exists, the games will go on. The basis for a lack of panic is the

sense that there is an alternative, that the populace is preparing to be self sufficient.

There will be no security blanket that the populace can rely upon, so self reliance must be the rule. The panic that will settle into governments as the time approaches, when each individual will be dealing with their own personal panic and

anxieties, is completely unpredictable. It may run in all manner of directions. The movies that have been put out of

late, where asteroids are falling and a calm prevails, and the government is like a rock of logic and quietly empties

towns or flies people up to blow up asteroids, is so far from the truth as to be ludicrous. You will have your military

running down the halls and bumping into each other; leaving their posts, turning guns on themselves and others. It is

totally unpredictable. What will a frightened animal do when cornered? Well, your entire government and

bureaucracies will turn into that in the last few months. So the populace should not look to them, but rather look to

themselves.

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ZetaTalk: High Tech

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Note: written Jan 15, 2001

Survivors will find that they have a mix of experiences. This will range from people being plunged into what is

essentially a Third World existence - straw and mud, eating what you can catch and kill, and hoping to cook it well

enough not to get ill - to being very high tech in communities that are established with enough money and expertise

and skill to have banks of batteries, radios and antennas, windmills and generators driven by gasoline or something

that can be burned, and food stocks. So there will be a wide range of survival communities shortly after the shift.

However, this will change over time. Those communities that find themselves scratching in the dirt and living a most

primitive life may find, if they are spiritually of the right nature, being Service-to-Other, that they encounter people

who are odd looking - seem to be bald and not wish to linger and have a conversation, but drop things off. What’s

this? It appears to be a battery. What’s that? It appears to be a sack of food or seed. One thing leads to the next, and

after awhile these mute, bald neighbors will be interacting regularly and these human survivors will find they are living

a very high tech existence with remarkable neighbors. They will accept this because desperation fosters acceptance of

solutions.

The high tech communities of humans, who in many cases will be enclaves of the rich, who have used their wealth and

power to carve out an area whose perimeter they can protect with the military which will become mercenaries to the

rich in such situations, will find they do not get this type of assistance. What happens in these communities, then, when the stores run out, when there’s no more fuel to run the generator, when there’s no more bags of food and canned

goods to feed the community? Arguments break out. The mercenaries are hardly going to take orders from the idle rich

when they have no power or authority and can’t supply them with money or goods or anything of value. These

pampered rich people will be slaughtered, and sometimes in unpleasant ways, by their angry mercenaries, who in many

cases have thug tendencies and enjoy cruel games. So now we have gangs, chewing down everything they can get their

hands on and then going on the loose after there is nothing more to eat. These types of people are not prone to plan and

work with each other, so growing crops and gardens and the like is the least of their thoughts, but looting is. But when

they go on the loose, they will in fact be turned away from enclaves of good hearted people, in the many ways we are

able to deflect knowledge and attention. We can be in the room with you, and you don’t see us. Likewise, a gang of

thugs can pass by a good-hearted survival community and not see it, because we have prevented them from seeing it.

So these gangs of thugs will die out, and the enclaves of the wealthy will become true hell-holes, something they don’t

anticipate.

Survival communities of good-hearted folk will become high tech, due to interactions with aliens who have a

technology many thousands of times superior to the technology that your human cultures now enjoy. But it will not be

the technology of Homo Sapiens today. It will be better than that.

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ZetaTalk: Characteristics

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Note: written Jan 15, 2001

During the Transformation, groups of humans will not be separated entirely by orientation at first. This is due to the

mix of orientations in human society today, done deliberately to facilitate 3rd Density choices among humans who

must decide their orientation - Service-to-Self or Service-to-Others. Often, a highly Service-to-Self entity is placed to

reincarnate into the arms of highly Service-to-Other parents, so that both can become familiar with their future

situation, where clear polarizing of the orientations will occur. In 4th Density spiritual existence, where the

orientations are separated, there is no mix except during those occasions where an engagement is agreed upon, and

then those in the Service-to-Other meet highly Service-to-Self oriented entities, and vice versa. Thus, it is often

deemed an education, a preparation, to mix these entities together in family or small communities, during 3rd Density

life just prior to a Transformation.

Thus, during the cataclysms, many highly Service-to-Other families or small communities may find they have a highly

Service-to-Self child among them, or someone of this orientation who is physically dependent upon them in some way.

Do they cast these young children or dependents aside, in order to become a fully Service-to-Other group? This is in

conflict with the nature of those in the Service-to-Other, especially as there can be no certainty that the child or

dependent person has truly decided on a Service-to-Self path. What if they are undecided, dithering, and abandonment

would push them in the wrong direction? The Service-to-Other human wants to establish a tone of hope and caring, for

all in the group. Should these individuals be punished, during the Aftertime, living in desperate circumstances without

help from high tech hybrid communities, only because they are caring for some who are not fully Service-to-Other?

There are rules visitors and hybrid communities are under, set by the Council of Worlds to ensure that the

Transformation proceeds apace and is not delayed unnecessarily. The line where visitors or a community of hybrids

can assist their human neighbors, or not, is determined by who controls the community of humans. We will give

examples.

If the community is led of a consensus of the adults, the majority of whom are Service-to-Other, assistance can

be given. This community might include some highly self-focused adults, perhaps with young children whom

those in the Service-to-Other orientation feel responsible for, and thus tolerate the adults parents for the sake of

the children. However, these self-focused adults do not rule, or even influence, the course of affairs in the

community.

If the community is so mixed as to have as its leadership undecided adults, who are as prone to listen to self-

focused arguments as arguments with a strong Service-to-Other motive, they cannot be given assistance. This

line is drawn as these communities would then gain strength, which would surely be misused by those in the

Service-to-Self in the group, who would take any high tech assistance to further their power over others. Worse

yet, this high tech advantage would be used to conquer other groups of humans.

After the Transformation, those in the Service-to-Self do have high tech advantage, but they are strictly quarantined

from those in the Service-to-Others. This is controlled by the Council of Worlds, and prevents those in the Service-to-

Self from conquering those they would make as their slaves. But during the Transformation process, where mixing can

occur and frequently does occur, such a strict separation is not possible. Thus, where leadership is not under a Service-to-Other motive, these communities cannot have a technological advantage outside of that currently achieved in human

society.

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ZetaTalk: Government

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Note: written during the October 19, 2002 Live ZetaTalk IRC Session.

The Aftertime will find most of mankind in a dearth of government directives. Even small towns, governed by mayors

well known on the city streets to all, and traveling bands governed by chieftains, will feel the lack. Insanity, depression,

loss of life and confusion will remove the firm hand so familiar from governing. Families will look to their elders, the

family man, the religious leader, and find them all staring, shaking their heads, and unable to speak. In these situations,

leadership arises from the needy, natural leaders emerging. Often they are children, to whom most of life is startling

and strange, the unfamiliar presented almost daily. To the child, this is more an adventure, an opportunity to act

without constant parental admonitions. They will make suggestions, and be allowed to proceed, and often lead their

dazed and depressed parents and elders about like rag dolls.

Beyond the children, who will be inventive and energetic in the main, women will assume command by doing daily

chores. It is often said that men, who have single tasks in society, suffer when retiring, but women, who had the many

tasks keeping the household going, are without retirement. Thus, women see what to do with their time, and proceed,

and being useful live longer and in greater health. In like manner, after the shift, women will wash and clean, gather

and cook a meal, and thus be looked upon as someone who can direct activities. When the depression clears, and

survivors begin looking about them, determining if they should seek out a government rep or make a report, perhaps

seek help from their government, a different conclusion will arise. Each initiating, others observing and offering to

help, and sharing, has taken place. This is the Service-to-Other society of your future, and once established by

survivor groups, should not be supplanted by ego driven directive by the power hungry. Tell them to sit back down and

fall silent, as you did so much better before they found their tongue.

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ZetaTalk: Next 3 1/2 Years

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Note: written Sep 15, 1999.

As we have predicted in 1995, there will be increasing crop shortages to the point where commercial crops will fail for

the next 3 years running. Not in 1999 but during the 3 years following, going into the coming pole shift [Note: see 2003

Date explanation]. This is already occurring around the world, where it is noted that this or that crop has failed. This does not get the news coverage it should, on what this means for starvation and food shortages, which are rarely mentioned.

Everyone should anticipate that the price of food is going to skyrocket, shortages will occur, and thus they should

prepare to grow their own - indoor gardening, fish tanks, eating insects - whatever means they can achieve and plan for

the long haul. Learn how to feed yourself.

Increased weather problems will occur. Massive tornadoes such as recently tore through Oklahoma will not go away,

but will be on the increase and will occur in places that do not experience such tornadoes. Hurricanes will be no more

fierce than they are today, but will occur in places not used to hurricanes force winds. Not just Japan and the East

Coast of the US and Bangladesh, but other places, perhaps the west coast of Africa, places that do not expect

hurricanes blasting inland.

Likewise earthquakes will up-tick. During the last few years they have become more frequent, but they became so tiny

during the lull when the deep plates were locking down, so the increase in frequency was not noticed. Now the

increase in frequency will be noted, as the ricochet effect is going to mean that when there is a major earthquake, there

will be a hiccuping effect around the world for some time, and these are going to increase in Richter scale in any case.

Therefore structures that have not been quakeproofed, in cities that do not expect to experience quakes, are going to

drop and shatter. What happened in Turkey is going to become so common that the populace will barely notice, just as

today they have almost become immune to stories about bad weather. It’s almost become the norm.

What will all this mean? We have predicted that people will begin to migrate. If things are untenable where they are,

they will roam, or try to, and there will be increased blocking at the borders. Likewise, job instability will occur.

People will move to the barter system and depend less on the government for handouts, which is all to the good.

Sickness will slightly increase from where it is today. There is a lot of illness now because people who are already

unstable are unable to take the turmoil caused by the increased emanations from the Earth. Some of them have simply

sensed what is coming and have decided to die. This is true of animals as well as humans. Sickness will increase, but

not to the point where it is going to get exponentially worse.

There will be some bank failures. This is going to be greatly shored up on an artificial basis. Money, after all, can be

printed, and the governments of the world are hysterically afraid of panic in the populace, and will do anything they

can to keep confidence up and the paper money worth something, all the way to the end if they can. But nevertheless,

this should not be distracting or blinding the populace. Look at what is actually happening - the food, the weather, the

safety, the honesty in the messages that are being put forth. The populace should start exploring the site that our

emissary, Nancy, and so very many of her friends have put together to help every man help themselves. This does not

require money, this simply requires a desire to get serious. And we recommend that everyone do this, rich or poor.

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ZetaTalk: During 2000

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Dated January 12, 2000, as relayed on the Sightings broadcast

Out predictions for the forthcoming year do not differ greatly from what we have stated in the past. This is the year

when serious crop failures will start. As we stated in 1995, the weather confuses commercial crops, not just because of

severe and intractable drought but because of the drought and deluge swings. Deluges can be devastating, as the recent

reports coming out of a drowning Central America and their lost crops relay. Seeds are washed out of the ground, or

rotted in the ground. Likewise, as we stated in 1995, very warm winter weather can confuse crops. They begin their

growth cycle before they should and thus are frozen out when winter returns. And likewise there will increasing be

very cold summers. This is a new angle - very cold summers. This has been relayed in the past, in ancient reports of

what the Chinese called a world cycle, meaning the approach of another pole shift, where snow fell in summer. This

type of weather change, which will shock the weathermen who are trying to explain events in terms of Global

Warming, will begin.

We have predicted there will in essence be a complete crop failure for the 3 years going into the Spring of 2003 [Note:

see 2003 Date explanation]. This means the years of 2000, 2001, and 2002 will find such devastation to commercial crops that the stores set aside by the government for such disasters will be depleted greatly. These stores are intended to help

those who have been ravaged by hurricanes or to rescue some country devastated by drought or locust swarms. Those

types of rescues overseas are not being done anymore by the US, the doors quietly shut, so that it seems to the

populace in the US that they are fine. They are not fine. Our advice continues to be to have family gardens and to rely

on oneself. What other types of changes might be experienced this coming year?

We mentioned a year ago that tornadoes would be experienced in areas that do not experience such tornadoes, and

more devastating tornadoes would be experienced. This likewise unfolded this past year, and this trend will increase to

the point where people will be just numbed by the size and fury of the tornadoes that will not only go through tornado

alley in the US but also in other places in the world which simply don’t think in terms of needing to protect themselves

from such swirling, forceful winds. This will continue to be couched in terms of Global Warming, but increasingly

this explanation will be questioned. Why has there been such a rapid upswing? How can one account for a chemical

change in the upper atmosphere that would do such a thing? Why is devastating cold sweeping down on places such as

India if Global Warming is the explanation? Where is this coming from? Of course it is coming from volcanic

upheaval under oceans that are causing the El Nino effect to continue, even though it is being downplayed, to the point

where the air over the oceans is being dragged about and warmed and cooled.

We also predict, as we did last year, that there will be high tides. Not tsunamis, following earthquakes, but unusual

high tides. We also predict that there will begin to be reports of whirlpools in the oceans that will startle those who

have never seen such a thing in the oceans. Likewise, as we have predicted in the past, there will be increasing booms

and flashes, which are caused by underwater earthquakes that cause heaving in the oceans such that the air over the

dropping water claps. This can happen over land, also. We predict that this will increase to the point where this is

discussed in the coffee rooms and bars of many cities, even though it doesn’t get media coverage.

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ZetaTalk: During 2001

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Note: written Feb 15, 2001

An overall phrase to describe 2001 will be that things are getting shaky. Earthquakes increasing in frequency and

intensity, and storm damage continues so that insurance companies will begin to falter and fail if not bolstered by

government intervention. The weather is becoming more erratic so that any attempt to pretend that crop shortages are

not occurring, worldwide, is no longer possible. Food prices will rise or there will be shortages in the stores, unless

governments step in with price freezes and forced disbursal of goods to the populace. Starvation, already occurring in

many countries, will increase, but the starving will have less of a voice as time goes on, and be increasingly ignored.

Economic impacts are beginning to bump into each other, one causing the other, so that the economic result is beyond

a recession and threatening to become a worldwide depression. The economic drain from disasters affects individuals

and their ability to work, villages and cities and their ability to provide services, and corporations that are dependent

upon customers. Disasters can result in increased opportunity, but only if a source of aid is available, and when aid is

withdrawn, or not provided, disasters become an economic drain. Aid between countries is being cut off, with little

fanfare in the donor countries so the populace will not become alarmed. Businesses dependent upon their investments

in Third World countries will then fail, once again creating a shaky economic environment.

When the response of a given government is less than what the populace has come to expect, there will be protests or

riots, depending upon the culture. Strong arm tactics will increase, jailing the protesters and creating curfews or travel

restrictions. Since a common tactic to distract a restless populace is an outside threat, governments of many countries

will saber-rattle, pointing the finger elsewhere and making threats and demands. This will not lead to war, as none of

these countries would gain by war, in that the whole world is affected by the economic and crop disasters. There is no

prize. So the demands made, one country upon another, to correct what is seen as a cause elsewhere, will be loud, but

not followed by actions other than those of a paper dragon variety - all noise, but no substance.

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ZetaTalk: During 2002

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ZetaTalk: During 2002

Note: written Oct 15, 2001

The calendar years leading into the pole shift year will see the culmination of many trends, and a few new trends.

Erratic weather causing droughts and deluges and temperature swings affect commercial crops and food relied upon by

hunter-gathering groups alike, so distress from weather created disasters and food shortages will increase, as will the

resulting anger of governed populaces against their ineffectual governments and migrations of peoples attempting to

find a better place. These have been existing trends, not new. Governments react to problems placed before them that

they cannot solve by pointing the finger outside their borders, as a threatened country supports its leadership and fears

to undermine it during such times. Using outside threats, so that many countries point fingers at each other, can be

expected to increase during 2002. This likewise is not a new trend going into the pole shift. Increasing quakes and

volcanic eruptions, as well as high tides and ocean whirlpools, will get little media attention so as not to alarm an

already uneasy populace, but will nevertheless occur. These and heating of the Earth from the core, causing melting

polar ice and glaciers, is not new but an existing trend.

We have predicted that in the year prior to the shift that satellites will fail, consistently. Earthquake and volcano

activity will steadily increase, on a somewhat linear scale. Earthquakes and volcanoes are reacting to the heating up

and activity in the core, which has a great deal of drag in that there is a large amount of matter to heat up and

increasing motion in this is not that easy, the core being heavy matter and inclined to hug itself closely. Thus, the

increasing approach of the 12th Planet will be less noticeable on Earth than would be expected, when looking at the

rapidly diminishing distance. However, should one run statistics on the changes, one would see other than lineal

changes overall. It is simply that the core must increase substantially in its temperature or motion for a small increase evident on the crust. This is not lineal, and the crust is pushed outward when increased heat and swirling about occur,

so is less subject to rubbing one plate against another and there are more places where magma can ooze out in the deep

ocean rifts.

Thus, there will be increases, as there will be increasing crop shortages, but the most noticeable effect to mankind will be the sociological changes, during 2002. The establishment will become guarded, start to falter in their explanation for

the changes, and start to enclose themselves into enclaves safe from the populace. New leadership, from the masses so

to speak, will arise, filling the void. These will be noticed, and much the talk, while the weird weather and increasing

quakes will be scarcely noticed. So these trends are what will be new, in 2002, as a trend leading into the pole shift.

increasing polarization by orientation into either Service-to-Other or Service-to-Self groups, to the point of

being distinct and noticeable.

safe haven offerings by Service-to-Self groups intent on garnering slaves and expertise from those desperate

from recent disasters or unemployment.

steps to actually prepare for the coming troubled times by individuals who have formerly only mulled over the

earth changes and government responses.

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ZetaTalk: During 2003

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Note: written during the Jan 7, 2003 Live ZetaTalk IRC Session.

All trends leading up to 2003 will of course continue, not only unabated but exacerbated. This includes weird and wild

weather out of season and extreme, increasing quakes in both frequency and Richter, and increasing illness both from

known and familiar sources and microbes migrating to new locates. Saber ratting among governments wanting their

populace to quiet their demands within the country will continue, and this includes both the US approach to IRAQ and

the N. Korean approach to the US. The populace that fears war or attack tends to back the leaders, quiet their demands,

and thus is more passive and malleable by the governing establishment. Starvation will continue to quietly increase,

not mentioned in the media except by accident in those countries that are normally expected to react and rescue.

Islands will go under the waves, the drown populace silenced and the media told to do likewise. Tides will be

inordinately unpredictable, high, flowing into city streets unlike ever before, but will be called a storm surge to place it into an ordinary concept, even if no storm exists. So what will be new, during this time, the few months in 2003 [Note:

see 2003 Date explanation] going into the shift? We have mentioned that increasingly personal preparations will be made, not so much new as taking expression where almost no one knows of someone not personally preparing to escape into

the hills, to be a survivalist, to be more self sufficient. These individuals, normally looked upon as a bit kooky, will not

receive the ridicule they have in the past, simply because the times have become so uncertain, that such action is now

seen as almost insightful, bold, and wise.

Where we have predicted increasing quakes, imploding cities, this will reach the point during the months leading into

the shift, in 2003, of leveling cities, demolishing them, due not only to quakes but the after effects such as fire and

looting. Look to the WTC disaster, where the burning material polluted and poisoned the surrounding area, such that

now many humans are sickened if they were not protected with masks during this time. Devastated cities, shaky and

unsafe, about to collapse under an aftershock, or another adjustment in the ground in the case of imploding cities in

areas under a stretch, will be deemed unsafe so the residents cannnot return to their lives there. Now what? Where will

they go? It will be in many cases winter, cold, or certainly not the balmy summer that one would expect a tent city to

be erected in. Sudden barracks? Transport to other cities? Refugee problems in Bosnia and other war torn areas in the

past requires time to erect refugee camps to house the desperate. Take a city, and move it outside its boundaries, and you have a governmental nightmare. This is likely to result in media blackouts, as quickly as possible after the disaster.

Military commandeering of suburban housing such that all house several families, sharing the supplies and food, at

gunpoint. Martial Law to be enacted at least in local areas, if need be.

At the same time, increasing information flow about the inbound planet, the hypothesis of a coming pole shift, will be

occurring. As surprising as it seems, those in government, in all governments, are not altogether evil and thinking only of themselves as the Bush Administration would give evidence of. These are a few usurpers at the top, not the

embodiment of the government in totality. In the media too, there will be those who simply use the slightest crack to

announce bad news, and theories, and safety steps, waving their hands in the air and professing momentary insanity

and emotional moments to explain their actions. Once out, such broadcasts cannot be taken back, and pile on each

other, creating an information repository circulating among the populace that creates the impression of something being

withheld by the establishment. As with all press briefings, officials not addressing the issues are telling a story as much as if they did address the issues. Avoidance says something. Why is the issue being avoided. Why is the official being evasive. Why are several officials, caught in different circumstances, being evasive on the same issue? This virtually

screams that a cover-up is being foisted on the public.

And then the riots start. Riots will be suppressed in the name of terrorism, controlling looting and recovering victims

after a natural disaster, and keeping the peace. Where the establishment is being pressed for answers, they will have no

comment because they are busy, trying to effect rescue and safety and the like. Thus, expect any government not being forthcoming to its populace to be increasingly unavailable, no comment. When rotation stoppage comes, there will be